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    Cops shoot at Minivan full of kids ages 6-14 after a traffic stop with their mother

    Cops shoot at Minivan full of kids ages 6-14 after a traffic stop with their mother

    Posted by David French On November 16, 2013 0 Comment

    A mother is facing felony charges and two state police officers are under investigation after a traffic stop escalated into a wild scene involving broken glass, gunfire and a high speed chase.





    A simple traffic stop turned into a wild scene with a 14-year-old rushing a state cop, a high-speed chase and another officer firing at a fleeing minivan full of kids.

    Now the driver and her son are facing charges while New Mexico State Police are investigating the officers involved.

    It started as a routine stop but once both parties started handling this poorly, those with the authority and guns took it too far. The driver is not innocent by any means, with multiple traffic laws being broken but the actions of the police in Taos New Mexico are outrageous. After the second time the van was pulled over, back up should have been called and already there to prevent any more issues rather than one cop try to be a super trooper.

    Then after the driver started to resist and the 14 year old son came to the aide of his mother before backup arrived still, don’t you think point a tazer at a teen was a little much?

    Or how about bashing in the windows like they’re murderers?

    Was firing at the back of the minivan too much?

    After all there were children as young as 6 in the vehicle.

    The issue is with the driver and possibly the teenage son, the police endangered lives of innocent people because it was easier than actually doing there job correctly in the first place.

    Police as seen as some of the most hostile governmental pawns ever known, when pulling someone over who is sensing your gestapo presence you have to act accordingly.

    Tend to the situation not your power tripping ego officers.

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    [Watch] Out of Control Cops Shoot at Van Full of Children, Beat Windows With Batons

    Posted by: Rick Wells
    Posted date: November 16, 2013
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    Recently released video of a Taos, NM police stop is raising some serious concerns regarding their State Police operations.

    The chain of events began when Tennessee resident Oriana Farrell was stopped by a New Mexico State Police officer on Highway 518 near Taos. The officer was attempting to ticket Ms. Farrell for speeding and had asked her to shut off her engine as he was returning to his cruiser. Not only did Ms. Farrell not shut off her engine, she drove away.

    The State Police officer then took off in pursuit, at which time Farrell once again pulled over. This time the officer opened the driver door and demanded that Farrell exit the vehicle. She resisted at first even though the officer is pulling on her to get her out. He advises her that she is already facing evading charges. She eventually complied. When the officer informed Farrell that she was being arrested she backs around the vehicle and climbs back into the driver seat.

    As a struggle was continuing in the effort to arrest Ms. Farrell, her children, including a 14-year-old son who had previously exited and returned, all got out of the van and joined in the exchange.

    The fourteen-year-old rushed the officer, which enabled Ms. Farrell to get back into the van. The teen then ran around to the passenger side and was able to shut the door behind him before the officer could get his taser to fire.

    At that time, video shows backup officers arriving and police start to beat the windows of the van with clubs. As this is taking place, Farrell begins to drive off, which results in shots being fired by an officer at the fleeing vehicle.

    A high-speed chase resulted and Farrell eventually pulled over at a motel where she and her son were arrested.

    Farrell was charged with five counts of abuse of a child, as well as aggravated fleeing an officer, resisting an officer, reckless driving and possession of drug paraphernalia. The son was charged with battery of an officer and resisting arrest.

    The State Children, Youth and Families Department took over custody of the other four children who range in age from six to eighteen years of age. The children were later placed in the care of local residents known to the family.

    I’m going to ask the question that you are probably wondering too , “Why is this one cop shooting at a van full of kids?” If he’s trying to kill the driver for resisting arrest, the penalties are pretty stiff in New Mexico. She should have robbed a bank.

    For me, the issue goes way beyond the woman, Oriana Ferrell, fleeing. As the police action relates to that, it appears to have been valid and justified up to the point where the backup arrived and the batons started swinging. That seems a bit over the top. Doesn’t anyone shoot out tires anymore?

    What is particularly troublesome is the shooting officer’s behavior.

    All involved are fortunate that he missed his target. If he had been able to hit the driver, it is quite likely that another passenger or two would have also been in the line of fire.

    He might have taken a cue from the other officers on the scene who were closer and not firing. Maybe there was a reason why they weren’t already shooting that should have crossed his mind.

    To make this an even more bizarre scenario, the fleeing Ferrell was charged with five counts of abuse of a child. I understand the whole “blame the victim” rationale that she caused him to fire by fleeing. Understanding the premise and agreeing with it is not necessarily the same thing. The officer is the one who endangered those children by firing his weapon at them.

    Farrell endangered others and her children through her reckless driving. If that is the basis for the charges, it is perfectly legitimate. Those were her deliberate acts.

    This is just more of the incredible mountain of evidence of the encroaching police state in America, where failing to stop or obey is a ground for the use of deadly force.

    The other officer, wailing away at the van with his baton, seems to be personally infuriated that this woman would dare to defy his orders. Its looks like he might be taking things a bit personally, which isn’t a positive trait in your police force.

    Trigger and stick happy cops like this give the good ones a bad name. How many properly enforced situations go unreported and are overshadowed by the few abusive ones such as this?

    The shooter should be looking for work which doesn’t involve carrying a firearm and under investigation for criminal misconduct. He stepped so far over the line, he’ll have to turn around to see it.



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    A Sheep No More

    The first time I saw this video, our jaws hit the floor. It all starts out with a speeding violation, and then it turns to hell. I had to watch it a couple times to just make sure what I saw… was actually what I saw. I don't think anyone would want to ever deal with the police after seeing this.

    What could have started and ended with a regular speeding ticket, got out of control so fast, you wont... believe your eyes. The mother get pulled over, and was told why (because she was speeding). As the cop walks away from the vehicle to write the ticket, he asks the mother in the minivan to turn off the vehicle. The exact opposite happened. The mom then puts the pedal to the floor and speeds away.

    The officer pulls her over again, walks back up to the driver side of the car and starts yelling to the mother pleading her to get out of the vehicle. It gets difficult to watch at that moment. The mother refuses to get out of the car. And the police officer becomes less than polite, physically attempting to remove the mother. This is all happening while the children are screaming.

    At that point, the 14-year-old son decides to get out of the car and walk over to the officer, but the officer reaches for his taser, making the teenager go back to his seat.

    The mother then pleads with the officer saying, “Sir I pulled back over, I didn’t run away from you! You see my children… I’m not doing anything wrong.” She finally agrees to get out of the car to talk to the officer.

    The officer then asks the mother to turn around and when it looks like she’s being arrested, that’s when it all turns to hell.

    She starts running away from the officer trying to get back into her car, the officer gets even more forceful. The children start screaming. The 14 year old gets up again and runs to aide his mother. The teenager pushes the officer, trying to defend his mom. You will also see another child step out of the vehicle trying to run to her mother, not causing any harm (unlike her older brother in the purple).

    After the short argument and the physical exchange, the boy and his mother get back in the car. And as the officer pulls out his taser aiming right at the child in the passenger seat, back up then arrives.

    This next part will make you absolutely freak out.

    Two police officers then bash the minivan’s windows in. You can hear the children screaming at the top of their lungs. The mother than reacts to all this and decides to drive off.

    And this happens:

    A 3rd officer then opens fire on the minivan filled with children.

    The story ends after a 4 minute high speed chase, and eventually gets pulled over for the 3rd time in front of a hotel. Her 14-year-old son is arrested, and so is she. The mother was charged for child abuse and fleeing from police. The son got charged with attacking a police officer.

    As for the officers, the state police department said the officers would be under investigation.

    A national outcry for Justice is what is needed here!
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    I do not see this as police tyranny. I think the officer was trying to shoot out the back tire.

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    WATCH: Cop goes ballistic on kids in minivan

    Have cops gone bonkers?

    The speeding mom refused to cooperate when police tried to arrest her.

    But what troopers did to the woman's kids will leave you stunned.
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    Cop shoots at minivan full of children

    Traffic stop leads to brawl with resisting mother

    Published: 8 hours ago

    Video at the Page Link:

    A shocking dashcam video shows the moment a New Mexico state trooper opened fire on a minivan with five children inside after a routine traffic stop for speeding.

    The New Mexico State Police have opened an investigation into the conduct of the troopers involved. The driver, Rihanna Ferrell, and her 14-year-old son are facing charges.

    New Mexico state trooper tries to arrest driver Rihanna Ferrell

    The confrontation began as a routine traffic stop near Taos, N.M., on Oct. 28.

    Ferrell was pulled over by police for going 71 miles-per-hour in a 55 miles-per-hour zone, according to KRQE-TV.

    Footage shows the officer walk up to the vehicle and begin speaking with her through the window.

    When the officer walks away, presumably to run the license and registration, Ferrell hits the gas pedal and drives off.

    The officer gives chase in his vehicle and Ferrell again pulls to the side of the road.

    When the officer goes to the car a second time, he orders her out of the vehicle.

    “Look, I’m going to ask you one more time to get out of the vehicle and then I’m going to pull you out, OK?” the officer said. “You’re already facing evading charges. You ran away from me.”

    “Sir, I pulled back over, I didn’t run away,” the woman said. “You see my children. I’m not doing anything wrong. I’m just trying to take them to the Rio Grande.”

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    Ferrell eventually exits the vehicle and gets into a physical confrontation with the officer while he tries to arrest her.

    The incident quickly escalates when the woman’s 14-year-old son exits the vehicle and begins tussling with the trooper. He runs back into the van when more police officers arrive on the scene.

    Ferrell's teenage son confronts police

    The arresting officer is then shown smashing a rear window with his baton, while the terrified children scream.

    Ferrell again begins to drive away as another cop fires several shots into the back of the minivan – emptying multiple rounds in the direction of the children.

    Ferrell leads the officers on a 10-minute chase before stopping in front of a hotel and turning herself in. Both the woman and her teenage son were arrested.

    Ferrell was charged with five counts of abuse of a child, aggravated fleeing an officer, resisting an officer, reckless driving and possession of drug paraphernalia, according to The Taos News. Her son was charged with battery of an officer.

    The officers involved have not yet been removed from active duty.

    The Taos News reported that New Mexico State Police said they found two marijuana pipes in the minivan.

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    'The Cop Should've Been Arrested': Judge Napolitano Analyzes Wild Traffic Stop

    FROM FOX AND FRIENDS //NOV 19 2013 // 10:30AM
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    Judge Andrew Napolitano stopped by Fox and Friends this morning to analyze the wild New Mexico traffic stop that has made national headlines. In the shocking dash cam video, a policeman can be seen firing at a fleeing minivan that contained a mother and her five children.

    Video at the Page Link:


    Prior to the shots being fired, the woman and her teenage son had argued and scuffled with the arresting officer, who had originally pulled the woman over for speeding.

    Napolitano said the question for prosecutors is going to be whether to pursue charges against the mother and boy or the police officers. He stated emphatically that the police officer who fired at the minivan had no right to use deadly force.

    "The law is that the police can't use deadly force unless deadly force has been used on them," said Napolitano, adding that clearly the teenage boy committed a felony by attempting to hit the policeman.

    "The woman was unarmed, the boy was unarmed. The police had no right to shoot," he said.

    Brian Kilmeade asked whether the police, in the heat of the moment, may have had a suspicion that there were guns in the car.

    "The 'what ifs' do not justify the use of deadly force. The police would have to know, not have a hunch but know, that there was a weapon in the car that could have been used on them," said Napolitano.

    He said the policeman who bashed in the minivan's window should also face charges.

    "[That] is a criminal act for which he should be prosecuted. He should have been arrested on the spot by his fellow cops. ... You're going to spray glass in the face of children for reasons that you can't explain!" he said.

    Watch the full discussion above.

    POSTED IN: // Oriana Ferrell // New Mexico


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    The New Mexico State Police officer who fired shots at a minivan full of children during a chaotic October traffic stop has been placed on administrative leave, an agency official said Thursday. . .
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    New Mexico officer in van shooting is fired

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    SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) - The New Mexico State Police officer who fired shots at a minivan full of children during a chaotic October traffic stop has been fired, a spokesman with the law enforcement agency said Friday.
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    Fired state police officer in Taos won’t get job back

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