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    Donald Trump advocates death penalty for drug dealers in rambling speech

    Donald Trump advocates death penalty for drug dealers in rambling speech

    Ben Jacobs in Moon, Pennsylvania
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    Sat 10 Mar 2018 22.11 ESTLast modified on Sat 10 Mar 2018 23.17 EST

    Donald Trump was on stage for 80 minutes and eventually mentioned Republican Rick Saccone, whose campaign he was in Pennsylvania to support.

    In a campaign stop three days before a crucial special election for Congress, Donald Trump advocated the death penalty for drug dealers in the course of an hour-long rambling campaign style speech where he bashed television anchors, unveiled his re-election slogan and discussed nuclear arms negotiations with North Korea. He also mentioned the Republican candidate whom he endorsed.

    Speaking to a crowd of supporters in a packed airplane hangar outside of Pittsburgh, Trump gave one of his trademark speeches including a rare imitation where he feigned what it would be like to act “presidential”.


    The event was held to support Republican Rick Saccone who is neck and neck with Democrat Conor Lamb in a congressional district that Trump won by over 20 points in the 2016 election. Trump praised Saccone saying “he knows things other people don’t know” and bashed the Democratic candidate as “Lamb the Sham”. He also discussed the physical attractiveness of both candidates. Trump said of the 33-year-old Lamb “I hear he’s nice looking, I think I’m better looking” and then followed up by saying Saccone “is handsome too”.



    But Trump spent most of his hour and 20 minutes on stage talking about almost every other topic under the sun. He confirmed reports that that he had been floating the idea of imposing a death penalty on drug dealers by a long discourse where he praised the criminal justice system in China. Trump noted China once had a problem with “the opium” that was “devastating” and went on to explain his bafflement that murderers were treated more harshly than drug dealers. “If someone goes and shoots somebody, kills somebody they get the death penalty,” said Trump. In contrast, he noted “a drug dealer will kill 2,000 to 5,000 people during the course of his life”.

    Trump acknowledged how controversial the concept was. “I don’t know if this country is ready but I think it’s a discussion we have to start thinking about.”


    It marked Trump’s most explicit public statements on the topic although he previously praised Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte who is leading a campaign of alleged extrajudicial killings against drug dealers and users.


    In the aftermath of the shock announcement that Trump would meet with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, he touched upon his relationship with the man he once publicly derided as “little Rocket Man.”

    Trump chided the crowd when they started go boo Kim, saying “we have to be very nice” ahead of the scheduled summit.



    Trump hails 'great relationship' with Philippines' Duterte

    He went to attack his predecessors for not meeting with Kim and said his meeting would be a great accomplishment and had forced concessions from “a man who is nuked up all over the place”. As Trump described it: “They announce they’re not sending any missiles up … I wouldn’t say Japan was thrilled with missiles flying over Japan.”

    He also said he deserved praise for the success of the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea. In Trump’s telling, South Korea’s President Moon Jae-in told him:

    “Without Donald Trump, the Olympics would have been a total failure.” He then opined: “It’s a little hard to sell tickets when you think you’re going to be nuked.”


    In addition to the coming special election, Trump looked back to the 2016 election where he derided a speech made by Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts – whom he called “Pocahontas” – on behalf of Hillary Clinton for being “so angry”. He also dwelled at length on his victory in the electoral college.


    Looking forward, Trump announced his 2020 campaign slogan would be “Keep America great” since he had already “made America great again”. He also took credit for a congressional special election win by Republican Karen Handel in a suburban district where Trump was deliberately kept away for fear of alienating moderate Republican voters.


    As Trump often does, he went on several tirades about the media. He derided NBC news host Chuck Todd as “a sleepy son of a bitch”, called CNN “fake as hell” and vented about a Wall Street Journal columnist, calling him “a Neanderthal”.


    But one unusual target of his ire was Ronald Reagan. The 40th president is a venerated figure among Republicans, but Trump criticized his predecessor as “not great on trade”.

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    It's a nice message to get out, the seriousness of dealing killer narcotics. But, I oppose the death penalty because it will be used on the wrong people like so many of our War on Drugs laws have been.
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    I support the Death Penalty for serious drug pushers, I support it for violent gang members and cartel, for schools shooters, for child rapists and all rapists, violent criminals, serial killers, terrorists, domestic terrorists for many of these vermin that walk the face of this Earth.

    There are too many, they are killing innocent people and we cannot afford to warehouse them all for 50 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's a nice message to get out, the seriousness of dealing killer narcotics. But, I oppose the death penalty because it will be used on the wrong people like so many of our War on Drugs laws have been.
    Do you support the death penalty for 1st degree murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Do you support the death penalty for 1st degree murder?
    No, I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, I don't.


    I knew you floated to the left on most social issues, but I never imagined you would be opposed to capital punishment for someone who would commit first degree murder. Oh well, each to their own.

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    n. although it varies from state to state, it is generally a killing which is deliberate and premeditated(planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a scheme), in conjunction with felonies such asrape, burglary, arson, involving multiple deaths, the killing of certain types of people (such as a child,a police officer, a prison guard, a fellow prisoner), or with certain weapons, particularly a gun. Thespecific criteria for first degree murder are established by statute in each state and by the UnitedStates Code in federal prosecutions. It is distinguished from second degree murder in whichpremeditation is usually absent, and from manslaughter which lacks premeditation and suggests thatat most there was intent to harm rather than to kill. (See: murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, felony murder doctrine)

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    MW wrote:

    I knew you floated to the left on most social issues, but I never imagined you would be opposed to capital punishment for someone who would commit first degree murder. Oh well, each to their own.
    Yeah, I've opposed the death penalty since I was 12 and haven't seen, heard or read anything since to change my mind.
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