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Footage Of Ukrainian Helicopters Firing On Own Checkpoint Raises Questions

16 soldiers killed in deadly raid blamed on armed militias



by Steve Watson | May 23, 2014

Insider footage of Ukrainian troops taking cover from their own helicopter forces has emerged, raising questions over the deaths of 16 troops at a checkpoint in the Donetsk Region Thursday. The video, presumably shot by Ukrainian soldiers, shows a group of uniformed soldiers wearing Ukrainian army insignia, in addition to other men dressed in normal clothing, taking cover behind an army vehicle.



Following a huge explosion and gunfire, the soldiers are heard discussing whether they should retreat, according to a report by RT. Then two helicopter gunships approach the scene and begin to fire at the burning checkpoint.

A translation in the report notes that the man filming the scene asks “What are their doing? Are they ours?”
“Who the f*** else?” another soldier replies, as they fall back to woodland.
Approaching a soldier speaking to someone on a phone, the cameraman asks “Who are they shooting at?” “There are civilians and our soldiers there. Do you have a line to the army aviation, what the f*** is happening?”
The soldier replies “Two [Mi-]24s and one [Mi-]8 arrived. They are flying over our checkpoint and shooting at our checkpoint.”
“There are lots of corpses there. We were dousing the burning BMP [infantry combat vehicle], we thought the Mi-8 was going to pick up the bodies. Now they are shooting.” the soldier adds.
The attack was widely reported in the mainstream media as being perpetrated by pro-Russian separatists, yet no mention was made of the helicopter attack. Eyewitnesses told Russian media that the attackers were driving transit vans, with armored vehicles and combat helicopters were providing cover for them.
In addition to the 16 deaths, around 30 more troops were injured.
While the RT report cites a miscommunication between Kiev troops as potentially being to blame for the “friendly fire” incident, others say it is an indication of something more significant.
“The soldiers were ordered (by the Kiev government) to crush the resistance. But they refused to shoot at people, and were, eventually, punished for that,” a source from separatist group The self-defense forces of the People’s Republic of Donetsk said.

In recent days unconfirmed reports have surfaced of Ukrainian forces defecting to the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk.
The witness also claimed that the attackers were using vehicles that belonged to the Privat-Bank, owned by oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. One of the richest men in the country, Kolomoisky has taken charge of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast province, offering bounties for the capture of Russian-backed militants and incentives for the turning in of weapons.
The AP reported that it was The self-defense forces of the People’s Republic of Donetsk who were to blame for the attack, adding that another group of more militant anti-Kiev rebels later had also claimed responsibility.
A Ukrainian army major told the BBC that he was certain that the attackers weren’t from the Donetsk self-defense forces, but were “mercenaries.”
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry confirmed that there was an attack, but only confirmed the deaths of eight of its troops.

Steve Watson is a London based writer and editor for Alex Jones’ Infowars.com, andPrisonplanet.com. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham, and a Bachelor Of Arts Degree in Literature and Creative Writing from Nottingham Trent University.

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Putin: US Backed the ‘Coup’ That Now Threatens Civil War in Ukraine

Putin said Russia would back results of vote, but cautioned Obama on continued mishandling of the crisis


Image Credits: Remy Steinegger via Wikimedia Commons

by Jon Queally | Common Dreams | May 23, 2014

Ahead of contentious nationwide elections in Ukraine this weekend designed to pave the way for a new government in the politically fractured country, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday had strong words for western nations, including the United States, who he says backed the coup d’etat that has put the nation on the edge of all out civil war.
In his remarks Friday, Putin said that Russia would back the results of the vote, but cautioned the Obama administration on its continued mishandling of the crisis, including its failure to honor diplomatic efforts and an overtly-biased relationship with the individuals and parties in Kiev who overthrew the elected government of President Viktor Yanukovich earlier this year.
In an interview with CNBC, in front of an audience at the International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg, Putin offered his overview of what happened in Ukraine and the current conditions by stating (based on CNBC’s transcript):

What happened in Ukraine now is chaos, the country is sliding into chaos. Yanukovych agreed to do anything, whatever, had it all been done legally, we’d continue subsidising them, we’d keep gas prices low, we’d allocate the 15 billion we’d promised. Let us be frank, we’re all grownups in the room, we’re all smart and educated people. The West supported anti-constitutional coup d’état, not just by giving away cookies, but by giving political support, support in the media, using all sorts of tools. And are you blaming us? What we suggested was dialogue. We were denied. When I last came to Brussels we agreed that dialogue would continue but that was before the coup d’état.

Asked repeatedly by the interviewer to discuss how Russian president intends to work with the new government in Kiev, even if the outcome is unfavorable to many in the east and the south, Putin indicated that though he would like to see reforms that address the concerns of all Ukrainians, he is committed to a renewed and healthy relationship with Russia’s neighbor. Putin stated:

Like I said, and I’m not kidding and I’m not being ironic, what we want for Ukraine is peace and calm. We want this country to recover from crisis and conditions are to be created for that. … Again not being ironic, [Ukraine] is a sister nation and we want it to enjoy peace, order and we already cooperate with people that are in power and after the election of course we will cooperate with the newly-elected head of state. But just to make it clear I hope that after the election all military action will stop and national dialogue will begin.

Tensions in the nation are again ascendent as new violence was reported in the east of the country on both Thursay and Friday.
As the Guardian reports:

Ukraine’s defense ministry [said on Friday that] up to 500 insurgents attacked government troops in one clash in eastern Ukraine that left 20 insurgents dead. The ministry said in a statement the clash took place on Thursday as a convoy of Ukrainian troops was attacked outside the eastern village of Rubizhne. Up to 16 Ukrainian soldiers also died on Thursday in an assault on a checkpoint by separatists.
On Friday, the Donbass paramilitary group, which operates with the tacit backing of Kiev, said it had been ambushed by separatist forces, with at least one dead, and many injured or taken hostage.
Voting in the east will be severely limited on Sunday, with pro-Kiev forces not fully in control of the region and a fear that violence could spike as the separatists attempt to disrupt the vote. Kiev has said it will halt its “anti-terrorism operation” against separatist forces on voting day.

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