Thread: The Future of Obamacare

Guess we need to start with you..

The scam of the century

"We'll find out what's in it after we pass it"
The "story" of Obamacare






This will be interesting
It's one thing...

To give weapons to Mexican drug dealers - and then lose track of them...

To wage illegal wars and kill innocent people, including many children...

To give Wall Street scam artists trillions of dollars to bail out their reckless gambles...

I wonder how Americans are going to react when they realize that their insurance costs will double, triple, quadruple and more; that their deductibles are going to grow five to ten times; and that insurance companies will now have the right to "ration" care?

All this after they were told that Obamacare was going to "fix" the health care system in America.

Will this finally get through to them?

There have been a lot of
incredible scams in the last
100 years.

This one has a good chance to make
it to the #1 slot.

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Cruz’s “Repeal Obamacare” vs. Rodgers’ “Keep and Reform It” vs. Option 3

Posted By Chris Graham on Apr 28, 2014


When it comes to handling Obamacare, there are, as I see it, three different approaches that different Republicans favor.

The first is the Tea Party conservatives’ favorite, and unfortunately it’s the most unrealistic: full repeal. But that’s never going to happen as long as the Senate remains in Democratic hands and the President remains a Democrat. The politicians who keep going on about repealing the law are just trying to buy your vote. They know the reality of it (one would hope), but they have to energize their base if they want to remain in power.

The second approach goes like this: “Obamacare is here to stay, so let’s make it work.” Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers is one Republican who subscribes to this method. “We need to look at reforming the exchanges,” she said, since repeal of the law is unlikely.

While I appreciate Rodgers’ acknowledgment of the reality that Obamacare can’t be repealed anytime soon, I reject her defeatist response to that reality.

Acknowledging that Obamacare is here to say, at least for now, is not defeatist, despite what Sen. Ted Cruz or his like say; rather, it is solidly grounding yourself in reality so that you can strategize realistically. No progress in the actual, non-liberal sense can be made by living a fantasy. What is defeatist, however, is to accommodate the law, as Rodgers and others suggest we do.

What good can come about from reforming the health-care exchanges? What do we expect will happen by making the exchanges work smoothly? Does Rodgers not realize that if they are “fixed,” people will like Obamacare and never want to give it up?

This brings me to the third approach, which some shortsighted people would view as defeatist and which others are terrified of: Acknowledging the reality that Obamacare can’t be repealed right now, and not reforming the exchanges. In other words, let Obamacare do the damage that it’s going to do; let people lose their health insurance; let their personal information be hacked through the insecure websites, as has been happening. Thus will Obamacare damage itself. This is not defeatist; on the contrary, it is the bravest and most powerful way to fight back and tear this program down. On top of that, it is the one method that distances Republicans from the program entirely. How can they ever possibly be blamed if they have nothing to do with its operation at all?

Democrats want to fix the exchanges because they know that those exchanges (and, by extension, Obamacare as a whole) are Obamacare’s own worst enemy. So why should we want to help Democrats fix those exchanges? Why should we want to help Democrats make Obamacare more likeable?

Obamacare is already working against itself. Unfortunately there are unthinking Republicans out there who just blurt out reckless bumper-sticker phrases without any semblance of a strategy (Cruz, radio host Mark Levin, etc.), who want to repeal the law now, thus protecting Obamacare and socialized medicine from self-destructing even further in public opinion; and there are other Republicans who want to let Obamacare stay but reform the exchanges (Rodgers), thus, still, protecting Obamacare and socialized medicine from self-destructing even further in public opinion. What good is it to have Tea Partiers oppose RINOs if the policies of both have the same exact effect? Both the Tea Party and the RINOs have plans that would effectively prevent damage not just to Obamacare specifically, but prevent damage to the entire notion that socialized medicine can work.

Be smart, be strategic—ditch the RINOs, ditch the Tea Party, and support the third approach to Obamacare.

Read more at http://lastresistance.com/5561/cruzs...pRSDDl32qo2.99

States That Opposed Obamacare Spent The Least Per Person On Enrollment




Sarah Hurtubise 16 hours ago

The five states that managed to keep Obamacare enrollment costs the lowest per person were actually among those that most strongly opposed the health care law, according to a new report.

“The five states with their lowest cost-per-enrollee are all states whose governors and/or legislatures have resisted the ACA, and whose Attorneys-General challenged the constitutionality of the ACA,” wrote Jay Angoff, a former Health and Human Services official who worked under outgoing secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

Florida, Texas, Georgia, Virginia and Michigan produced the five lowest enrollment costs per sign-up, according to Angoff’s report for Washington, D.C. law firm Mehri and Skalet.

When the states’ sign-up numbers were compared to HHS’ total spending on the exchange itself, Florida had the lowest cost at $76 per sign-up. Texas came to $102 per person; Georgia, $240 per person; Virginia, $376 per person; and Michigan at $427 per person.”

Meanwhile, the top five exchanges with the highest totals per sign-up included three Obamacare supporters and two that opposed it. The top two most expensive exchanges, Hawaii and Washington, D.C., have leaders which support the health care law.

The whopping total that Health and Human Services spent creating the exchanges came out to almost $7.4 billion. About half of that went to just 14 state exchanges and Washington, D.C. — the total for all state-run marketplaces was $3.87 billion. The federally-run exchanges, covering 36 states, cost $3.52 billion to build and begin enrollment.

While state-run exchanges have been drastically more costly per state, a good number of them are failing entirely. Oregon has already opted to give up on its state-run exchange and allow the federal government to run the Obamacare program through HealthCare.gov instead. HHS spent $303 million on Oregon’s exchange by itself, bringing it to a total of $4,419 per sign-up.

Massachusetts has also given up on its exchange — which previously functioned just fine under Romneycare — hoping to create a new state-run program, with the possibility of jumping onto HealthCare.gov if it isn’t ready in time for the next open enrollment period.

Even Massachusetts, though, with its health care exchange expertise, spent $5,681 per person to sign up 31,695 people for coverage. The state received $180 million from HHS to make its Romneycare exchange Obamacare-compliant.

Hawaii’s exchange, which along with Massachusetts, Oregon and Maryland has been in the top five worst state exchanges, cost by far the most, coming in at a whopping $23,899 per person.

Washington, D.C.’s exchange had the next highest per-enrollment costs at $12,467 per sign-up. Unsurprisingly, the District approved this week a tax on all health insurers operating in the city to pay for its struggling exchange.

The most cost-efficient exchanges were all run through HealthCare.gov, a sign of their opposition to the health care law. A possibility for their success could be lower spending on extras that failed to help people sign-up for coverage.

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