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    again ... wheres the high tides and flooding... it could screw up my vollyball matches on the beach

    17 years later... no floods, no high tides and thats after global warming ended

    Beach Vollyball continues in flood prone Florida

    did I also mention global warming ended 17 years ago

    it ended... must be a delayed action on those high tides and floods
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    Some people in New York used to think rising seas weren't a real problem.
    More of them do now.

    Sandy-struck Breezy Point facing 'greatest historical challenge'

    John Makely / NBC News
    The Breezy Point neighborhood of Queens, where more than 100 homes burned when Superstorm Sandy hit.
    Scroll to bottom of story to see a 360 degree panorama of the fire zone.

    By Miranda Leitsinger, NBC News

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    Heavily damaged homes along Oceanside Drive in Breezy Point, N.Y.



    Courtesy of Mary Quinn
    Mary Quinn, now 59, stands with her parents and older brothers as a little girl in Breezy Point in front of their bungalow, which was the typical type of housing in the community's earlier days. Quinn's family moved to the community full time in the early 1960s. She rebuilt the house in 1994.

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    Rob Moran, 38, cleans out the flooded basement of his home in Breezy Point, N.Y., on Dec. 1, 2012. Moran and his wife Carinne Bach, 38, are asking building inspectors to re-assess their home, which they fear may not be safe to live in.

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    A FEMA inspector works amid the burned homes in Breezy Point.

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    Laurie Cerra, a registered dietitian from Pennsylvania, stands in the living room of her Breezy Point, N.Y., home on Dec. 1, 2012, as volunteers help her remove debris. Cerra is hoping she can save the damaged foundation and rebuild the home, which has been in her family for about 85 years.

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    FEMA maps rising N.J. flood risk

    Geoff Mulvihill, Associated Press
    Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 3:01 AM

    People rebuilding homes in New Jersey damaged by Sandy should raise them higher, the Federal Emergency Management Agency said Friday.

    FEMA gave details on an advisory flood map for 10 counties that shows the risk of flooding is worse than was believed when flood-zone maps were adopted nearly 30 years ago. The water levels in floods could be one to five feet higher in most coastal flood zones, the agency said.

    The map is to be released Saturday to guide property owners and communities as they decide how to rebuild.

    "It's important as we move forward that people know their risk," said Ryan Pietrimeli, the FEMA risk analysis branch chief.

    The maps being made public are based on data gathered as the agency sought to update maps it uses to determine premiums in the federal flood insurance program.


    The information predates when Sandy crashed into New Jersey's shore in October, devastating many coastal areas. The maps do not incorporate projections that the sea level will rise at an accelerating rate.

    The official flood insurance map is due to be unveiled next year and adopted in 2014.

    Pietrimeli said communities should adopt the map to be made public Saturday into building codes. In some places, it will mean structures should be built on pilings or piers. He also said there could be tougher codes in areas where waves could crash into buildings.

    Pietrimeli said one incentive for homeowners to follow the new map is that they can receive discounts on flood insurance if they elevate their homes above levels currently required.

    The map covers 194 municipalities in Atlantic, Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean and Union Counties.
    The maps are to be posted at http://www.region2coastal.com .

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    Sanibel Island, Florida - a ray-filled sunset over Bowman's Beach 20 miles north of Naples.. Again... notice the beach is at flood level as is most of Florida - approx. 80%

    Florida is Still waiting for the wall of water to arrive and openly Mocking the Climate Fraudsters

    17 years after global warming ending - the UN decided to go with Climate Change seeing how the global warming wasnt flying so well

    If flood waters are coming from melting ice pack ... we would be one of the first to know as would other areas along the coast at sea level

    if the ocean level went up even at a MINIMAL level... it would FLOOD the beach and the tides would wipe out the island as well as 80% of Florida .. seeings how water displaces water... If it gets higher ANYWHERE in the World we would see it too

    16 - 17 years after global warming ended and not a vollyball game missed because of rising waters

    But even if it did... people in Florida chose to live at Flood Level to enjoy the Increadible weather and sun

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    Wait until a big old hurricane comes ashore.

    Everything looked nice in New York and New jersey before the storm arrived.
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    we face them every year... year after year after year.. Hurricanes are nothing new to Florida or any where in America ... Residents in Jersey and New York built houses in a flood zone... just like Florida... what is the point you are trying to make
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    Articles and studies don't say Florida has already flooded. They say it is likely to flood in the near future.

    Report: Chances tripled Naples will see historic storm surge

    By ERIC STAATS

    • marconews.com
    • Posted March 14, 2012 at 7:43 p.m.


    The Gulf of Mexico is on the rise and so is the storm surge risk for thousands of Southwest Florida homes, a report released Wednesday by a climate change advocacy group says.

    The New Jersey-based nonprofit group, Climate Central, ranks Florida the No. 1 state in the nation for vulnerability to sea level rise. The report puts Lee and Collier counties in the Top 10 most vulnerable counties based on numbers of people living less than 4 feet above high tide. Collier is ninth; Lee is fifth.

    Rising Tides

    Go to Surging Seas: Sea level rise analysis by Climate Central to read the “Surging Seas” report and search interactive maps to see how its predictions of sea level rise and storm surge effect your neighborhood.

    Sea level rise brought on by global warming is dramatically increasing the odds that 5 million people living on the U.S. coast will face storm surges by 2030 that had been considered so rare that the chances of them occurring were only 1 percent in any given year, the report says.

    Collier County officials and community leaders said Wednesday that local governments have not done enough to start a community dialogue about how to handle sea level rise.

    "We don't need to be wading to the meeting about what we're going to do; we need to talk about it now," said Steve Hart, coordinator of a county citizens committee looking at ways to reduce global warming by saving energy.

    The group's report, "Surging Seas," is based on two peer-reviewed research papers published Wednesday in the scientific journal Environmental Research Letters with the University of Arizona and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

    The research is the basis for a web site — www.surgingseas.org — with a groundbreaking interactive map that puts the effects of sea level rise and storm surge at non-scientists' fingertips.

    Sea level rise will triple the chance of a storm surge by 2030 that would put more than 11,000 homes in Naples — 58,000 across Collier County — in a flooding danger zone, according to the report.

    The odds of flood waters reaching those homes by 2030 is 7 percent without global warming, but jumps to 25 percent with global warming, the report says.
    The flood estimates are based solely on elevation and don't take into account protective measures, like sea walls or levees. The report questions, though, how well they will work as sea levels rise.

    Between 1965 and 2006, the NOAA water level gauge at Naples has shown a 3-inch rise in the level of the Gulf of Mexico, according to the report, which projects another 11 inches of rise by 2050.

    While it's not too late to slow sea level rise, the effects of global warming on the planet makes continued sea level rise inevitable, said the study's lead author, Ben Strauss, director of the seal level rise program at Climate Central.

    "When you take an ice cube out of the freezer and put it on the table, it takes a while to melt," Strauss said.

    Climate change skeptic Myron Ebell agreed sea levels are rising but chalked it up to natural fluctuations, not global warming, and said it is more modest than Climate Central claims.

    Experts using satellite data figure sea levels are rising at the rate of about a foot every century, said Ebell, director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

    He called the report's outside estimates of as much as 2 feet of sea level rise by 2050 "just fantasy" based on computer models that aren't adequate to tackle as tricky a subject as sea level rise.

    "It's a problem you're going to have to deal with but it's not a looming crisis or disaster," Ebell said, suggesting that coastal residents might want to stop building mansions on the beach.

    It may take a major hurricane to force the issue of whether to rebuild in coastal areas vulnerable to sea level rise, but there are no policies in place to guide such decisions, said Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council planner Dan Trescott.

    "The problem is no one is really addressing these things," he said.

    Trescott said the Regional Planning Council is applying for a grant from the National Science Foundation to pay to train local government officials about how to deal with sea level rise.

    In January, Naples Natural Resources Manager Mike Bauer wrote a memo suggesting the city begin talking about how to make the city "resilient" to sea level rise.

    "It's going to be a low priority because it's out in the future," Bauer said Wednesday. "We've got things to deal with right now and limited resources to do it."

    The city of Naples and Collier County have undertaken energy audits to determine their contribution to global warming and have taken steps to reduce their energy usage.

    Collier County has gone a step further, authorizing a citizens committee to study whether the county should set up a pool of money property owners could borrow from to make energy efficient retrofits to their homes.

    "That's a way of doing our part," said Hart, who is coordinating the effort. "The best thing we can do right now today is to stop pumping CO2 into the atmosphere."

    Instead of just mitigating sea level rise, adapting to it will be require lots of money and tough decisions about where people should live, Collier County Audubon Society policy advocate Brad Cornell said. That doesn't mean the community shouldn't begin talking about it, he said.

    "I think there's a huge lack of attention to a really important, current threat to our community," he said.

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    hahahaha ... well ok ... in the mean time we will continue mocking them 17 years after Global warming stopped and waiting for that wall of water to arrive
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