Thread: Islam 101: a guide to the "religion of peace"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam101/

This article undercuts the notion of a "moderate islam". In particular look up the concept of i. Taqiyya -- Religious Deception (which I personally think Barack Obama is practicing in his "conversion" to Christianity):

Due to the state of war between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb, reuses de guerre, i.e., systematic lying to the infidel, must be considered part and parcel of Islamic tactics. The parroting by Muslim organizations throughout dar al-harb that "Islam is a religion of peace," or that the origins of Muslim violence lie in the unbalanced psyches of particular individual "fanatics," must be considered as disinformation intended to induce the infidel world to let down its guard. Of course, individual Muslims may genuinely regard their religion as "peaceful" -- but only insofar as they are ignorant of its true teachings, or in the sense of the Egyptian theorist Sayyid Qutb, who posited in his Islam and Universal Peace that true peace would prevail in the world just as soon as Islam had conquered it.

A telling point is that, while Muslims who present their religion as peaceful abound throughout dar al-harb, they are nearly non-existent in dar al-Islam. A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners who believe that Islam is a religion of "peace" and "tolerance": try making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't live five minutes.

{A} problem concerning law and order {with respect to Muslims in dar al-harb} arises from an ancient Islamic legal principle -- that of taqiyya, a word the root meaning of which is "to remain faithful" but which in effect means "dissimulation." It has full Quranic authority (3:28 and 16:106) and allows the Muslim to conform outwardly to the requirements of unislamic or non-Islamic government, while inwardly "remaining faithful" to whatever he conceives to be proper Islam, while waiting for the tide to turn. (Hiskett, Some to Mecca Turn to Pray, 101.)

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269; Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

Historically, examples of taqiyya include permission to renounce Islam itself in order to save one's neck or ingratiate oneself with an enemy. It is not hard to see that the implications of taqiyya are insidious in the extreme: they essentially render negotiated settlement -- and, indeed, all veracious communication between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb -- impossible. It should not, however, be surprising that a party to a war should seek to mislead the other about its means and intentions. Jihad Watch's own Hugh Fitzgerald sums up taqiyya and kitman, a related form of deception.

"Taqiyya" is the religiously-sanctioned doctrine, with its origins in Shi'a Islam but now practiced by non-Shi'a as well, of deliberate dissimulation about religious matters that may be undertaken to protect Islam, and the Believers. A related term, of broader application, is "kitman," which is defined as "mental reservation." An example of "Taqiyya" would be the insistence of a Muslim apologist that "of course" there is freedom of conscience in Islam, and then quoting that Qur'anic verse -- "There shall be no compulsion in religion." {2:256} But the impression given will be false, for there has been no mention of the Muslim doctrine of abrogation, or naskh, whereby such an early verse as that about "no compulsion in religion" has been cancelled out by later, far more intolerant and malevolent verses. In any case, history shows that within Islam there is, and always has been, "compulsion in religion" for Muslims, and for non-Muslims.

"Kitman" is close to "taqiyya," but rather than outright dissimulation, it consists in telling only a part of the truth, with "mental reservation" justifying the omission of the rest. One example may suffice. When a Muslim maintains that "jihad" really means "a spiritual struggle," and fails to add that this definition is a recent one in Islam (little more than a century old), he misleads by holding back, and is practicing "kitman." When he adduces, in support of this doubtful proposition, the hadith in which Muhammad, returning home from one of his many battles, is reported to have said (as known from a chain of transmitters, or isnad), that he had returned from "the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad" and does not add what he also knows to be true, that this is a "weak" hadith, regarded by the most-respected muhaddithin as of doubtful authenticity, he is further practicing "kitman."

In times when the greater strength of dar al-harb necessitates that the jihad take an indirect approach, the natural attitude of a Muslim to the infidel world must be one of deception and omission. Revealing frankly the ultimate goal of dar al-Islam to conquer and plunder dar al-harb when the latter holds the military trump cards would be strategic idiocy. Fortunately for the jihadists, most infidels do not understand how one is to read the Quran, nor do they trouble themselves to find out what Muhammad actually did and taught, which makes it easy to give the impression through selective quotations and omissions that "Islam is a religion of peace." Any infidel who wants to believe such fiction will happily persist in his mistake having been cited a handful of Meccan verses and told that Muhammad was a man of great piety and charity. Digging only slightly deeper is sufficient to dispel the falsehood.

A religion based on Lies is what it sounds like to me... but then again... there are other religions that seemed to play all kind of wild games with the mind... I am no longer a Catholic because of some of the stuff I seen

This article undercuts the notion of a "moderate islam". In particular look up the concept of i. Taqiyya -- Religious Deception (which I personally think Barack Obama is practicing in his "conversion" to Christianity):

He was never practicing the religion of Islam, so he did not have to convert to Christianity. Islam was never his religion. He was never a student of Islam.

Originally Posted by dyehard39

This article undercuts the notion of a "moderate islam". In particular look up the concept of i. Taqiyya -- Religious Deception (which I personally think Barack Obama is practicing in his "conversion" to Christianity):

He was never practicing the religion of Islam, so he did not have to convert to Christianity. Islam was never his religion. He was never a student of Islam.

Yeah, his father AND stepfather were BOTH muslims, but he wasn't? He attended mosques and islamic schools but he WASN'T a muslim? Yeah I believe you, just like I believe the MSM.

The only biography of this guy is one written by himself and his lackeys.

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

A religion based on Lies is what it sounds like to me... but then again... there are other religions that seemed to play all kind of wild games with the mind... I am no longer a Catholic because of some of the stuff I seen

Did you read the article?

Yeah, but the Catholic church doesn't issue fatwahs against "heretics" anymore and Catholic countries don't have crimes against catholicism anymore either.

Did you read the article?

Yeah, but the Catholic church doesn't issue fatwahs against "heretics" anymore and Catholic countries don't have crimes against catholicism anymore either.

I was referring to child molestation in the catholic church

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Did you read the article?

Yeah, but the Catholic church doesn't issue fatwahs against "heretics" anymore and Catholic countries don't have crimes against catholicism anymore either.

I was referring to child molestation in the catholic church

To be fair, this isn't an officially sanctioned policy of the Catholic Church is it?

To be fair, this isn't an officially sanctioned policy of the Catholic Church is it?

No... not a policy.. but I have several problems with it

1. Donations to the church are not going to the poor that need help. 514 million dollars were just paid out from 1 law suit. There are several other law suits that paid mega millions to end the suit. The church doesnt condone these things.. but it is paying for it by the generous donations of it parishinors

2. The church actually protected some of these priests until the public outrage forced the church to take action

3. I believe the church also uses the Illegal Immigrant card to get more parishinors because many from south America are predominantly Catholic.....it's all about how to make Mo Money with Yo Money hidden behind the message of the good samaritan

I'm grateful for freedom of religion. As long as my practices do not infringe upon the rights of others, then I can do what I please. That's the greatest thing about America.

Dixie

Originally Posted by Dixie

I'm grateful for freedom of religion. As long as my practices do not infringe upon the rights of others, then I can do what I please. That's the greatest thing about America.

Dixie

When the Founding Fathers wrote of Religious Freedom, Islam and Muslim Extremism never entered their minds, they were thinking of different Sec's of Christanity, Catholic, Protestant and possibily Judaism. If any of you ever read the Koran, you would already know there is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim.