Thread: James Cameron finds grave of Jesus & Son.

Just goole "James Cameron finds grave of Jesus & Son"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/26/cameron_grave/


Hollywood giant James Cameron has set himself his biggest challenge yet – rewriting the bible after discovering that Jesus sired a son before being buried outside Jerusalem.

Cameron claims to have found the, now empty, tomb of one Jesua, son of Joseph. The sepulchre also apparently contained the bodies of Mary. As well as another Mary, Matthew and Jofa, and most spectacularly, Jonah, son of Jesua

Cameron will claim in a documentary on the Discovery Channel next month that Jesua is also known as Jesus – yes that one – and that this particular first century household is better know to Christians as “The Holy Family”.

This will be spectacular news as readers of the New Testament have tended to think that after rising from the dead, Jesus ascended to heaven where he is seated at the right hand of the father. The father in question being not Joseph, but God himself.

Equally shocking, at least to anyone who doesn’t buy their reading matter in airports, will be the news that Jesus fathered a son, when he was supposed to have spent his short life performing miracles, redeeming sinful mankind and generally fulfilling his divine mission.

But don’t worry, Cameron has the whole story well tied down.

Apparently the tomb was found 20 years ago, and it has taken this long to decipher the names and to confirm the identities using DNA analysis.

This timelag is just a blink of the eye in biblical terms, and is totally understandable given that Jesus was the son of God, and pinning down supreme beings to get a cheek swab is never easy

I just watched this on the news. How ridiculous. Did you notice that the architect who originally found the tomb said that all of these names were very common during that time period? Also that there are many, many tombs with the name Jesus on them dating from the same era. How do you do DNA testing for the son of God?

Maybe it was Jesus Garcia

Whatmattersmost wrote:

Maybe it was Jesus Garcia

The criminal alien.........

that as some mexican named Jesus that got in illegally

The Talpiot Tomb
On March 28, 1980, a construction crew developing an apartment complex in Talpiot, Jerusalem, uncovered a tomb, which archaeologists from the Israeli Antiquities Authority excavated shortly thereafter. Archaeologist Shimon Gibson surveyed the site and drew a layout plan. Scholar L.Y. Rahmani later published "A Catalogue of Jewish Ossuaries" that described 10 ossuaries, or limestone bone boxes, found in the tomb.

Well, the tomb is in the wrong place to be associated with Yeshua (the correct Hebrew spelling of the name), the Christ, or his family. Christ was buried in a tomb belonging not to his family, but to Joseph of Arimathea, a wealthy and well-travelled merchant who operated tin mines in what is now Wales. The location of that tomb was well-documented. Christ's family was not from Jerusalem, but rather from near Galilee, far north of Jerusalem, so it would make little sense for them to have a family tomb near Jerusalem.

Here is a related article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... =54474TOMB RAIDERS



'Cameron's coffin' is 2007 Easter attack
Christians say Discovery should cancel showing, filmmaker should apologize

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Posted: February 28, 2007
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The Discovery Channel should cancel a scheduled airing of a film about a purported Jerusalem grave of Jesus Christ, and should apologize for presenting such "an unsubstantiated claim," according to family values organizations.

Robert Knight, director of the Media Research Center's Culture and Media Institute, told WND that the film, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," is just the 2007 version of an annual attack on Christianity right around the time of Easter, the time at which the Christian church remembers Jesus' Resurrection.

"It always seems to happen just before Easter," he said. "It's as if there's a script going around, and everyone gets a turn at it – to call into doubt the central theme of Christianity, which is that Jesus is God Incarnate and rose from the dead."

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A year ago, he said, it was the film, "Da Vinci Code," in which the claim is made that Jesus had a daughter. This year, under the pending "documentary" made by James Cameron, Jesus married Mary Magdalene, had son Judah, and they all died and were buried together in Jerusalem.

"The Discovery Channel bills itself as the 'number one non-fiction media company reaching more than 1.5 billion people in over 170 countries.' But this bigoted documentary is pure fiction. Numerous leading scholars, including the Israeli archaeologist who first studied the site, have already rejected the notion that Jesus of Nazareth's bones were found in the Talpiot tomb," Knight said.

L. Brent Bozell III, the president of the MRC, said the program should be cancelled. If it isn't, he said, the Discovery Channel "will have to explain why it is intentionally misleading the public."

"They should be embarrassed by this plunge into sensational speculation masquerading as 'science.' To slander Christianity at the start of the Lenten season is unconscionable," he said.

Bozell noted it was five years ago when the channel launched its promotion of the "James Ossuary," alleged to be the bone box of James, Jesus' half-brother, a relic later proven to be a forgery.

"Now it's the 'tomb' of Jesus," Bozell said. "What they're really doing is attacking Christianity. The title of the documentary ought to be 'Discovery Channel Says Christianity Is a Fraud' – but they don't have the guts to say it."

Knight told WND that the danger is that people will believe what they see. "We saw this with the 'Da Vinci Code.' People bought into the alleged historical accuracy of claims, made even in a work of fiction, so when a documentary comes along, posing as objective critical analysis, that means more people will buy into the absurd and unproven premise that Jesus was just a man and that his earthly remains have been found."

He noted that the "leap" of logic the film forces viewers to make is beyond belief. "All they can tell us is that two of the caskets in the crypt held remains that were unrelated maternally, then they take the giant leap of logic that these two people were married and they were Jesus and Mary Magdalene."

By contrast, he said, the Bible is "the most well-documented piece of antiquity out there by far." He said there exist portions of the New Testament that date to within 100 years of the actual events.

"The Discovery Channel, out of respect for the one billion Christians worldwide, should yank this program. It's irresponsible. It's incendiary, and it's always aimed at Christianity," he said.

Jerry Johnson, president of Criswell College in Texas, said Cameron's claims are unscientific and heretical, and an apology is due.

"Cameron's claims are founded on the desire to make good TV instead of forensic DNA evidence," said Johnson. "Ironically, each Easter we see a story like this pop up in the media. … I'm asking Cameron to consider apologizing to the Christian community world-wide…"

"This program about Jesus' alleged tomb is little more than a cynical ratings ploy that deserves to be buried with all of the other fantastical claims that arise about the 'real' Jesus this time of year," said Jim Tonkowich, president of The Institute on Religion and Democracy. "The Discovery Channel's program is an absurd venture into irresponsible conjecture that appears to be designed to tear at the fabric of the faith and hope of billions worldwide.

"An ossuary labeled 'Jesus' is about as specific to Christ as a chunk of wood that is claimed to be a part of the Ark," he said.

Cameron, who previously directed "The Titanic," earlier held a New York news conference to display two stone coffins he alleged came from a Jerusalem crypt he alleges belonged to Jesus and his family.

Rev. Rob Schenck, the president of the National Clergy Council, and it's just another Hollywood attack on Christianity, and the production is no more than "a modern day circus sideshow."

Theories about the possibilities that Jesus survived the crucifixion abound. One current website alleges that Jesus lived, moved to India, and died and is buried there, while another claims he's buried in Japan.

But for anything like those website claims, or Cameron's story, to be true, the thousands of pieces of historical documentation of the Bible, and the verification by secular historians of biblical people and events, would have to be discredited.

Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the conclusions cannot be supported by the evidence – but it's a way to make money on television. He would have nothing to do with supporting the movie's assertions. "It's nonsense," he said.

Schenck said the whole publicity stunt may backfire on Cameron, and encourage people to dig deeper into the reasons they believe the way they do. "In the end ... the truth will be told," he said.



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Harvard proved Jesus' Resurrection
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Perhaps I should be appalled at the James Cameron documentary about "the tomb of Jesus" being discovered. However, I am actually amazed that this has been all Cameron can come up with.

However, the media-worshipping public typically trumpets this announcement, proclaiming old news as if it were moments old.

At the foundation of the gullible masses has been the failure of Christianity to show the absolute historicity of our faith. What we believe (know) is not bound up with myth and legend; scholars like Robert Dick Wilson of Princeton, F.F. Bruce of the University of Manchester, Gleason Archer (who can read and write 40 different ancient languages) and scores of other impeccably accredited scholars have proven beyond a doubt the Christian faith is a truly historic faith – but that body of evidence has not been taught to the modern public.

It would behoove a newssite like WND to print the findings of Judge Simon Greenleaf of Harvard Law School concerning his absolute belief on the resurrection of Jesus based solely on the rules of evidence used in America's courts.

Scott Bonovich

Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost

Maybe it was Jesus Garcia

They say they're going to do DNA tests. The only thing that could prove, is those bones are related to the other bones.

Where would they find DNA of Jesus?