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    JFK assassination plot uncovered in Chicago?

    JFK assassination plot uncovered in Chicago?
    Ex-Secret Service agent reveals tip caused president to change travel plans 3 weeks before Dallas shooting

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    Posted: November 22, 2007
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    Nov. 22, 1963, Dallas

    Lee Harvey Oswald, Dallas and Nov. 22, 1963, would never have become etched into the minds of millions of Americans if a plot – revealed by an ex-Secret Service agent – to kill President John F. Kennedy in Chicago three weeks earlier had been successful.

    Former agent Abraham Bolden, 72, told Chicago ABC affiliate, WLS-TV, Kennedy was waved off from a much-publicized visit to Chicago on Nov. 2, 1963, to attend the Army-Air Force football game at Soldier Field and ride in a parade after the Secret Service received a report from a motel manager who told of seeing several automatic weapons with telescopic sights on the bed of a room rented to several Cuban nationals. They had an outline of the route Kennedy was to follow from O'Hare airport that would take his motorcade past the motel. The route had been printed in Chicago newspapers.

    Bolden, a former Illinois state trooper, was the first black agent to protect a president.

    The Secret Service was already uneasy about the presidential visit because an outspoken critic of the president, Thomas Vallee, had arranged to take off work for Kennedy's visit. Vallee was arrested before the planned visit with an M1 rifle, a handgun and 3,000 rounds of ammunition in his possession.

    News of the Cuban nationals triggered an investigation but, Bolden charges, the surveillance was mishandled and the Cuban suspects disappeared and were never identified.

    "No one was sent to the room to fingerprint it or get an ID. The case was lost and that was the end of it," he said.

    The day of the planned flight from Washington, D.C., with a suspected Cuban hit team somewhere in Chicago, the Secret Service urged a change of plans.

    "The morning of the game, the special agent in charge of the Chicago office called the White House and recommended the president cancel his trip to Chicago," Bolden said.

    News reports at the time blamed the change in plans on illness and a diplomatic crisis. South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem was assassinated in Saigon on that same day.

    But Bolden, in his first interview in 44 years, told WLS-TV, neither illness nor crisis were the reason plans were changed – JFK stayed away from Chicago because of the suspected assassination plot.

    Following Kennedy's murder in Dallas three weeks later, Bolden said he tried to inform the Warren Commission of the Chicago plot and misconduct by Secret Service agents, including on-duty drunkenness, but his efforts were thwarted when he was arrested, prosecuted and sentenced to prison for soliciting a bribe from a counterfeiter.

    Bolden, who served six years, claims he was set up to silence his criticism of agents' behavior and is hoping to clear his name after the main witness against him recanted his testimony.
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    Lawmen at Lee Harvey Oswald's side remember prisoner
    Detectives escorted Kennedy's accused killer through chaotic hours
    08:25 AM CST on Thursday, November 22, 2007
    By DAVID FLICK / The Dallas Morning News
    dflick@dallasnews.com

    Detectives Richard M. Sims and Elmer "Sonny" Boyd handled hundreds of prisoners in their 20 years as partners in the Dallas Police Department.

    But they never saw a suspect as cool under fire as the one they met on Nov. 22, 1963: accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.

    "That's what got me – how could he be in this position and be so calm?" Mr. Boyd recalled earlier this month. "If I had just shot two people, I would be pretty nervous, but he wasn't."

    The two detectives spent more time than anyone else with Oswald in the days after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy 44 years ago Thursday.

    Mr. Sims and Mr. Boyd, who had been professionally paired since 1957, were assigned by their boss, Will Fritz, captain of the homicide and robbery division, to escort Oswald after his capture in the shootings of the president and of Dallas police Officer J.D. Tippit.


    FILE 1963/TOM DILLARD/DMN For two days, Detectives Richard Sims (left) and Sonny Boyd flanked Lee Harvey Oswald. "Capt. Fritz said, 'I want you to be with Oswald the whole time,' " Mr. Sims said. "He did that so we could say we were there if anyone tried to claim anything happened to him [Oswald]."

    Over the next two days, the detectives walked him through the corridors of City Hall to his prison cell, to Capt. Fritz's office, to line-ups and to a meeting with the media. They sat in on interrogations, though others asked the questions.

    During one interrogation on Friday – the evening of the assassination – Mr. Sims left Oswald's presence to take a phone call.

    The caller was an old acquaintance: a local nightclub owner by the name of Jack Ruby.

    "He said he was down at Sol's Turf Bar and he said, 'I got 30 sandwiches made up and some drinks.' He wanted to bring them down in case we didn't have time to get something to eat," Mr. Sims recalled.


    JIM MAHONEY/DMN Now retired, Mr. Boyd, 80, lives in Navarro County. Mr. Sims declined Ruby's offer. Later that weekend, they would have occasion to talk again.

    In photos seen worldwide over the next four decades, Mr. Sims and Mr. Boyd flank the handcuffed Oswald, the two plainclothes detectives easily distinguished by their Western-style hats.

    Mr. Sims, who is 83 and lives in Far East Dallas, said the hats, which are sometimes singled out as evidence of the city's frontier mentality, were actually a tribute to Capt. Fritz, who was greatly admired by the men who worked for him.

    "Capt. Fritz had been a cowboy in West Texas and New Mexico. He was used to wearing them, and we all copied him," he said. "Besides, I liked them."

    Mr. Boyd, 80, who lives in the Navarro County town of Blooming Grove, was featured prominently in the famous photograph of a seemingly defiant Oswald raising a manacled fist, an image that has long intrigued scholars and conspiracy theorists.

    "It's one of the most iconic images of Oswald. It's just a terrific photo," said Gary Mack, curator of The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza. "But what does it show?"


    JIM MAHONEY/DMN Richard Sims, 83, now lives in Far East Dallas. Some thought Oswald's upraised fist was a political gesture, a symbol of Communist solidarity. Others thought it was simply an in-your-face jab at authority.

    But Mr. Boyd and other witnesses believe the gesture meant nothing at all.

    Some say Mr. Boyd and Mr. Sims were pushing or pulling Oswald in a way that made his arms go up. Mr. Boyd denies that he was pulling Oswald, but the hallways were chaotic during those historic hours, and he said the prisoner may have been reacting to jostling by on-lookers.

    Bill Winfrey, The Dallas Morning News photographer who shot the photo, said the motion was too quick to have been an intentional symbol.

    "He was just being pushed, you could see his arms going up as he was being shoved down the hallway," said Mr. Winfrey, 74, who is now retired and living in Kemp. "They were moving him pretty fast."

    Through it all, Oswald stayed composed. His initial capture by police resulted in a tussle that ended in a black eye. Oswald later told the two detectives that he deserved it.

    Most of the time, he was a model prisoner who would occasionally engage in small talk with the two detectives about his life in Russia.

    "He didn't give us any trouble at all. He went along like a little puppy dog when Boyd and I had him," Mr. Sims said.

    There were two exceptions, Mr. Boyd said.

    A reporter asked Oswald if he had shot the president, and the accused assassin snapped – in a quote that launched a thousand conspiracy theories – "I'm just a patsy."

    A lesser-known incident occurred during an interrogation with FBI Agent James Hosty, who had upset Oswald's estranged wife before the assassination by contacting her to determine his whereabouts.

    When Agent Hosty introduced himself in the interrogation room, Oswald exploded.

    "He slammed his handcuffs on the table and said, 'You don't have to tell me who you are. You're the one who was out accosting my wife,' " Mr. Boyd said.

    A lack of emotion was more characteristic of Oswald during the interrogations, Mr. Boyd said.

    "He talked and he answered all the questions, but I don't think he was telling the truth," the former detective said.

    When Oswald was shown the photo of himself posing in the yard of his Oak Cliff apartment with the Italian rifle used in the assassination, Oswald denied its authenticity.

    "He said, 'I know all about trick photography. They've put my face on someone else's body,' " Mr. Boyd recalled.

    Mr. Sims and Mr. Boyd each said they agree with the Warren Commission conclusion that Oswald acted alone in shooting the president. Mr. Sims said he is not shy in speaking his mind to conspiracy theorists who contend otherwise.

    "I had one old boy from Louisiana call me the other day and said, 'I know who killed Kennedy,' and I said, 'I do, too.' He said, "Who?' and I said, 'Oswald,' " Mr. Sims recalled.

    On Saturday, Nov. 23, Capt. Fritz gave Mr. Boyd and Mr. Sims the option of working late or coming in Sunday morning to help transfer Oswald to the county jail, Mr. Boyd said.

    They worked until after 3 a.m. Sunday.

    "We were the only ones in the hallways. Everyone else had gone home," Mr. Sims said. "I said to Boyd that if they were smart, they'd move him [Oswald] over to the county jail right now."

    Both men said they had been concerned at how Oswald had been paraded through the corridors of City Hall.

    "The press knew everything. They knew where he was going to be moved and when, and it was in the papers and on television," Mr. Sims said.

    He was not surprised then, he said, when Oswald was killed Sunday morning during the transfer in the crowded basement of City Hall.

    Mr. Boyd was watching television at his mother-in-law's house in Irving when Oswald was shot by a then-unknown man.

    "My first reaction was, I said, 'That looks like Jack Ruby.' "

    Mr. Ruby was well known at police headquarters. Mr. Sims knew him from his days on the vice squad more than a decade before.

    "Ruby liked policemen," Mr. Sims recalled. "When a policeman died, he'd take two or three girls and go to the funeral."

    After Ruby was taken into custody for Oswald's shooting, he asked to speak to Mr. Sims.

    "He said, 'Are you mad at me?' and I said, 'I'm not mad at you, Jack, but it's a terrible thing you did. Why'd you do it'?" Mr. Sims recalled. "And he said, 'I didn't want Jackie Kennedy to have to come back here for the trial.' "

    Mr. Boyd and Mr. Sims continued to work as partners until 1976, when Mr. Sims retired. Mr. Boyd retired two years later.

    Both described themselves as an effective team.

    "We worked 100 murders together, and we closed the case on all but three," Mr. Sims recalled. "We filed on one of the three, but he ran away to Mexico before we could catch him."

    All in all, Mr. Boyd said, the weekend of Nov. 22-24, 1963, was a memorable time – and not just at work.

    On his way home that Friday night, a car abruptly stopped in front of him on Tyler Street. Three men jumped out and tried to rob him.

    FILE 1963/BILL WINFREY/DMN Sonny Boyd was with Lee Harvey Oswald for the famous raised-fist picture and doubts the gesture meant anything. Mr. Boyd pulled a gun. One man ran away, but the detective handcuffed the other two, drove them to a telephone booth on West Jefferson Boulevard and called for police to come by and pick them up.

    As he was coming home that Sunday morning, a car carrying out-of-towners tried to make a U-turn on West Jefferson and rear-ended him.

    "A lot of things happened that weekend," he recalled.
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    WOW! 44 years ago!
    I remember when this happened, I didn't believe the Warren Commission then and I don't believe it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainDog
    WOW! 44 years ago!
    I remember when this happened, I didn't believe the Warren Commission then and I don't believe it now.
    I didn't even bother to read this story. Lee Oswald was set up.

    Only shot from behind huh? My eye! Warning, this is graphic. One thing to note here. In the very first frame, Jackie is comforting him as he appears to be forwardly hunched over from ALREADY being shot from behind. Then, well see for yourself. This is the way it appears to me. Again, warning, this is graphic.
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    http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
    On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.

    Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.

    Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 "Silver Certificates" were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the "powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance". With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:

    1) war (Viet Nam); and,

    2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.

    In my eyes, its the bankers who have killed JFK and how will they ever convince me otherwise?
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    I've read stuff like that before Rockfish, wheather this is the reason he was killed I really don't know but it's intersting to note that one other President had done this before and that was Lincoln.
    I can remember seeing some of the notes JFK allowed to be printed, on the top it was red and the words United States treasury Note was printed, wish I had thought to keep some cause they sure weren't out there long.
    Also in the late 90's Gerald Ford who served on the Warren Commission came out and said they had to move an intrance wound on paper several inches to make their magic buller theory work.
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    I still have a $5 silver note.
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    As a little side note to this thread, I read that the Ron Paul mint was raided and all of the Ron Paul money was confiscated.

    It was a mint that made collectible coins like the Franklin Mint and others.

    http://news.monstersandcritics.com/u...r_dollar_maker

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    As conntoversial as this sounds.......I believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, and there was no other shooter. I have read the entire Warren Commission Report -- 800+ pages. I agree the Warren Report is flawed, but mainly because it incompletely investigated the possibility that Cuba was behind Oswald. Johnson wanted to avoid WWIII and RFK wanted to save his brothers image, together they worked to cover-up JFK's role in the assassination attempts on Castro and invasion plans for Cuba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainDog
    I've read stuff like that before Rockfish, wheather this is the reason he was killed I really don't know but it's intersting to note that one other President had done this before and that was Lincoln.
    I can remember seeing some of the notes JFK allowed to be printed, on the top it was red and the words United States treasury Note was printed, wish I had thought to keep some cause they sure weren't out there long.
    Also in the late 90's Gerald Ford who served on the Warren Commission came out and said they had to move an intrance wound on paper several inches to make their magic buller theory work.
    Actually, a I heard a bombshell of a confession that was made in a recording by E. Howard Hunt this past spring on the A. Jones radio show:

    Former CIA agent, Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt names the men who killed Kennedy

    Paul Joseph Watson
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    Monday, April 30, 2007

    The "deathbed confession" audio tape in which former CIA agent and Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt admits he was approached to be part of a CIA assassination team to kill JFK was aired this weekend - an astounding development that has gone completely ignored by the establishment media.

    Saint John Hunt, son of E. Howard Hunt, appeared on the nationally syndicated Coast to Coast Live radio show on Saturday night to discuss the revelations contained in the tape.

    Hunt said that his father had mailed cassette the tape to him alone in January 2004 and asked that it be released after his death. The tape was originally 20 minutes long but was edited down to four and a half minutes for the Coast to Coast broadcast. Hunt promises that the whole tape will be uploaded soon at his website. http://www.saintjohnhunt.com/

    E. Howard Hunt names numerous individuals with both direct and indirect CIA connections as having played a role in the assassination of Kennedy, while describing himself as a "bench warmer" in the plot. Saint John Hunt agreed that the use of this term indicates that Hunt was willing to play a larger role in the murder conspiracy had he been required.

    Hunt alleges on the tape that then Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the planning of the assassination and in the cover-up, stating that LBJ, "Had an almost maniacal urge to become president, he regarded JFK as an obstacle to achieving that."

    Asked if his father followed the conspiracy theories into the Kennedy assassination, Saint John said the elder Hunt did follow the work of AJ Weberman, a New York freelance writer, who in the early 70's first accused Hunt of being one of three bums who were arrested in Dealy Plaza. The so-called bums were interrogated and later released by authorities shortly after the assassination. Weberman, one of the founders of the Youth International Party, the Vippies, published photographs of the tramps and found that two of them bore striking similarities to Hunt and Frank Sturgis, also named by Hunt in the tape as having been played a role in the assassination conspiracy.

    Saint John Hunt said that shortly before his death, his father had felt "deeply conflicted and deeply remorseful" that he didn't blow the whistle on the plot at the time and prevent the assassination, but that everyone in the government hated Kennedy and wanted him gone in one way or another. Kennedy's promise to "shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter the remnants to the wind" was being carried out and this infuriated almost everyone at the agency.

    Hunt also said that his mother's death in a December 8, 1972 plane crash in Chicago was suspicious and that there was evidence of a White House cover-up surrounding the circumstances of the alleged accident.

    Investigators discovered $10,000 dollars in her luggage and Hunt alleged that his mother traveled around the country using Nixon campaign money to payoff the families of the Watergate burglars to keep them quiet about the involvement of the Nixon White House in the Watergate break-in and cover-up....

    For more of the article and audio:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... ession.htm

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    Check out the History Channel right NOW......They are doing a special on the Kennedy assassination. I will probably be asleep by the time they air it, but they are going to show Dale Meyer's computer recreation of the Zapruder Film, which plots the trajectory based on the film and the autopsy evidence......which confirms the "magic" bullet theory. Check it out, awesome work. If you miss it, I can link to Meyer's site.
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