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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainDog
    I didn't believe the magic bullet theory when it happened.
    Neither does Governor Connolly, who was hit by the supposed "magic bullet".

    Almost all Americans think it was a conspiracy, the unanswered questions are by who, and how many gunmen were there? I think at least 2, maybe 3 gunmen.
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    Here is an excellent computer recreation of the single bullet that hit both Conally and Kennedy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSBXW1-VGmM&NR=1

    I have not seen any counter theory that comes close to this in its detail, accuracy, and consistency.

    No trajectory path plotted.

    No contemporaneous eye witness accounts.

    No weapon.

    No bullet, or bullet fragments.

    There are just questions raised about the single bullet theory, without any comprehendable alternative for the source of the shots. In fact, the questions raised about the single bullet theory have been answered time and again by science. If you really study the ballistics, the medical evidence, what the experts and scientists have said about it, then it is hard for any unbiased researcher to not conclude that the shots all originated from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, and that the gunman was Oswald.
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    Senator Yarborough who was in the motorcade didn't belive the lone gunman theory either.

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    The following video: Zapruder Film (is hard to watch) and asked the question: where did the final shot come from?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66__vymfPA


    Excellent sources of information refuting the Warren Commision:

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    I had heard that he was killed becasue he wanted to do real change, like fix the Fed. I remember also, a few years back, some trials said that he was killed by someone who was hiding inone of the flood control holes on the side of the streets.

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    When the Zapruder film is slowed down and enhanced, it is clear that Kennedy's head moves forward (when the bullet entered) before the rearward movement (when it exited). The rearward movement could have been from what Nobel Prize winning physicist called "the jet effect." The head snapping back in the direction of the shot was also replicated in lab tests on mock human skulls by Army Wounds and Ballistics expert Dr. John Lattimer. It also could have been a nueromuslular reaction.

    When you watch the Zapruder film pay close attention to the back of Kennedy's head. While it is clear that the side of Kennedy's head opens up, the back remains clean. There was no rear exit wound. The shot could not have come from the front.

    Here is a great source of info on the lone gunman theory:

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
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    I agree it would seem Kennedy's fatal shot came from the rear, but I still don't buy the lone gunman theory. There is a gap of about 1 second between the first shot that hits Kennedy in the neck, and the shot that hit Connolly.

    Also nobody can shoot three shots ACCURATELY at a moving target in six seconds, because after each shot you not only have to work the bolt to reload, but also because recoil knocks your gun off target, you have to additionally re-aquire your target, track it, then fire. That process takes more than three seconds. I bet you couldn't even do it for a stationary target and shoot a 3 inch group.
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    The questions I have are mainly how the motorcade and the president's protection from Secret Service Agents and the motorcycle police escorts were set up. There's just too much that is inconsistent with standard procedure as laid out in this film short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QAWiIRg ... re=related

    Also the forensic pathologist they interviewed in the series The Men Who Killed Kennedy brings up the botched autopsy, the loss of evidence like the remainder of the president's brain vanishing, and the slides that were taken that are used to determine the bullet[s] tragectories. And a lot of other things that occurred that were outside of standard pathology proceedure for an autopsy. And it is obvious the man knows what he's talking about, as he also explains how quickly a judge would dismiss a case if any other murder were treated the same way. My ex-wife concurred with what he said, since she worked at the D.A's Office when we watched the documentary. All she said was there was something there that somebody didn't want the public to know.

    Whether Oswald did it or not, who knows, but when you watch the footage of him first being interviewed by the reporters, and they ask him if he knows what he's being charged with, and he responds that he is being charged with shooting a police officer, and a reporter says he's [Oswald] being charged with shooting the president, Oswald's whole personality changes from being nervously talkative, to stone cold disbelief, and is visibly shaken by the statement from the newsman.

    Do I know what happenned there? No. I wasn't there. But as the gentleman in the film says, when they turned from Houston St, onto Elm St., and slowed down as they did, the president was openned up to a field of fire from 3 sides. The front the back and the sides, and that is how he was killed. In a classic crossfire set up, according to the Secret Service Manual of the time on assassinations.

    Will we ever know the answers? I doubt it. If the real truth came out as to who was behind it, it would cause the country to go into self destruct mode. Or the people would revolt and have another Boston Tea Party. So to protect those who had the motive[s] it is better that plausable evidence disappear, and the dirt gets swept under the rug.

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    From the first link I provided, in the computer recreation of the Zapruder film, it seems that Kennedy and Connally simultaneously react to the second shot. The six second time frame is inaccurate. As I said, the Warren Commission did favor that theory based on the idea that the first shot would not be the missed one. Further analysis of the Zapruder film, and the ear-witness testimony place the timing at 3 shots in 8 seconds.

    As far as the pathologist in The Men who Killed Kennedy, it is true that he has raised many questions. But even he agreed with the conclusions of the House Select Committee on asassination that all of the shots that hit Kennedy/Connally came from the snipers nest. Close aids to RFK, archive employees and the Select Committee all agreed that RFK took JFK's brain and slides from the archives to bury it with Kennedy's body when it was reinturned in 1967.

    It is also very important to understant that he is the only pathologist on the Select Committee that believes that there were more than one gunman. The only one. Every other pathologist on the Select Committee confirmed the Warren Commission's conclusions. The documentary did not include their testimony. Dr. Michael Baden was on the committee, he is a famous pathologist who is frequently on TV. He completely comfirms the Warren Commission's conclusions.

    As far as the Sectret Service goes, I'll have to look into it. I have not seen any evidence that they were not following protocall. I do know that the Warren Commission concluded that changes were needed for the president to be better protected. Protocall changed after the assassination, for obvious reasons.
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    A Government of cover ups is what we have. And the elected officials are mostly traitors. I am ready to see the file on ET.
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