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    'Jumah DNC Speaker: "Muslims Visited America Prior to Clumbus, Muslim Guided Columbus

    Jumah at the DNC’ Speaker: ‘Muslims Visited America Prior to Columbus’ & ‘It Was a Muslim’ Who Guided Him to the ‘New World’


    • Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:27pm by Erica Ritz



      The Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA) predicted that roughly 20,000 people would participate in its “Jumah at the DNC” open-air prayer ceremony Friday, but, according to reports, only a few hundred showed up.

    That does not mean, however, that it was completely devoid of noteworthy activity.
    During his comments at the prayer service, BIMA spokesman Jibril Hough reportedly claimed that Muslims reached the Americas before Christopher Columbus.
    He stated, according to the Washington Times: “Muslims visited America prior to Columbus…It was a Muslim who guided Columbus on his voyage to the new world.”
    Worshipers gather for outdoor "Jumah" prayers at Marshall Park in Charlotte, N.C., on Friday. (Photo: Dwane Gross via NBC News)

    Breitbart adds that BIMA is upsetting some Native Americans for claiming to be “indigenous,” including a passage from Miki Booth at the Western Center for Journalism:
    Native Americans are very angry to learn that Muslims in the United States of America are being touted as “indigenous”, a complete falsehood. The fact is, American Indians are the indigenous people of North America, as Hawai’ians are to Hawai’i and the Aborigine to Australia. Organizations like BIMA marginalize native Americans in favor of Muslims, and Indians are not pleased.
    In one of the photos of the event, where the men stand in front of the women to pray, one attendee is seemingly wearing a Yasser Arafat-style American flag scarf around his neck.
    The event’s leaders have come under fire by other Muslims for being radical and, in the words of Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, wanting “to replace the US Constitution with the Quran.”
    The event was quietly removed from the “Charlotte in 2012” page last week after its leaders’ radical connections were revealed, prompting an angry response from BIMA spokesperson Jibril Hough.

    “This is about caving in to fear and ignorance,” he claimed after a senior Host Committee official told NBC the event was determined to be not “appropriate and relevant.”



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    Muslims Visited America Prior to Columbus’ & ‘It Was a Muslim’ Who Guided Him to the ‘New World’
    I could believe this. Columbus was not trying to find a "new world", he was looking for a sea route to India, and he thought he had found it (hence the term 'Indian" has been indelibly ascribed to Native Americans). If he was relying on a Muslim as a guide then the Muslim did not have any better idea where he was going than Columbus did. And how come we don't have the Muslim's name furnished? If BIMA continues to pursue this nonsense, then maybe it should sponsor a "Name the Muslim" contest. My entry is "Wrong Way Abdul".
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    Government Group Proceeds With 2-Hour Islamic ‘Jumah’ Prayers ‘at the DNC’ (And You Won‘t Believe Who’s Invited)



    The event is being promoted on the official Charlottein2012.com page*

    Watch the promotional video via the Bureau of Muslim Affairs, which claims it is hosting the event “at the Democratic National Convention.”
    The first two minutes are rather dry, but around 2:04 a muezzin sings the call to prayer with an American flag background, and the video “picks up” considerably:




    Up to 20,000 people are expected to attend the Friday prayers and Jibril Hough, a spokesman for the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), said its purpose is to hold political parties accountable for the issues faced by Muslim-Americans.
    In particular, the event will target the Patriot Act, the NYPD, the National Defense Authorization Act, and anti-Shariah sentiment.
    (Photo: Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs)

    And while Muslim-Americans undeniably face distinct challenges, those who are well-informed on the dangers of radical Islam are expressing their doubts.
    Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a devout Muslim and the Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, wrote:
    The leaders of this event – Jibril Hough and Imam Siraj Wahhaj [are not] moderates. They are radicals. These individuals embrace Islamist supremacy and have demonstrated support for radical ideologies.

    A quick Google search by the DNC would have shown them that Hough and Wahhaj are leaders in the separatist American Islamist movement. While they may be able to get a few thousand Muslims to attend the event, they are NOT going to be mainstream Muslims. Most will likely come from Hough and Wahhaj’s radical networks that have long been entrenched in the Charlotte area. Make no mistake they are part of the Islamist movement.
    [...]
    Their jummah (group) prayer is…about empowering their Islamist and MB sympathetic groups into the very fabric of the political system so that Americans become anesthetized. We need American Muslims to speak up and marginalize these radicals. The DNC needs to understand and reject them because of their radical history and ideas.
    (Photo: Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs)

    The mosque of Jibril Hough, mentioned by Dr. Jasser, is owned by the North American Islamic Trust, which was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial as one of the entities “who are and/or were members of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood.”
    Siraj Wahhaj, the “Grand Imam” for Jumah at the DNC, is often considered a “moderate” because he was the first Muslim to give an invocation in the U.S. Congress, but as Robert Spencer notes, he has a number of troubling ties to dangerous radicals. In the early 1990′s the man reportedly sponsored talks by “the Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel-Rahman in New York and New Jersey mosques, and told his followers that the United States will fall unless it “accepts the Islamic agenda.”
    Wahhaj elaborated, according to bestselling author Brigitte Gabriel, to say: “If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.”
    He continued: “Take my word. If 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us.”
    When an imam like Siraj Wahhaj says “it his duty and our duty as Muslims to replace the US Constitution with the Quran…we need to speak up!” Dr. Jasser reiterated in response, adding that Americans “should be concerned” if this is who the DNC is “consorting with.”
    Robert Spencer speculates that the Democrat National Committee is simply so “in thrall to multiculturalism” that “few, if any” are even aware of the radical connections.
    “To raise any concerns about such a speaker would be ‘Islamophobic,’ violating every rule of the anti-American, anti-Western ethos that prevails among so many Democrats today,” Spencer concluded.
    *The “Charlotte in 2012” page was established by the city of Charlotte to help coordinate the DNC. It advertises itself as “the official location for all the latest news, information and ways to get involved.” It is also the official website for the host committee. Additionally, all events listed on the site have to go through an approval process.

    UPDATE:
    Though Cardinal Dolan was originally not going to speak at the DNC, on Monday it was announced that he will now be giving the closing prayer.
    Read the full story, here.

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    I want to hear Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her chorus tell me about the RNC war on women. Sharia law is not female friendly.

    I really wonder if she has ever shut mouth long enough to hear anthing.. JMO
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    Got this in an email a while back and find it fitting with the subject of this thread....

    Have you ever seen a Muslim hospital?

    Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

    Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

    Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

    Have you seen Muslims, shaken hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

    Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?

    Have your seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life ????

    The answer is no, you did not. Just ask yourself WHY ???

    Barack Obama,
    during his Cairo speech, said:
    "I know, too, that Islam has always been a part
    of America 's history."

    AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE
    Dear Mr. Obama:

    Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed?
    Funny, I thought they were
    Native American Indians.

    Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day?
    Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and
    Native American Indians.

    Can you show me one Muslim signature on the: United States Constitution?
    Declaration of Independence ?
    Bill of Rights?
    Didn't think so.
    Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England?
    No.
    Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ?
    No, they did not.
    In fact, Muslims to this day are
    still the largest traffickers in human slavery.
    Your own half-brother, a devout
    Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even
    though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as "pug nosed slaves."
    Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family's "rich Islamic heritage," doesn't it Mr. Obama?
    Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country?
    Not present.
    There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr.
    or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.
    Where were Muslims during this country's
    Woman's Suffrage era?
    Again, not present.
    In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture
    So much so, that often they are beaten for
    not wearing the 'hajib' or
    for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband.
    Yep, the Muslims are all for women's rights,
    aren't they?
    Where were Muslims during World War II?
    They were aligned with Adolf Hitler.
    The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and
    accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews.
    Finally, Mr. Obama,
    where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001?
    If they weren't flying planes into
    the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or
    a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000
    people on our own soil, they were rejoicing
    in the Middle East.
    No one can dispute the pictures
    shown from all parts of the Muslim world
    celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news networks that day.
    Strangely, the very "moderate" Muslims
    who's asses you bent over backwards to kiss in
    Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were
    stone cold silent post 9-11.
    To many Americans,
    their silence has meant approval
    for the acts of that day.
    And THAT, Mr. Obama,
    is the "rich heritage" Muslims have here
    in America...
    Oh, I'm sorry, I
    forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates.
    They were Muslims.
    And now we can add November 5, 2009 -
    the slaughter of American soldiers at
    Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor
    and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be
    counseling soldiers returning from battle in
    Iraq and Afghanistan.
    That, Mr. Obama
    is the "Muslim heritage" in America

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    Muslims Try to Rewrite Themselves Into America’s History

    posted on September 3, 2012 by Tad Cronn


    The Jumah at the DNC event went off Friday without a hitch, but the Democratic leadership and liberal media are still trying to squirm out of acknowledging that the DNC ever sanctioned the program, which featured a number of Islamist extremists.
    Although there is a lot of spin surrounding the event, the fact remains that the leaders of the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs claim the DNC reached out to them and invited their group to host the two-hour opening event Friday, as well as the officially sanctioned Islamic Regal Dinner that night.
    The event appeared on the official Charlotte in 2012 website until it was removed after the radical nature of BIMA got out. The event was attended by hundreds, rather than the 20,000 predicted.
    Among the speakers at the event were a retired Muslim Army chaplain who was charged with sedition but not prosecuted, and an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
    But the issue that really rankles many people is BIMA’s support of theories about the Muslim influence on American history, including the notion that a Muslim crew of explorers sailed up the Mississippi River in the 12th century and established a colony that entitles Muslims to call themselves indigenous Americans.
    Real Native Americans are not pleased.
    During his remarks at the Jumah event, BIMA spokesman Jibril Hough said not only did Muslims visit America first, but it was a Muslim who led Columbus on his famous voyage of discovery.
    The claim is based on a Chinese artifact known as the “Sung Document” that purportedly reports on the voyage of a Muslim crew from T’o-Pan-ti to Mu-Lan-pi, which took 100 days. The main problem with the theory is that no one knows with any certainty where either of those lands is. BIMA claims Mu-Lan-pi is America, but many scholars believe it to be Spain. Also, the document mentions pomegranates being found, but they were not introduced to the Americas until the 18th century by the Spanish.
    When Columbus set sail to find the Indies, he had high hopes of reaching Asia, but his travel plan was based on maps by the ancient Greek scientist Ptolemy, who had miscalculated that the Earth was a much smaller circumference than in reality.
    (A side note: That famous story about arguments by clerics that Columbus would fall off the edge of the world because it was flat is bunkum, apparently cooked up by Washington Irving and promoted by later atheist writers. Even medieval church scholars were aware of Greek mathematics and knew the world was round. The argument against Columbus’ voyage was that some clerics felt he should have used the calculations by Eratosthenes, who showed the world to be much larger than Ptolemy calculated. Eratosthenes was only off by a couple of hundred miles, so the clergy in this case were correct.)

    There are other theories, some more likely, some highly improbable, about explorers discovering America before Columbus, including the adventures of the Chinese Admiral Zheng He in 1421 and the Vikings led by Leif Erickson. (Vikings and their dragon boats could account for Aztec legends of blond-haired gods and flying serpents.)
    There also may be evidence of Polynesian, Japanese and even Roman presence in ancient America. One of my favorite old stories is about the Irish monk St. Brendan and the Welsh Prince Madoc landing in Mobile Bay, Alabama, in 1170 A.D., a tale that was actually used to press British claims to the East Coast.
    BIMA, however, seems to be one of those historical revisionist groups that is trying to write Islam into parts of history where it never existed and exaggerate its influence where it did.
    If Muslims truly want credit for the role they played in the opening of America to Europe, then they just need to look at the historic record.
    Continued Muslim aggression in the Mideast and southern Mediterranean in the 15th century made trade with Asia via the normal land routes difficult. This inspired people like Prince Henry the Navigator to begin looking for new trade routes that would allow them to circumvent Muslim bandits and pirates.
    In 1453, the fall of Constantinople to Muslim aggressors ended the last vestiges of the Roman Empire and blocked major trade routes to India and Asia. In 1492, less than 40 years later, Columbus set sail to find a route to the Indies, during which he literally bumped into the Americas.
    If Muslims weren’t historically such a violent people, Columbus might not have ever set sail.
    So it’s safe to say that the land of the free is indirectly the result of Muslim barbarity. BIMA and their DNC collaborators can own that.


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