Thread: Let The Revolution Begin

Originally Posted by Judy

Right, education enterprises should not be a monopoly at all. There should be 300 and 400 person schools all over the place where people can enroll their students, free of districts or neighborhood boundaries. It should replicate our free enterprise system of accomplishment. There should be competition among schools within in the same neighborhood, that way they compete with each other for student enrollment, based on their costs and performance, services and benefits, attitudes, convenience, grades, test scores, job placement, etc., etc., etc.

What school you go to should be the one you and your parents want you to go to, not where you live. Right? How can we be a nation of freedom and liberty when we can't even pick what school we go to?! In this day and age, why would where you're forced to go to school be where you live instead of where your parents work so they can take you school and pick you up or be within a few minutes of getting to you if you need them? We're been restricted because of who is paying for it. When we privatize, that all changes and cuts us free. Why should what kind of publicly funded or assisted school you attend be based on the real estate values of your home? Because of who pays for it. See private business knows how to serve all neighborhoods with the basics and when they invest, everyone gets the same thing at basically the same cost.

Government doesn't know how to do this. That's why we have beautiful gorgeous schools and decrepit ugly schools, when schools should all be pleasant, well-built, attractive, functional schools. Businesses know how to do this. Not in all these years have governments figured out how to do this.

Pass the FairTax, which exempts education because it's considered a necessity of production, which of course it is, encourage states and counties/municipalies to get rid of their property taxes, the bulk of which is for funding schools, get rid of it all, then pool from the FairTax collections enough for modest vouchers, use the Christian business model they use for their schools, minus the "religion" part, use that amount for the vouchers which average around $4,000 per student instead of the $11,000 government method, and get this show on the road!! That funds the basics, if you want more, you're free to charge additional tuition depending on your market and location. You can sell stock to raise capital, issue long term corporate bonds for construction, franchise nationwide, all the tools business and industry use to fund their grand enterprises.

And get rid of Kindergarten. I didn't go to Kindergarten. I graduated top of my class, got a 4 year academic scholarship to the big university based on grades and test scores and have never missed it a day in my life, so, trust me, if I didn't need Kindergarten, no one does. A complete waste of money and children's childhood.

You know Finland, which is rated at the top of education achievement in the world, ranks very high, they don't start students to school until they're 7. They also provide free lunch to everyone. I totally support the free lunch for everyone, it should be included either in the fees you pay upfront or in the voucher cost, it's just a few hundred dollars and look all the time, hassle and bureaucracy you save, more than pays for itself. I'd support including breakfast, too. Most families Mom and Dad work so this would be a big help and should be considered as part of voucher cost as well. Both meals might raise the voucher cost to $4,800 or $5,000 but look what you get for it? Good nutrition and peace of mind, less stress, happy students anxious to get to school for yummy breakfast, happy parents ... well worth the money.

You're right!

I want to start really small, so the funding will have a direct impact. Each "grade" should have ~50 students in four classrooms.

Very small and student centered.

Originally Posted by Boomslang

You're right!

I want to start really small, so the funding will have a direct impact. Each "grade" should have ~50 students in four classrooms.

Very small and student centered.

My school class had 45 to 47 students in each of 3 first grade classes and we all made it to graduation with 30% plus headed off to college, except for 1 girl who got pregnant when she was 14 and dropped out to get married, but later after 3 kids with her same husband, she got her GED, went to college, got her bachelors in education and then her masters degree. We were not an affluent area, our county was the 3rd poorest county out of 114 counties based on property evaluations in the whole state.

You know there's this little saying about history, that if you don't learn from it you're doomed to repeat it, but there's a another side to that as well, because if you don't know your history, you might not know the things you want and need to repeat either. This small classroom size thing is not realistic preparation for making it. Too much individual attention, not enough independence and self-reliance, not enough students to have proper measurements, proper competition, proper social interaction. One of the more important concepts of our country is one among many and from many, one. How can young people learn that when they're one among so few? Just something for you to think about.

I know your concept for your school is something different than mainstream education of the masses, but there are certain elements of education whether special or conventional that all children should receive, which we'll just call for lack of better terms, the basics or fundamentals and classroom size of one of those. I've opposed this small classroom size since it was first proposed, and my objectiont was based on my own personal experience and the fantastic results of my large classes that benefited everyone from students to teachers, parents and the public paying for it.

Just my two cents opinion and something to think about.

Originally Posted by MW

LMFAO!!!!!

Originally Posted by Judy

My school class had 45 to 47 students in each of 3 first grade classes and we all made it to graduation with 30% plus headed off to college, except for 1 girl who got pregnant when she was 14 and dropped out to get married, but later after 3 kids with her same husband, she got her GED, went to college, got her bachelors in education and then her masters degree. We were not an affluent area, our county was the 3rd poorest county out of 114 counties based on property evaluations in the whole state.

You know there's this little saying about history, that if you don't learn from it you're doomed to repeat it, but there's a another side to that as well, because if you don't know your history, you might not know the things you want and need to repeat either. This small classroom size thing is not realistic preparation for making it. Too much individual attention, not enough independence and self-reliance, not enough students to have proper measurements, proper competition, proper social interaction. One of the more important concepts of our country is one among many and from many, one. How can young people learn that when they're one among so few? Just something for you to think about.

I know your concept for your school is something different than mainstream education of the masses, but there are certain elements of education whether special or conventional that all children should receive, which we'll just call for lack of better terms, the basics or fundamentals and classroom size of one of those. I've opposed this small classroom size since it was first proposed, and my objectiont was based on my own personal experience and the fantastic results of my large classes that benefited everyone from students to teachers, parents and the public paying for it.

Just my two cents opinion and something to think about.

Thanks Judy for helping me think about this difficult task that I want to accomplish.

I just thought about the KKK and their supporters not being too happy with such a plan. Up goes the insurance! They are so uncivilized that they would try to harm 1st and 2nd grade children.

I just thought about that!

I was just going to start with 1st grade and add a grade every year unti 5th.

I'm not going to start big but the way kids are educated will be a revolution in learning.

Is that too big of a dream to dream?

No, not at all. I just don't want you to lose your money.

Thomas Sankara was a Marxist Socialist.

Originally Posted by Newmexican

Thomas Sankara was a Marxist Socialist.

OK. I'm giving him the "TJ Pardon".

Surely Sankara wasn't perfect and furthermore, in my mind being a slaveholder is much worse than
political affiliation.

Originally Posted by Boomslang

OK. I'm giving him the "TJ Pardon".

Surely Sankara wasn't perfect and furthermore, in my mind being a slaveholder is much worse than
political affiliation.

But you didn't give Thomas Jefferson and pardon.

I think anybody who puts their children in Boomslang's care should be charged with child endangerment. Considering his heroes and the things he posts, it would be pure brainwashing. He's already got Judy eating out of his hand.