Thread: Is McCain a NATURAL born citizen?

I never said he was not a US citizen just not a natural born citizen...let me ask this should an anchor baby be eligible to become president, they are natural born? This is a precident that needs clarification...and again our constitution states only a natural born citizen can be eligible to be president, and our state dept says military bases are not natural born, they are born abroad, but still citizens...

If we want to make an acception shouldn't we ammend the constitution?

Originally Posted by Dixie

Consider this. Is a US military base abroad, considered US occupied territory? Like an Embassy... If a person is born on said base, wouldn't that be the same as being born in the US?

Dixie

No. If, for example, a Japanese person gives birth at a US Base in Japan, that baby is not a US citizen. Also, if the child of a foreign diplomat is born in the US, they are not citizens either.

Originally Posted by rmsings

I never said he was not a US citizen just not a natural born citizen...let me ask this should an anchor baby be eligible to become president, they are natural born? This is a precident that needs clarification...and again our constitution states only a natural born citizen can be eligible to be president, and our state dept says military bases are not natural born, they are born abroad, but still citizens...

If we want to make an acception shouldn't we ammend the constitution?

He is a natural born citizen. There are only two types of citizens - natural born, and naturalized. Naturalized citizens have previously been citizens of other nations.

Again, the base isn't the factor. He could have been born on Mars, but if his parents were citizens, he would be a natural born citizen.

There is another related thread.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-101800-mccain.html+panama

AFTER ENCOURAGING PANAMA'S INDEPENDENCE from Colombia, the U.S. signed a treaty in 1903 that gave it the rights to build and operate the canal for perpetuity. The agreement also gave the U.S. the right to govern the 10-mile wide, 40-mile long strip of land around the canal, called the Panama Canal Zone.

Some dispute the treaty status of the Panama Canal as a means of not qualifying for natural born as one born on a military base in a foreign country is.

An ancestor of mine was born at sea aboard a ship while immigrating.
Her birthplace was always listed at sea without any citizenship status even from the coutry her parents immigrated from. She became a naturalized US citizen.

This comes right off the USCIS web site defining a US Citizen:

Most people become U.S. citizens in one of two ways:

*By birth, either within the territory of the United States or to U.S. citizen parents, or
*By Naturalization.

I don't like McCain, but trying to say his can't run for president because he war born to two US Citizen military parents while apparently serving their country on a foreign land on a US Military base is silly.

Here is a document from a US Embassy:
http://dhaka.usembassy.gov/uploads/imag ... Mar_05.pdf

Instead of getting ALL HOT and BOTHERED about McCain's citizenship, let's do something CONSTRUCTIVE like RESCINDING American citizenship for US-born children of ILLEGALS!

Amen Brother!