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    Pharm companies are not at all interested in curing anything. That would stop the money machine. And Crocket is correct, they more than likely are the cause of alot of health issues we have today. There are quite a few cancers that 50 to 100 years ago were unheard of. Percentage wise the incidence of all cancers has skyrocketed over the past 50 to 100 years along with many other diseases. Things that make you go hmmmm.

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    Nitty, you are so right. Pharmaceuticals is a huge business. They only want to improve people's health at best. A cure would be death to the almighty dollar. Look at how much more we pay for drugs in comparison to other countries, it is shameful. Does anyone know if they use organs from sick people? That is another big business that they would not want to end. I am an organ donor on my DL, makes me rethink that though.
    Neese, it is odd you asked this question about organ donation from sick pts, I was reading this article just the other day, I will post it here for you, funny it is a disease we have all discussed here, that is coming from Mexico, here is the report.

    The Food and Drug Administration yesterday approved a test to screen donated blood and organs for Chagas disease, an infection common in parts of Latin America.

    Infections traceable to transfusions or transplants are extremely rare, with only a dozen documented in North America in the past two decades. However, the number of blood donors testing positive for Chagas is climbing -- presumably a reflection of the growing number of Latin America natives in the donor pool.

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    Since 1987, there have been seven recorded cases of Chagas disease acquired through blood products -- five in the United States and two in Canada. There have been five transmissions through organ donation.

    The parasite Trypanosoma cruzi, which causes Chagas disease, is carried by about 11 million people in Mexico, Central America and parts of South America. Most people have no symptoms after a short period of acute infection. In 20 to 40 percent, complications develop, often decades later.

    Worldwide, Chagas disease causes about 50,000 deaths a year, mostly from congestive heart failure and heart arrhythmias.

    The test will add $5 to $10 to the cost of screening donated blood. Blood is already tested for syphilis, HIV-1, HIV-2, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, and West Nile virus.

    Annually, there are about 15.3 million whole blood donations and 1.2 million platelet donations in the United States.

    Drugs taken by transplant recipients to prevent organ rejection make it more likely for them to develop symptoms of Chagas if they acquire the parasite.

    The prevalence of Chagas disease has been greatly reduced in Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. Public health efforts have focused on limiting exposure of people to the "kissing bug," an insect that hides in the cracks of poorly built houses and transmits the parasite through its bite.

    The test is made by Ortho-Clinical Diagnostics of Raritan, N.J.

    Data from blood centers in Southern California show that the number of units testing positive for Chagas rose from 1 per 9,900 in 1998 to 1 per 2,000 in 2006.

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    It just makes me wonder, Nitty, because there was an article, I think it was on Drudge, talking about Russian children being used for parts(?) And I was thinking if there is so much money in it, who is to say they aren't using bad parts. Even if the patient dies, "whomever" probably still gets paid, right? We live in a frightening world.

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    Yea, Neese it is a frightening world esp when it comes to organs being donated or bought for the right price I also remember reading or hearing on the news of several organ recipients dying because the all received their organs from one organ donor and that donor had rabies, that wasn't caught, yikes what a way to go! I also read that china were getting organs from their live prisoners, we need to hurry up and find a way to grow our own replacement organs before this program winds up costing well people their lives, I am sure in come cases this has already happened!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nittygritty
    Yea, Neese it is a frightening world esp when it comes to organs being donated or bought for the right price I also remember reading or hearing on the news of several organ recipients dying because the all received their organs from one organ donor and that donor had rabies, that wasn't caught, yikes what a way to go! I also read that china were getting organs from their live prisoners, we need to hurry up and find a way to grow our own replacement organs before this program winds up costing well people their lives, I am sure in come cases this has already happened!
    In some ways I think that stem cell will be helpful, but someone brought up the other day, the concerns about altered animals being used as a food source. That does concern me, and I wonder what the consequences of that might be. We will have to keep a close eye on, that is for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neese
    Quote Originally Posted by nittygritty
    Yea, Neese it is a frightening world esp when it comes to organs being donated or bought for the right price I also remember reading or hearing on the news of several organ recipients dying because the all received their organs from one organ donor and that donor had rabies, that wasn't caught, yikes what a way to go! I also read that china were getting organs from their live prisoners, we need to hurry up and find a way to grow our own replacement organs before this program winds up costing well people their lives, I am sure in come cases this has already happened!
    In some ways I think that stem cell will be helpful, but someone brought up the other day, the concerns about altered animals being used as a food source. That does concern me, and I wonder what the consequences of that might be. We will have to keep a close eye on, that is for sure.
    Well, you must understand that there is a huge difference between one's own stem cells (which is what all currently viable stem cell therapies are predicated upon) and fetal stem cells harvested from embryos and aborted children (which have so far provided NO viable therapies). People seem to be under the misapprehension that the only stem cells available are those harvested from fetuses, when in fact equally viable stem cells are available in the umbilical cord and within our own bodies right into adulthood. The difference is that adults have few undifferentiated stem cells. We do, however, have plenty of differentiated stem cells that can produce various cells from within a type (such as neural cells). Besides, foreign stem cells (such as those harvested from fetuses) carry all the usual problems of tissue type matching and potential autoimmune issues and rejection.

    The point is that there are plenty of viable and non-controversial stem cell therapies, and that there are unlikely to be any odd problems such as cancers arising from those therapies so long as they are confined to our own tissues.

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    You are right Crocket, I have never felt the breakthrough in stem cell research will come from the aborted fetuses, I am not in agreement with that approach, I think when the breakthrough comes it will be from our own stem cells, or even some kind of entirely different research.
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