Thread: MORE HOT WATER FOR SEBELIUS AND THE OBAMACARE CREW

Sebelius: ‘Men Often Do Need Maternity Care’

Wednesday, October 30, 2013

During Wednesday’s congressional testimony, a heated exchange occurred between Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius over one of the still-unexploded controversies in the ObamaCare law: the fact that ObamaCare’s so-called “robust” coverage is in reality your government forcing you to pay for coverage that includes expensive services millions will never need. Ellmers called Sebelius out specifically for forcing men to buy maternity coverage.




Published on Oct 30, 2013
Congresswoman Renee Ellmers questioned HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius during this morning's hearing of the Energy and Commerce Committee on the failed Obamacare exchange roll out and massive website problems.






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• "HE LIES!" Original Song Is More And More Relevant With Each Passing Day

• Posted by Jimmy Z on October 30, 2013 at 4:51pm

He Lies - Jimmy Z


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Nation In Distress



Here is a well written "Thank You" Letter to Obama By Lana Vestal.
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Dear President Obama,
I wanted to take a moment to say thank you for all you have done and are doing. You see I am a single Mom located in the very small town of Palmer,Texas. I live in a small rental house with my two children. I drive an older car that I pray daily runs just a little longer. I work at a mediocre job bringing home a much lower paycheck than you or your wife could even imagine living on. I have a lot of concerns about the new "Obamacare" along with the taxes being forced on us Americans and debts your are adding to our country. I have a few questions for you Mr. President.
Have you ever struggled to pay your bills? I have.
Have you ever sat and watched your children eat and you eat what was left on their plates when they were done, because there wasn't enough for you to eat to? I have.
Have you ever had to rob Peter to pay Paul, and it still not be enough? I have.
Have you ever been so sick that you needed to see a doctor and get medicine, but had no health insurance because it was to expensive? I have.
Have you ever had to tell your children no, when they asked for something they needed? I have.
Have you ever patched holes in pants, glued shoes, replaced zippers, because it was cheaper than buying new? I have. Have you ever had to put an item or two back at the grocery store, because you didn't have enough money? I have.
Have you ever cried yourself to sleep, because you had no clue how you were going to make ends meet? I have.

My questions could go on and on. I don't believe you have a clue what Americans are actually going through and honestly, I don't believe you care. Not everyone lives extravagantly. While your family takes expensive trips that cost more than most of us make in two-four years, there are so many of us that suffer. Yet, you are doing all you can to add to the suffering. I think you are a very selfish and cold hearted man, who does not care what is best for the people he was elected by (not by me) to represent, but more so out for the glory of your name attached to history. So thank you Mr. President, thank you for pushing those of us that are barely staying afloat completely under water and driving America into the ground. You have made your mark in history, as the absolute worst and most hated president of the United States. God have mercy on your soul!
Sincerely,
Yolanda Vestal
Average American

ObamaCare Requires Stealing to Operate

Posted on October 30, 2013 by Gary DeMar

Tax cheat[1] New York Democrat Charles Rangel claimed that no Republican voted for Social Security legislation when it came up for a vote in 1935:
“It should give you some small comfort to know that, historically, the Republican Party always fought vigorously against these types of programs,” Rangel said. “I don't think that one Republican voted for the Social Security Act.”

Rangel was trying to make the case that Republican opposition to ObamaCare is similar to opposition to Social Security when it was proposed.
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) corrected the aging congressman. “In fact, the 1935 law establishing Social Security passed out of the House with the support of 81 Republicans. Just 15 opposed it. On the Senate side, 16 Republicans voted for it, and five voted against.”
When Social Security was first implemented, more than 30 people paid into the system for every person receiving a benefit. The ratio is now around 3 to 1. These types of wealth transfer programs cannot be sustained. Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

There were good reasons to oppose Social Security. If the law had mandated that people should be forced to save a certain amount of their income for retirement, that would have been one thing. It would have been wrong, but it would be much different from the system we have today. Social Security was more than just a forced savings plan.


Not only was a certain percentage of money taken for Social Security payouts, but employers were forced to pay an equal amount. For example, if you make $50,000 a year, you are paying more than $3500 in Social Security payments each year. Your employer is also paying the same amount in your name. He has to do this for all his employees. He's forced to do it.

This means that the Social Security system is built on forced compliance and stolen money. Someone who’s self-employed (as I am) pays the full amount (more than 12%).

ObamaCare is being built the same way. Large groups of people are getting inexpensive insurance because of subsidies. USA Today reports that “[a]lmost half of young, single, uninsured adults in 34 states could pay $50 or less a month for insurance through the online exchanges after receiving subsidies, according to a study released by the Department of Health and Human Services on Monday.”

Congress also created a subsidy sweetheart deal for itself. Fortunately, the subsidy provision is being contested since it was never part of the original law.

Where is the subsidy money coming from? Other people! The money is being taken from some people and given to other people. In another world, such an action would be considered stealing. But when government goes it, it's called economic fairness.

In fact, it’s a giant vote-buying scheme. This is why Republicans can’t compete with Democrats. There are too many people who benefit from getting other people’s money.

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/13079/obamacare-requires-stealing-operate/#4woJj7Bv0ZPDTLWO.99


This coming from Rangel one of most "honest" politicians!!!!

Social Security History


This is an archival or historical document and may not reflect current policies or procedures.
1935 Congressional Debates on Social Security


Proposal Introduced in Congress
Shortly after the 74th Congress convened in January 1935, President Roosevelt sent his "Economic Security Bill" to Capitol Hill. The Administration proposal was transmitted to the Congress on January 17, 1935 and it was introduced that same day in the Senate by Senator Robert Wagner (D-NY) and in the House by Congressman Robert Doughton (D-NC) and David Lewis (D-MD). The bill was referred to Senate Finance Committee and the House Ways & Means Committee.

Hearings
The House Ways & Means Committee held hearings on the bill from January 21, 1935 through February 12, 1935. The Senate Finance Committee held hearings from January 22, 1935 through February 20, 1935.

Renamed the "Social Security Act"
During a Ways & Means meeting on March 1, 1935 Congressman Frank Buck (D-CA) made a motion to change the name of the bill to the "Social Security Act of 1935." The motion was carried by a voice vote of the Committee.

Committee Reports & Initial Passage
The Ways & Means Committee Report on the Social Security Act was introduced in the House on April 4, 1935 and debate began on April 11th. After several days of debate, the bill was passed in the House on April 19, 1935 by a vote of 372 yeas, 33 nays, 2 present, and 25 not voting. (This vote took place immediately followed a vote to recommit the bill to the Committee, which failed on a vote of Yea: 149; Nay: 253; Present: 1; and Not Voting: 29.)

The bill was reported out by the Senate Finance Committee on May 13, 1935 and introduced in the Senate on June 12th. The debate lasted until June 19th, when the Social Security Act was passed by a vote of 77 yeas, 6 nays, and 12 not voting.

Conference Report & Final Passage
Due to differences between the House and Senate versions, the legislation then went to a Conference Committee which met throughout the month of July. Final Congressional action on the bill took place when the Conference Report was passed by voice vote on August 8, 1935 in the House and on August 9th in the Senate.

Signed Into Law
On August 14, 1935 President Roosevelt signed the bill into law at a ceremony in the White House Cabinet Room.

Congressional Vote Totals By Party
HOUSE (4/19/35)	Democrats	Republicans	Farm Labor	Progressive/Other
Yes	284	81	1	6
No	15	15	2	1
Not Voting	20	4	0	1
Present		2	0	0
SENATE (6/19/35)	Democrats	Republicans	Farm Labor	Progressive
Yes	60	16	1
No	1	5	0	0
Not Voting	8	4	0	0

Recorded Vote Tallies on House & Senate Passage

House Vote- April 19, 1935

Senate Vote- June 19, 1935

http://www.ssa.gov/history/tally.html