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    MOSQUE AT 9/11 SITE IS A INTERNATIONAL MUSLIM TROPHY



    MASQUE AT 9/11 SITE IS A INTERNATIONAL MUSLIM TROPHY

    By Dr. Laurie Roth
    August 6, 2010
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    The syndromes and denial on this issue are endless! We are ‘Islamaphobic’ and simply intolerant to Religious freedom if we don’t support the ‘right’ for folks to build a multi story, massive, Islamic mosque at ground zero. We all have mental illness and racist/hate genes to Muslims and their rights. After all, the talking heads on this say it will be multi faith don’t they??? Oh….for a minute I forgot that incredible openness by the folks behind this. I REALLY look forward then to visiting the Christian church and Synagogue, proudly displayed also within this huge structure of Religious openness, but of course, that isn’t the plan and never was.

    Let me cut past all the rubbish on this. The plan of building the mosque at ground zero has nothing at all to do with Religious tolerance. It ONLY has to do with Muslims wanting an international trophy, celebrating the successful and vicious attack on evil America. No matter what the Islamic fundamentalists, politically correct media and confused masses say, the truth and money behind this madness is nothing but a betrayal, sell out and national insult to the American people.

    It is not ‘Islamaphobia’ for me to say that Muslim radicals, funded and supported by Al Kae Da and other Muslim relatives, worldwide, in and out of Mosques, schools and Government structures, murdered US citizens. Why did they do that? They had and they still have one motive……USaphobia, Christianaphobia and Jewaphobia! They want control of Western nations, an international caliphate to return again and the complete destruction of America and Israel or our enslavement.

    Along with the mental and moral illness of Islamic fundamentalism here and abroad, we have even worse with New York officials and decision makers who would dare even allow the discussion of building such a traitorous insult as a Muslim mosque at ground zero…..all because of political correctness and submission to endless manipulation and name calling from the left and Muslim groups. They wouldn’t dream of being ‘Islamaphobic or ‘intolerant,’ therefore they speed run into stupidville and complete, moronic denial.

    It is time if the masses of Muslims in this country are peace loving and decent, to protest putting this mosque at ground zero, period! Open your mouth to sanity and real loyalty to the issues at hand or once again put another stake in the heart of your lying statements of ‘pursuing peace’ and tolerance. It is obvious for even an immoral, bird brain that the only appropriate thing to put at ground zero is a respectful memorial, honoring the heroism, sacrifice and loss of this horrific attack. The last thing our nation needs is to be mocked by the triumphant and arrogant display of the Islamic trophy, built on our dead body residue at ground zero.

    We are not an Islamic nation and Sharia law DOES conflict with our constitution, Judeo/Christian values and traditions. Those who want to build something SO COMPLETELY inappropriate are acting only as a mirror reflecting the guts of the enemy to our country. They can all line up and kiss my Islamaphobic grits!

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    I believe their motives are also to 'gloat', and to send a sick message...These are sick and evil sub-humans we're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DearsisterAnise
    I believe their motives are also to 'gloat', and to send a sick message...These are sick and evil sub-humans we're talking about.
    They are but who are the more sick ones them or the ones who allowed it to pass!!!!


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    I hear you...And I wonder how much they (Landmark panel) were paid off to allow it.

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    A Muslim victim of 9/11: 'Build your mosque somewhere else'


    I have no grave site to visit, no place to bring my mother her favorite yellow flowers, no spot where I can hold my weary heart close to her. All I have is Ground Zero.
    This Story


    On the morning of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, I watched as terrorists slammed United Flight 175 into the South Tower of the World Trade Center, 18 minutes after their accomplices on another hijacked plane hit the North Tower. My mother was on the flight. I witnessed her murder on live television. I still cannot fully comprehend those images. In that moment, I died as well. I carry a hole in my heart that will never be filled.

    From the first memorial ceremonies I attended at Ground Zero, I have always been moved by the site; it means something to be close to where my mother may be buried, it brings some peace. That is why the prospect of a mosque near Ground Zero -- or a church or a synagogue or any religious or nationalistic monument or symbol -- troubles me.

    I was born in pre-revolutionary Iran. My family led a largely secular existence -- I did not attend a religious school, I never wore a headscarf -- but for us, as for anyone there, Islam was part of our heritage, our culture, our entire lives. Though I have nothing but contempt for the fanaticism that propelled the terrorists to carry out their murderous attacks on Sept. 11, I still have great respect for the faith.

    Yet, I worry that the construction of the Cordoba House Islamic cultural center near the World Trade Center site would not promote tolerance or understanding; I fear it would become a symbol of victory for militant Muslims around the world.

    When I am asked about the people who murdered my mother, I try to hold back my anger. I try to have a more spiritual perspective. I tell myself that perhaps what happened was meant to happen -- that it was my mother's destiny to perish this way. I try to take solace in the notion that her death has forced a much-needed conversation and reevaluation of the role of religion in the Muslim community, of the duties and obligations that the faith imposes and of its impact on the non-Muslim world.


    But a mosque near Ground Zero will not move this conversation forward. There were many mosques in the United States before Sept. 11; their mere existence did not bring cross-cultural understanding. The proposed center in New York may be heralded as a peace offering -- may genuinely seek to focus on "promoting integration, tolerance of difference and community cohesion through arts and culture," as its Web site declares -- but I fear that over time, it will cultivate a fundamentalist version of the Muslim faith, embracing those who share such beliefs and hating those who do not.

    The Sept. 11 attacks were the product of a hateful ideology that the perpetrators were willing to die for. They believed that all non-Muslims are infidels and that the duty of Muslims is to renounce them. I am not a theologian, but I know that the men who killed my mother carried this message in their hearts and minds. Obedient and dutiful soldiers, they marched toward their promised rewards in heaven with utter disregard for the value of the human beings they killed.

    I know Ground Zero is not mine alone; I must share this sanctuary with tourists, politicians, anyone who chooses to come, whatever their motivations or intentions. But a mosque nearby -- even a proposed one -- is already transforming the site from a sacred ground for reflection, so desperately needed by the families who lost loved ones, to a battleground for religious and political ideologies. So many people from different nationalities and religions were killed that day. This site should be a neutral place for all to come in peace and remember. I believe my mother would have thought so as well.

    The Iranian revolution compelled my family to flee to America when I was 12 years old. Yet, just over two decades later, the militant version of our faith caught up with us on a September morning. I still identify as a Muslim. When you are born into a Muslim family, there is no way around it, no choices available: You are Muslim. I am not ashamed of my faith, but I am ashamed of what is done in its name.

    On the day I left Ground Zero shortly after the tragedy, I felt that I was abandoning my mother. It was like being forced to leave the bedside of a loved one who is dying, knowing you will never see her again. But I felt the love and respect of all those around me there, and it reassured me that she was being left in good hands. Since I cannot visit New York as often as I would like, I at least want to know that my mother can rest in peace.

    I do not like harboring resentment or anger, but I do not want the death of my mother -- my best friend, my hero, my strength, my love -- to become even more politicized than it already is. To the supporters of this new Islamic cultural center, I must ask: Build your ideological monument somewhere else, far from my mother's grave, and let her rest.

    Neda Bolourchi lives in Los Angeles.

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    Any American that approved a mosque being built at Ground Zero has been paid off. There couldnt be any other explanation. God will judge them.
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    The Mosque at Ground Zero

    Townhall.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Pat Buchanan

    Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010
    7:35:53 AM by Kaslin


    Mayor Michael Bloomberg has just demonstrated that you can become a billionaire in America many times over, while being clueless about the country you live in.

    To Bloomberg, if you oppose a mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, you are indulging in religious bigotry and do not understand the Constitution. Here is the mayor explaining how the heroes of 9/11 died so that mosques might be built anywhere in New York City.

    "On Sept. 11th, thousands of first responders heroically rushed to the scene and saved tens of thousands of lives. More than 400 of those first responders did not make it out alive. In rushing into those burning buildings, no one asked, "What god do you pray to? What beliefs do you hold?' We do not honor their lives by denying the very constitutional rights they died protecting. We honor those lives by defending those rights, and the freedoms those terrorists attacked."

    The mayor appears to have plagiarized JFK's speech to the Houston ministers, where Kennedy defended a Catholic's right to run for president by invoking the heroic death of his brother Joe over the Channel.

    But the issue here is not religious tolerance. There are a hundred mosques in New York City.

    The issue here is the appalling insensitivity, if not calculated insult, of erecting a mosque two blocks from a World Trade Center where 3,000 Americans were massacred by Islamic fanatics whose Muslim religion was integral to their identity and mission.

    It is no more religious bigotry to oppose the Ground Zero Mosque than it would have been religious bigotry to oppose building a Shinto shrine in 1950 on Ford Island in Pearl Harbor, next to the Arizona.

    To Americans, the land on which the twin towers stood is hallowed ground, a burial site made scared by the suffering and deaths of all who perished in the horrifying minutes those towers burned and fell.

    There are many such sites in America. Lexington, Concord Bridge, Bunker Hill, Yorktown, the Alamo, Manassas -- where the first battle of the War Between the States was fought -- Antietam, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville, Vicksburg, Gettysburg.

    When developers tried to build a mall next to the Manassas battlefield, many who had kinfolk who fought and died in that war blocked it, including Jody Powell, Jimmy Carter's press secretary.

    They did not fight development because they opposed private enterprise, any more than those who blocked the licensing of a casino beside Gettysburg battlefield did so because they dislike gambling.

    What is the purpose of this mosque and Islamic center, the name of which, Cordoba House, is taken from a city that became the Moorish capital after Catholic Spain was conquered and came under Islamic rule for eight centuries before the Reconquista of 1492?

    How would Muslims in the Middle East react to the building of a Crusader House in the Holy Land, funded by the Vatican and built around a chapel dedicated to Pope Urban II?

    Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is fronting for the project, says its purpose is healing, reconciliation, harmony. Taking him at his word, why would Imam Feisal ferociously persist when the mosque was clearly enraging the families of the fallen of 9/11 and dividing, not uniting, New York and the country.

    Nor has Imam Feisal been transparent about where he will come up with the $100 million for Cordoba House, or who is behind this, or what is the need for a 13-story mosque and community center so near where the twin towers stood.

    As Claudia Rosett of Forbes has learned, Imam Feisal has been running the Cordoba Initiative, a charitable foundation whose total contributions over the five years ending in 2008 came to $100,000.

    Yet he plans a 13-story mosque and community center that will, he says, employ 150 full-time and 500 part-time workers.

    Mayor Bloomberg's statement also reflects a naivete about why bin Laden and al-Qaida sent those terrorists to wound our country and kill as many of us as they could in the most dramatic way they could.

    Al-Qaida did not attack us because we have a free press and freedom of assembly. They sent terrorists to smash and burn the symbols of U.S. power -- the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Capitol -- because they hate our policies and, above all, our presence in the Dar al-Islam, the House of Islam. They wish to purify their region of the infidel, establish a caliphate and live under sharia.

    To them, we are the new Crusaders, the new Romans, and by wounding and enraging us, they sucked us into a war on their terrain.

    And those firemen, police and rescue workers did not run into those burning buildings to defend constitutional rights, but, acting out of bravery and love, to save their fellow men.

    And as our God, the one true God, said, "Greater love than this hath no man, than that he lay down his life for his friend."

    Tell them to put their mosque somewhere else, Mike.


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    To Americans, the land on which the twin towers stood is hallowed ground, a burial site made scared by the suffering and deaths of all who perished in the horrifying minutes those towers burned and fell.

    We we will not ever forget..at least I will not...just like I don't forget "Pearl Harbor"


    These both shall live in "infamy"

    Trash may belittle the site but it can be cleaned up..


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    This is a video everyone needs to view.

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    Opposition Growing to New Mosques
    August 9, 2010 - 11:18 AM | by: Eric Shawn

    Opposition to new mosques is growing across the country where concerned residents do not want to see more mosques built in their communities. From California to Connecticut, there have been recent protests against both existing and proposed new mosques.

    At a July rally near Nashville, angry protestors spoke against a proposed 15-acre site that some fear could be turned into a militant training ground. The mosque leader says he's been there for 12 years and congregants are just enlarging their religious facility.

    The controversies are now attracting more attention nationwide.

    "The New York Times" featured a front page article just yesterday, reporting that "opponents have said their problem is Islam itself. They quote passages from the Koran and argue that even the most Americanized Muslim secretly wants to replace the Constitution with Islamic Shariah law."

    The paper notes that Islamic leaders are disheartened by the apparent trend and criticize the hostility as totally unwarranted.

    Some mosques are going further. Muslim leaders in Connecticut are asking for police protection of worshippers after a protest was held against a Bridgeport Mosque last week. Reports say the protestors stayed for about an hour and left without incident.

    The most prominent flash point regarding new mosques is the 13 story, $100 million proposed Islamic cultural center a couple of blocks from Ground Zero in New York City.

    There are calls to stop that project and investigate the finances of the organization behind it, Soho Properties, the owner of one of the two buildings needed to construct the new center.

    Now there may be a new obstacle to the mosque that critics see as a provocative insult to the memory of 9-11, but supporters say will be a center for interfaith dialogue and peace.

    One of the buildings needed to build the project is owned by the public New York electrical utility, Con Edison. However, the building is currently leased by one of the owners of Soho Properties, which already owns the building next door. There is an option to buy the building in the current contract, but critics are calling on the New York Public Service Commission, which oversees public utilities, to step in and quash any sale to the Islamic center developers.

    But a spokesman for Con Edison says that the developers can turn their building into an Islamic center right now. The utility claims that under the lease, the owner has the right to do that without any government approval, and that the process of selling the property to the Islamic center developers is underway, depending upon if they pay an agreed upon price set by an independent appraiser.

    "We are following our legal obligations under the lease. We will not allow other considerations to enter into this transaction," Con Ed said in a statement, adding that the company's "values call for respecting people without regard to their racial, ethnic, or religious orientation. They are all our customers."

    Meanwhile, the controversy over mosques has spread abroad.

    The mosque in Hamburg, Germany used by some of the 9-11 terrorists has been shut down by the government Monday. Officials feared the Taiba mosque, where 9-11 terrorist Mohammed Atta and others met, could have been used as a recruiting center for Islamic jihad.

    As for the proposed New York center, its leader, Iman Feisal Abdul Rauf, has written that Muslims must feel they are welcome.

    "Our purpose is to interweave America's Muslim population into mainstream society," he recently wrote, saying that the proposed center is "an attempt to prevent the next 9/11."

    Rauf has been controversial himself. In a recent radio interview, he refused to brand Hamas a terrorist organization and in a "60 Minutes" interview aired last month, said "United States polices were an accessory to the crime that happened" on 9/11.

    Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010 ... z0w8khvpSZ
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