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    Natural Born Requirement Called Stupidest Provision

    I would call that man a VERY STUPID MAN.


    OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
    'Natural-born' requirement called 'stupidest provision'
    Also 'discriminates, outdated, undemocratic and assumes birthplace a proxy for loyalty'

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    Posted: December 03, 2008
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    By Bob Unruh
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily


    An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and affirming it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

    Barack Obama and Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga

    The paper was written in 2006, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate, by Sarah Herlihy. She is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland & Ellis, and a partner in the same firm, Bruce I. Ettelson, cites his membership on the finance committees for both U.S. Sens. Obama and Richard Durbin on the corporate website.

    The article by Herlihy remained available online under the law review articles from Kent University.

    The issue is the subject of nearly two dozen court cases in recent weeks in the United States, including at least two that have gone to the U.S. Supreme Court, because of unanswered questions over Obama's birthplace.

    There have been accusations that he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as his campaign has stated. His paternal grandmother has stated she was in attendance at his birth in Mombasa. While Hawaii officials say they have seen his birth certificate, they have declined to release information from it.

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    The Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet isn't considered by critics to resolve the issue since during the 1960s when Obama was born, the then-new state would issue those certificates for infants not necessarily born in Hawaii.

    There also remain unanswered questions about his youth, when he lived and attended school in Indonesia and later when he traveled to Pakistan. They include whether he gave up a U.S. citizenship to attend school, or traveled on another nation's passport to Pakistan at a time when U.S. passports were unwelcome there.

    Answers to those issues could determine whether he meets the Constitution's demand for a "natural-born" citizen, or in the alternative, be ineligible to hold the office of president.

    The published paper reveals that such a requirement likely was considered in a negative light by organizations linked to Obama in the months before he announced in 2007 his candidacy for the presidency.

    "The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the 'stupidest provision' in the Constitution, "undecidedly un-American," "blatantly discriminatory," and the "Constitution's worst provision," Herlihy begins in her introduction to the paper titled, "Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement: Globalization as the Impetus and the Obstacle."

    She concludes that the "emotional" reasons to oppose changing the Constitution will prevail over the "rational" reasons demanding a change.

    "The current American perceptions about the effects of globalization and the misunderstanding about what globalization actually is will result in Americans deciding that naturalized citizens should not be president because this would, in effect, be promoting globalization.


    "Although this argument is admittedly circular, because globalization is the thing that makes the need to abolish the requirement more and more persuasive, Americans' subsequent perceptions about globalization are the very things that will prevent Americans from embracing the idea of eliminating the natural born requirement.

    "Logical Americans are looking for a reason to ignore the rational reasons promoted by globalization so that they may vote based on their own emotions and instincts," she wrote.

    Read all the evidence about Obama's birthplace in Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation."


    She blamed that on "fear, racism, religious intolerance, or blind faith in the decisions of the Founding Fathers."

    WND called Herlihy's number listed on the law firm website, and a woman answered with the words, "Sarah Herlihy." But when WND identified itself as a news agency, the woman said she didn't think "Sarah Herlihy" was in, but would take a message. There was no return call.

    In the body of her argument to throw out the constitutional provision, Herlihy said the plan simply is outdated.

    "Considering that the Founding Fathers presumably included the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution partly out of fear of foreign subversion, the current stability of the American government and the intense media scrutiny of presidential candidates virtually eliminates the possibility of a 'foreigner' coming to America, becoming a naturalized citizen, generating enough public support to become president, and somehow using the presidency to directly benefit his homeland," she wrote.


    "The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is outdated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty," she wrote.

    Many of the reasons for keeping the limit, she wrote, "are based primarily on emotion."


    WND reported earlier when Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga began demanding payback from Obama for silencing WND staff writer and best-selling author Jerome Corsi, who investigated Obama's links to the authoritarian African official.

    Odinga told Kenya's newspaper, The Nation, that he expected Obama's election to provide a windfall of U.S. trade, tourism and investment.

    "What we want to see is the expansion of relationships in terms of trade and direct investments," said Odinga. "We want to see more of our products finding markets in the U.S. and expect more direct investments by the Americans in the country."

    Odinga made it clear he played a small role in helping Obama win the White House – specifically by detaining Corsi and preventing him from holding a press conference in Kenya to disclose the findings of his investigation.

    In addition, Odina said he made a deliberate decision to minimize his relationship with Obama – even while previously claiming to be related to him.

    As WND had reported exclusively, Odinga is a Luo tribesman affiliated with Obama's father when Odinga's communist father was Kenya's first vice president after Kenyan independence and Obama's father was a Harvard-educated economist working in the Jomo Kenyatta government.

    Obama campaigned openly for Odinga for president in 2006 when Obama was in Kenya on a U.S. Senate "fact-finding" mission. Kenya's President Mwai Kibaki asked Obama to stop interfering with Kenyan presidential politics. Obama raised an alleged $1 million for Odinga to run for president in Kenya in December 2007, adding to the $1 million raised for Odinga's 2007 presidential campaign by Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

    A web blogger suggested, "So it sure looks like Obama's people have looked into the matter of 'natural born' as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of : 'If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!'"


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    Link to the 26 page Kent Law Review article.

    http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf

    Take your blood pressure meds first.

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    Until and if they change it, he may not eligable. I say he needs to prove he is able to hold office.

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    So this idiot thinks any 34 year old in the world is eligible to be president of the US.

    A fancy education don't make you smart, just the owner of a piece of embossed paper to hang on your wall.

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    Sarah P. Herlihy, an associate at Kirkland & Ellis LLP in Chicago.



    http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm ... temID=8909


    Here's some interesting info on Bruce I. Ettelson, a partner at the Kirkland & Ellis firm in Chicago.

    Memberships & Affiliations

    Member of the United Jewish Communities Finance Committee for the Chicago Metropolitan area.

    Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

    Member of the Midwest Regional Advisory Board of the University of Pennsylvania.

    Senior Vice Chairman of the United Jewish Communities Cardoza Society.

    Executive Committee member of Illinois chapter of AIPAC.

    Former Secretary, Treasurer and Director of the Kirkland & Ellis Foundation.

    Former Chicago area chairperson of the national United Jewish Communities Young Leadership Cabinet.
    Former Chairman of Mount Sinai Medical Institute Council.

    http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm ... temID=7845


    Also, Jack Levin, partner in same Chicago firm......

    Professional Profile

    Mr. Levin has concentrated his practice on complex business transactions, including mergers, acquisitions, buyouts, private equity and venture capital investing, formation of private equity funds, debt and equity restructurings and workouts, and executive compensation, with emphasis on tax, corporate, SEC, and structuring aspects, handling transactions which range in size from several million dollars to more than $7 billion.

    Earlier in his legal career, Mr. Levin (then a litigator) served as lead trial and appellate counsel in:

    * 8 U.S. Supreme Court arguments
    * 12 U.S. Court of Appeals arguments
    * 3 U.S. District Court trials (including 1 week jury trial)



    Mr. Levin's lifetime achievement awards:

    May 2005 - Chambers & Partners' global attorney lifetime achievement award for pioneering legal work in private equity/venture capital presented in London by U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair's spouse

    December 2002 - Illinois Venture Capital Association's lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital community, presented by Sen. Barack Obama

    May 2000 - American Jewish Committee's Learned Hand Award for contributions to the legal profession and the community, presented by United States Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
    November 2005 - Illinois Holocaust Museum and Education Center humanitarian of the year award

    http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm ... temID=7928

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    It seems a plot was hatched 2 years ago. Well, now he's in the hot seat.
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    go back to your mud huts where citizenship doesnt matter
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    What a slap in the face of all those that have died defending our "stupid" Constitution!
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    For people who are suppost to be so intelligent how can they be so stupid.......Sarah P. Herlihy has a twisted mind.

    Our Constitution has has served this country well for over 200+years, leave it alone, Americans will not let you bring in people from around the world to hold the highest office in this country.

    But just her raising the question kinda of makes you wonder what she knows..

    She looks like Caroline Kennedy.
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