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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I think a lot more companies would sign up if it was better promoted. Really MW, I hate to break your authoritarian heart, but not everything in this country has to be mandated to convince more people to do it. The criminals, crooks, cheater and thugs are going to cheat whether you "mandate" or not.
    You're off in a world all your own at times and sniping at me on this issue validates that. I'm betting a huge majority of those of us that support border security and are anti-illegal alien support nationally mandating the E-Verify program.

    Continue making it voluntary and the bad players will continue hiring illegal aliens. Why would any employer voluntarily enter the program when they are purposely hiring illegals? However, making it mandatory will make it easier to distinguish the bad player from the good ones. Additionally, nationally mandating the program through law will make it easier to prosecute employers not playing by the rules.

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    How many years have people been trying to pass mandated E-Verify? 10 years? 13 years? Until a law passes, advertise and promote it. The more people who know about it and its ease of use and advantages, the more who will sign up for it. The more who sign up for it, the easier it will be to pass the legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I'm betting a huge majority of those of us that support border security and are anti-illegal alien support nationally mandating the E-Verify program.
    Support it, yes. But mandate it, no! Any company that hires illegals is liable whether they enroll in E-Verify or not. And that is how it should be.

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    Continue making it voluntary and the bad players will continue hiring illegal aliens.
    Make it mandatory and a black market will be lucrative.

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    Why would any employer voluntarily enter the program when they are purposely hiring illegals?
    Why not? They can give the illusion that they are hiring legal help, but saving money on those under the table!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    Support it, yes. But mandate it, no! Any company that hires illegals is liable whether they enroll in E-Verify or not. And that is how it should be.

    Make it mandatory and a black market will be lucrative.

    Why not? They can give the illusion that they are hiring legal help, but saving money on those under the table!

    So am I to assume you don't support nationally mandating E-Verify? Okay, shockingly I guess we can mark you and Judy down as not supporting required E-Verify for employers. Honestly, I'm at a loss for words.

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    LOL!! You're so hysterical, MW. Honestly. Funny! I want to advertise E-Verify and promote its advantages to both American workers AND American businesses so more will use it and you construe that to mean I'm against E-Verify. Unbelievable. You're acting like Comey did on that infamous Wednesday that got him fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! You're so hysterical, MW. Honestly. Funny! I want to advertise E-Verify and promote its advantages to both American workers AND American businesses so more will use it and you construe that to mean I'm against E-Verify. Unbelievable. You're acting like Comey did on that infamous Wednesday that got him fired.

    There you go again. I didn't say you were against it, I said you didn't want it nationally mandated.

    You're own words are what led me to believe that:

    I think a lot more companies would sign up if it was better promoted. Really MW, I hate to break your authoritarian heart, but not everything in this country has to be mandated to convince more people to do it. The criminals, crooks, cheater and thugs are going to cheat whether you "mandate" or not.




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    And I never said I didn't want it nationally mandated, not in that quote or anywhere else .... ever.

    It doesn't look like the law is going to pass any time soon, so I'm suggesting the E-Verify program representatives go on Fox and Friends and promote using E-Verify by explaining all the advantages it offers to both American workers and American employers. With a pick-up in ICE raids on businesses, now is a good time to do that, because signing up for the program will help employers stay out of trouble and ensure they are hiring legal American workers for jobs our workers want and need and employers need to fill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    And I never said I didn't want it nationally mandated, not in that quote or anywhere else .... ever.

    It doesn't look like the law is going to pass any time soon, so I'm suggesting the E-Verify program representatives go on Fox and Friends and promote using E-Verify by explaining all the advantages it offers to both American workers and American employers. With a pick-up in ICE raids on businesses, now is a good time to do that, because signing up for the program will help employers stay out of trouble and ensure they are hiring legal American workers for jobs our workers want and need and employers need to fill.
    I agree that the Trump administration needs to do more to talk up the program. Furthermore, IMO, Trump needs to be pounding Ryan for a stand alone bill on E-Verify. I dare every Democrat to shoot down such a bill with the 2018 elections right around the corner. Unfortunately, our GOP has no intention of pushing an immigration bill of any kind right now. E-Verify could be pushed as a national security issue. If many pundit predictions come true and we lose the House and/or Senate in 2018, all is lost and Trump's next two years will be a bust for us on any immigration issue that doesn't include amnesty.

    I had high hopes on immigration/border security when Trump ascended to the Oval Office, however, Ryan and McConnel have pretty much dashed those hopes. My party has been a huge disappointment on immigration/border security!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    So am I to assume you don't support nationally mandating E-Verify?
    How perceptive since that is what I said!

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    Okay, shockingly I guess we can mark you and Judy down as not supporting required E-Verify for employers. Honestly, I'm at a loss for words.
    Okay, maybe you're not that perceptive. I gave my reasoning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    How perceptive since that is what I said!

    Okay, maybe you're not that perceptive. I gave my reasoning.

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