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    Obama Positioning For Backdoor Gun Control By Chuck Baldwin

    Obama Positioning For Backdoor Gun Control
    By Chuck Baldwin
    April 24, 2009


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    On his recent trip to Central America, President Barack Obama did more than
    cozy up to Marxist dictators; he also signed onto an international treaty
    that could, in effect, be used as backdoor gun control. It appears that
    Obama wants to use international treaties to do what congressional
    legislation is not able to do: further restrict the right of the American
    people to keep and bear arms.

    Obama is using the oft-disproved contention that "90% of the guns recovered
    in Mexico come from the United States" as the stated basis of his support
    for the international treaty he is promoting. The treaty is formally known
    as the Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and
    Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and Other Related Materials
    (CIFTA) treaty. The Bill Clinton administration signed the treaty back in
    1997, but the U.S. Senate has never ratified the treaty. Obama intends to
    change that.

    To date, 33 nations in the western hemisphere have signed the treaty. The
    U.S. is one of four nations that have yet to ratify it. According to one
    senior Obama administration official, passing the treaty is a "high
    priority" for the President.

    If ratified, the treaty would require the United States to adopt "strict
    licensing requirements, mark firearms when they are made and imported to
    make them easier to trace, and establish a process for sharing information
    between national law enforcement agencies investigating [gun] smuggling."

    Senator John Kerry, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee promises to
    "work for its [the CIFTA treaty's] approval by the Senate."

    Should the Senate ratify CIFTA, Americans who reload ammunition would be
    required to get a license from the government, and factory guns and
    ammunition would be priced almost out of existence due to governmental
    requirements to "mark" each one manufactured. Even the simple act of adding
    an after-market piece of equipment to a firearm, such as a scope or bipod,
    or reassembling a gun after cleaning it could fall into the category of
    "illicit manufacturing" of firearms and require government license and
    oversight.

    In addition, CIFTA would authorize the U.S. federal government (and open the
    door to international entities) to supervise and regulate virtually the
    entire American firearms industry. Making matters worse is the fact that, as
    a treaty, this Act does not have to be passed by both houses of Congress,
    nor is it subject to judicial oversight. All Obama needs to do in order to
    enact this unconstitutional and egregious form of gun control is convince a
    Democratic-controlled Senate to pass it.

    Obviously, the United Nations, from its very inception, has been one of the
    world's most ardent gun control proponents. As anyone who has ever driven by
    the U.N. building in New York City knows, a huge statue of an American-made
    revolver with its barrel twisted in the shape of a pretzel greets every
    visitor. The CIFTA treaty is one of the U.N.'s pet projects in order to
    achieve this long-held ambition.

    Of course, Obama is a longtime liberal radical when it comes to the Second
    Amendment. As a senator, he voted against the Second Amendment at every
    opportunity. He has never seen a piece of gun control legislation that he
    did not support. And as I have said before in this column, gun control is
    high on the list of priorities for the newly elected President Barack Obama.

    For Obama to intimate that 90% of the firearms used by Mexican drug cartels
    come from the United States reveals either a truly dishonest and deceptive
    mind or a totally misinformed and naïve one. Many studies have thoroughly
    debunked the 90% myth, including one by William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott
    in a recent Fox News report. According to these researchers, the real number
    is closer to 17%.

    According to La Jeunesse and Lott, Mexican drug cartels, which control
    billions of dollars, obtain the overwhelming majority of their guns from the
    Black Market, Russian crime syndicates, South America, China, Guatemala, and
    even from the Mexican army.

    In fact, Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar: AK-47s from China; fragmentation
    grenades from South Korea; shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain,
    Israel and former Soviet bloc dealers; assault weapons from China; and
    explosives from Korea--just to name a few sources.

    In addition, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo, more than
    150,000 Mexican soldiers have deserted in just the last six years. The vast
    majority of them took their weapons with them, including the standard issue
    M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

    And please do not forget that corruption within the Mexican government is
    rampant. Many news sources have covered stories of how drug cartels bribe
    Mexican officials. An article in the New York Times last year reported, "One
    of Mexico's most notorious drug cartels made huge cash payments to officials
    in the Mexican attorney general's office in exchange for confidential
    information on anti-drug operations . . . the cartel might have had an
    informant inside the American embassy."

    The Mexican drug cartels control a multi-billion dollar enterprise that has
    more than enough resources to obtain planeloads of weapons from all over the
    world. For Obama to assert that 90% of the Mexican drug cartels' firearms
    come from the United States is a bald-faced lie! Again, either Obama is
    stupid and naïve or he is deliberately lying to the American people in order
    to "sell" the CIFTA treaty to the U.S. Senate. I think we all know that Mr.
    Obama is anything but stupid and naïve.

    Read more about the CIFTA treaty at

    http://gunowners.org/a042109.htm

    In addition to the CIFTA treaty, liberal Chicago Democrat Congressman Bobby
    Rush has introduced H.R. 45 in the House of Representatives. This bill is
    anything but subtle. It is an in-your-face gun control bill that would make
    "Mr. Gun Control," the late Senator Howard Metzenbaum, shout Hallelujah.

    H.R. 45 would require a federal license for all handguns and semiautomatics,
    including the ones you already possess. It would require handgun and
    semi-auto owners to be thumbprinted at a police station and sign a
    certificate that the gun will not be kept in a place where it could be used
    for the defense of the gun owner's family.

    Read more about H.R. 45 at

    http://gunowners.org/hr45ana.htm

    In all likelihood, H.R. 45 is probably a long shot at passing both houses of
    Congress, albeit gun owners should never take any proposed gun control bill
    for granted. The CIFTA treaty, however, is much more dangerous due to its
    subtlety and subterfuge, the less cumbersome process of passage, and the
    fact that it makes U.S. gun owners subject to international gun control
    laws.

    All in all, freedom in America is on the Obama White House chopping block.
    And this much is certain: if the American people do not retain the right to
    keep and bear arms, every other freedom we hold dear will quickly disappear
    as well. Moreover, if we do retain the right to keep and bear arms, it will
    only be because enough of us--and our state and federal legislators--resist
    the tyrannical gun control machinations of Barack Obama. And that means
    defeating the CIFTA treaty and H.R. 45.

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    Are they really so deluded as to think such a treaty will be effective in disarming the American people?

    For something like this to have even the remotest of chances, it would have had to have been implemented a LONG time ago.....not months, years, but decades ago.

    At this point in time, there is such a massive stockpile of guns, parts, ammo, ammo components, people with the ability, tools, and materials necessary to manufacture ammo, etc..........that it's just NEVER going to happen.

    They can enact whatever laws, ratify whatever treaties but it's too late for any of that to ever work.

    And they all think they're sooooo damned smart............
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    Quote Originally Posted by azwreath
    Are they really so deluded as to think such a treaty will be effective in disarming the American people?

    For something like this to have even the remotest of chances, it would have had to have been implemented a LONG time ago.....not months, years, but decades ago.

    At this point in time, there is such a massive stockpile of guns, parts, ammo, ammo components, people with the ability, tools, and materials necessary to manufacture ammo, etc..........that it's just NEVER going to happen.

    They can enact whatever laws, ratify whatever treaties but it's too late for any of that to ever work.

    And they all think they're sooooo damned smart............
    I hope your right AZ. Nothing this administration tries or does surprises me any more.
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    I sure hope your right.

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    Gun trafficking treaty

    There was another post similar to this a few days ago that I responded to. I pointed out the bastards in power were trying to weasel their way to a form of gun control. I also pointed out that there are a ton of people that are not having it no matter what law they make. This country is headed for a confrontation that will decide it's future. Either we will be a cowardly, frail, pantywaist of a geographic region (NAU) where our every thought is monitored and censored or we will return to the ways that we know to be the foundation of freedom and independence. This can not be won entirely by the gun, but they shall be part of it, and thus can not be surrendered. The greater good will be served when enough people stand up to those who call themselves elites and say in a resounding voice, NO! NEVER! ENOUGH!

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    Part of the NWO

    What every one should know about the NWO:


    Three main points:

    A. Global Govt / military
    B. Global Economy
    C. Global Religion



    1. Free trade deals (NAFTA)

    2. Economic Mergers

    3. Foreign aid

    4. Worldwide military bases

    5. Perpetual war (we do things we would not normally do- like accept more taxes and debt.)

    6. Illegal immigration

    7. Many languages
    8. Military cross training and alliances

    9. Gun control - disarm civilians
    10. Political correctness

    11. Heavy debt

    12. Promoting international culture
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