Thread: Our freedom, democracy and liberties was not threaten by Sad

Our freedom, democracy and liberties was not threaten by Saddam and is not threatened not by Iraqis. Our troops are not giving their lives in Iraq for our freedom or the freedom of Iraqis. The Sunni, Shiites and Kurds was not a threat. Chaney and Bush dont know zit about fighting a war, who to fight and why. This war was never about fighting terrorist but all about oil not being in the hands of Saddam.This war is not about our winning or our victory. It is about Iraqis winning the war against us. Driving us out of Iraq and their settling their problems among themselves will make them winners and sectioning the country off into three providence and not three countries and share the resources. There is nothing we can do if the Sunni want to share their part with terrorist when we are gone. We are the problem in Iraq and it will not get better as long as we are there. If we put a democracy in place and out choice of government, the Iraqi people will lose and we will loose.

This should have always been about the Iraqi people winning. The insurgents are Iraqis and only 10% are foreign terrorist. If we are serious about fighting terrorist lets go after them with a surge in Afghanistan and Pakistan where they really are. Pakistan is harboring terrorist and they are based and training in Pakistan. We are afraid of offending Pakistan who is aware the terrorist are in Pakistan.

We have a war going on here against illegals who are rapidly killing Americans, socially, physically and economically. They are literally taking jobs from Blacks Americans whose unemployment rate is 72%, Hispanic 4.2 and Whites 5.4. and they say Blacks are not working because they do not want to. Our leaders are doing nothing to stop them because the more that come means the richer corporations will become and they will pass benefits on to government entities who protects them.

There are not no winners in war. If we loose one man or woman, we have lost. Over 3,000 troops have been killed and over 3,000 families have been destroyed for ever. Not to mention the lost Iraqis have suffered since we chose to fight terrorist on their land so we do not have to fight them here. It is okay for us to destroy Iraq who had nothing to do with 9-11 or terrorism. There is no victory unless there is compromise and diplomacy.
Chaney say if we set a withdrawal date the terrorist will just sit back and wait. Wait for what? What will they do when we do leave? All they want to do is kill us, so if we leave that can't kill us as easily as if we are in their back yard. If they only wanted us to leave they could sit back and wait now because we would leave sooner. Bush, Chaney, Rice and Gonzales are all out of touch with reality.
We are the aggressor and we are the terrorist. We have more WMDs than any country and we have used them in the past. We have left a history of destruction. Japan is still paying the price.We are a nation of warmongering Christians. We profess to be a Christian nation, but instead of living by Gods law we make up our own as we go along. Any nation that leaves Gods rule of law suffer the consequence and Israel is a perfect example. God gave Israel freedom, food and land and fought its battles and the only conditions was that they obey his commandments and accept his son as the Christ and they could not do it. Israel has not had one day of peace since 607BC.

We are at war within and we are losing . We are destroying our selves and cant stop. We live in houses with safe rooms, alarms and weapons and our children are molested and killed. Our children are not safe at home, at school or at church. Sometime the only safe place for them is in our streets seeking protection from each other. Children kill their parents and parents kill their children and each other. Serial killers just kill for fun. We allow gangs, drugs and other criminals to take over and terrorize. People are dying homeless on the streets. Diseases that we have caused by immorality are killing us. We have truly lost Gods favor and his protection. He is telling us loud and clear to come back to him and he will come back to us and we are not listening just as in the days of Noah.

"Stand still and see the salvation of our Lord. He will fight our battles for us," but we are too impatient to wait for him to act. Vengeance is his and not ours. We do not believe even tho by the millions we profess to with our lips but our action show that we do not have faith.Iraq, we have been there and done that before. This is nothing new for us. This may well be the last battle we fight.

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Regardless of what we thought of Saddam, he kept Iran restrained. We did not need to get involved in Iraq unless they had WMD. But then again doesn't it seem strange that we have known that NK has had WMD for years and we know that Iran had weapons and yet we have done nothing.

I don't usually go with plots but I cannot help wondering if Iraq was to keep Americans eyes off our own borders. bush just keeps messing up and that causes the American opinions to refocus off the border. Look at how many anti-illegal politicans were defeated due to the war.

I'm sorry, but you have yet to demonstrate that you know jack squat about warfare or tactics or pretty much anything else other than acting as a Muslim apologist.

Fact: The regime of Saddam Hussein actively supported terrorist groups and paid "bounties" to the families of suicide bombers.

Fact: His regime provided training facilities and sanctuary to notorious terrorists such as Abu Nidal.

Fact: Saddam Hussein had plotted to assassinate a President of the United States.

Fact: The regime was in gross violation of the terms of the cease-fire that prevented its ouster in the first Gulf War.

Fact: US presence in Iraq provides a strategic "x-factor" in the geopolitics of the region. Local allies cannot be counted on to provide bases of operation in the case of an emergent terrorist situation, particularly without undesirable conditions being applied. Forward bases in Iraq keep terrorist factions harbored by Syria and Iran within immediate striking range and dissuade open assistance of terrorists from members of the Axis of Evil.

Fact: The prevention of a radical Sunni government in Iraq is essential for future US security against state sponsored terrorism, and the prevention of an Iranian-aligned Shi'ite government in Iraq is essential to the security of the region and to the continued support and/or cooperation of our moderate allies (such as Saudi Arabia and the Emirates) in the region.

Fact: Regardless of your opinion, a comparison of the first six years of this administration with the eight years of the previous administration demonstrates that the strategy to reduce or eliminate terrorist attacks on the US and its bases, embassies and other assets has worked. Under Clinton we suffered an average of about one major attack per year. Under this administration we have suffered just one major attack. State supporters of terrorism did not fear the Demonrat President, but they fear this one.

Becky, this really had nothing to do with Iraq being a threat, except for being a threat to the oil.
Don't be misled. The BOOSH family main investments are oil.
He's kissing mexico's butt so he can get his hands on their huge natural gas and oil reserves as well.
Isn't it interesting that on Sept 13, 2001 our president said that Osama was our nation's TOP Priority? then, six months later (to the day) on March 13, 2002 he says, "I don't know where Osama is, and he's not our main focus now.."
because then he had shifted all resources towards Iraq.
Now I have no doubt that Sadam was funding terrorist organizations.
Here's a nice little cartoon on that.

We didn't keep IRAN contained on little bit.

FACT: They had already obtained nuke tech from both KLINTON and from China as well as Kahn from Pakistan. China also allowed N. Korea to sell tech to Iran. So, there ya have it......IRAN, a very dangerous entity who's goal has been to destroy the Infidel since Carter screwed us to the wall and removed the Shah.

And they have been rattling the cage ever since. HOSTAGES, BEIRUT and terrorist organization. It's only now that they've taken the burqua off of their ugly, evil face for the world to see.

SINCE THEY HAVE NUKE TECH..........hey, THANK YOU KLINTON for getting that ball rolling along.