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    Paul Ryan lies on FoxNews and no one calls him out!

    Paul Ryan was on FoxNews this morning [the 8AM hour] and once again he has lied about his tax reform plan, saying that under his plan and its simplification, the American People would be able file their tax returns on a post card. The truth is, the American people will still have to determine what is and is not “taxable income” under his plan, and this is the gimmick used by Congress to grant preferences and exclusions, and select winners and losers. And for one to determine what their “taxable income” is under Paul Ryan’s alleged tax reform, will still require full knowledge of what is taxable income and the reams of pages Congress uses to define “taxable income”.


    Perhaps someday one of our friends at FoxNews will ask Paul Ryan, what are the characteristics which define taxable income under his "tax reform"? Of course, this question was succinctly answered many times by our Justice system, e.g., in Eisner v. Macomber 252 U.S. 189, 206 (1920), a case challenging a tax on "income" the Court states the following:


    "In order, therefore, that the clauses cited from article 1 of the Constitution may have proper force and effect, save only as modified by the amendment, and that the latter also may have proper effect, it becomes essential to distinguish between what is and what is not 'income,' as the term is there used, and to apply the distinction, as cases arise, according to truth and substance, without regard to form. Congress cannot by any definition it may adopt conclude the matter, since it cannot by legislation alter the Constitution, from which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised.


    The fundamental relation of 'capital' to 'income' has been much discussed by economists, the former being likened to the tree or the land, the latter to the fruit or the crop; the former depicted as a reservoir supplied from springs, the latter as the outlet stream, to be measured by its flow during a period of time. For the present purpose we require only a clear definition of the term 'income,' [252 U.S. 189, 207] as used in common speech, in order to determine its meaning in the amendment, and, having formed also a correct judgment as to the nature of a stock dividend, we shall find it easy to decide the matter at issue.


    After examining dictionaries in common use (Bouv. L. D.; Standard Dict.; Webster's Internat. Dict.; Century Dict.), we find little to add to the succinct definition adopted in two cases arising under the Corporation Tax Act of 1909 (Stratton's Independence v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399, 415 , 34 S. Sup. Ct. 136, 140 [58 L. Ed. 285]; Doyle v. Mitchell Bros. Co., 247 U.S. 179, 185 , 38 S. Sup. Ct. 467, 469 [62 L. Ed. 1054]), 'Income may be defined as the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined,' provided it be understood to include profit gained through a sale or conversion of capital assets, to which it was applied in the Doyle Case, 247 U.S. 183, 185 , 38 S. Sup. Ct. 467, 469 (62 L. Ed. 1054)."



    As you can see, defining what is and what is not taxable income requires a taxpayer to deduct all necessary expenses and outlays from gross receipts in order to arrive at taxable income. Income from a business which was wholly illegal was held subject to income tax in United States v. Sullivan, 274 U.S. 259. Nevertheless, it was necessary to determine what that income was, and the cost of an illegal purchase of liquor was subtracted from proceeds of the illegal sale of the liquor in order to arrive at the gain from the illegal transaction which were subjected to a tax in that case.


    And, in Sullenger vs. Commissioner, 11 T.C. 1076, 1948, the Court allowed the business owner [who made illegal purchases of meat] to deduct the cost of meat purchased at a higher price then set by the Office of Price Administration, a World War II price control agency, which he then resold for profit. The “income” from those sales was being taxed which was at issue in the case. The Court went on to cite Sullivan and concluded: “No authority has been cited for denying to this taxpayer the cost of goods sold in computing his profit, which profit alone is gross income for income tax purposes.”


    So, what is the cost of goods sold by a wage earner? Is it not his/her time, labor, skills, the cost of travel to and from work, etc? The value of which must be deducted from gross receipts in order to arrive at an alleged profit or gain?


    Shouldn't a working person be allowed to deduct transportation costs to and from work in calculating their profit or gain? How about the costs involved with providing the necessities of life or medical expenses which a wage earner incurs when making their labor possible? Shouldn't a wage earned be allowed to deduct these costs from gross receipts in calculating his/her profit or gain?

    How about the eight hour of life which a working person invests in earning a wage? Is this not to be considered as their property and a capital outlay, the value of which must be deducted from gross receipts in order to arrive at an alleged profit or gain?

    Do we now see one of the reasons why Paul Ryan’s “tax reform” is still capricious, arbitrary and an immoral system of taxation, and why the power to lay and collect taxes calculated from incomes must be withdrawn from Congress' hands?

    JWK


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    President Trump praises tax manipulation and backs away from tax reform

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    See Trump Hails 'Big Win' For Tax Reform--13 GOP Reps Disagree

    ”President Trump on Thursday praised the House GOP’s passage of their tax reform plan, calling it a “big win” for reform.”

    The fact is, President Trump's support for the House Bill does absolutely nothing to reform the manner in which Congress raises its federal revenue!

    Does President Trump’s tax reform end unequal direct taxation and restore our Constitution’s rule of apportioning direct taxation? No!


    Does President Trump’s tax reform end our federal government’s existing use of income taxation as a weapon to attack and punish political foes? No!


    Does President Trump’s tax reform end our Washington Swamp Creatures ability to pick winners and losers by arbitrarily dictating what is and what is not “taxable income”? No!


    Does President Trump’s tax reform end our Washington Swamp Creatures use of taxation to compel American Citizens to divulge the most personal aspects of their private lives, and do so under a penalty of perjury? No!


    Does President Trump’s tax reform end a system of taxation which punishes hard working citizens and businesses for their success, while rewarding the lazy and unproductive by allowing them to escape contributing income taxes into our federal treasury? Hell no!


    Seems crystal clear that President Trump has joined our Washington Swamp Creatures in their ongoing Kabuki Dance called tax reform, which never ends in real tax reform. Real tax reform is found in The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment which would restore our Constitution’s original tax plan, as our Founders intended it to operate, and it would withdraw the notoriously evil powers associated with the communist/socialist inspired income tax which President Trump has now embraced.


    JWK


    Are we really ok with 45 percent of our nation’s population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation’s hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes, when our Constitution requires “Representatives and direct taxes Shall be apportioned among the Several States”?

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    President Trump still pushing socialist and communist income tax as tax reform

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    See President Trump will head to Capitol Hill ahead of Senate tax reform vote


    “We look forward to welcoming President Trump to the Senate again next Tuesday,” the chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., announced in a statement today.


    “This is a historic opportunity for our conference and the president to build on our momentum to give Americans the tax relief they’ve been waiting for,” he said.”



    Unfortunately, President Trump is promoting the Republican swamp creatures cooked up “tax manipulation” of the socialist/communist inspired income tax, and it keeps alive this patently evil system of taxation which invites corruption, unequal taxation and allows members of Congress to pick winners and losers for a moderate campaign contribution from donors who represent special interests.


    Real “tax reform” is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment.


    President Trump is being played like a fiddle by our Washington Swamp Creatures when it comes to “tax reform”.


    JWK



    “…a national revenue must be obtained; but the system must be such a one, that, while it secures the object of revenue it shall not be oppressive to our constituents.”___ ___Madison, during the creation of our Nation’s first revenue raising Act

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