Thread: Sarah Palin's Relevance to our Future as a Country

Originally Posted by zeezil

Originally Posted by ThaHound

Originally Posted by zeezil

Great post and wonderful words, ThaHound. I can see Gov. Palin is far removed from just your average politician. She's a diamond in the rough.

Your perception is right on target, Zee! She has much ground to cover, and time will prove her and improve her but for right now, it looks very promising. I just wish that somehow she and Chuch Baldwin were running mates and not with McCain...just my personal preference...

CAN TWO WALK TOGETHER WITHOUT AGREEMENT?

By Chuck Baldwin
September 3, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate was exactly what he needed to do to make himself competitive against Barack Obama in the November elections. (For the record, I predicted three weeks ago that Palin would be his choice.) As a result (and right on cue), conservatives throughout the country--especially Christian conservatives--are now fully supporting McCain's candidacy for President. Even James "I-will-never-vote-for-John-McCain" Dobson has endorsed McCain.

By all appearances, Governor Palin is a true conservative. She is pro-life. She is pro-Second Amendment. Alaska is one of only two states (Vermont is the other) that recognize the right of their citizens to carry handguns without a Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW) permit. She was rightly critical of the invasion of Iraq, once calling it a "war for oil." Speaking of oil, she believes we should drill for oil in Alaska and throughout the U.S., and is critical of the federal government for allowing America to become dependent upon foreign oil for our energy needs. She even heaped praises upon the Republican that Republicans love to hate: Ron Paul. Beyond that, Lynette Clark, the chairman of the Alaskan Independence Party (the party under which yours truly is on the Presidential ballot this year) reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the party back in the early 90s. This is very encouraging in that the AIP is a patriotic, states' rights party that holds strong sentiments opposing the New World Order propensities of the two major parties. In essence, Sarah Palin is everything that John McCain isn't. Which leads to the question that was asked long ago by the Hebrew prophet: "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

When the no-compromise constitutionalist, Ron Paul, was asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if he would consider being John McCain's running mate, he said no. His reason for that was that should McCain do something fundamentally counter to his constitutional convictions--such as bombing Iran without a Declaration of War (or other possible unconstitutional actions that Paul knows McCain is predisposed to)--he would have to resign. Knowing this, he (Paul) could not in good conscience accept a McCain invitation to join his ticket (not that McCain would ever ask him to be his running mate; Ron was not even invited to participate in the Republican convention, for Pete's sake).

Herein lies the problem for Sarah Palin. How can a principled conservative support the policies and actions of an unprincipled globalist such as John McCain? As Vice President, Palin will be required to promote and defend McCain's big-government, liberal, and globalist plans. For example, what will she do when John McCain proposes amnesty for millions of illegal aliens, which he is certain to do? What will she do when McCain proposes to close gun shows, or at least the private sale of firearms at gun shows? What will she do when he proposes to increase federal spending for abortion providers (which he has done numerous times as senator)? What will she do when he promotes federal spending for embryonic stem cell research? What will she do when John McCain proliferates Bush's police state machinations by expanding the Patriot Act and similar legislation? What will Palin do when McCain decides to nuke Iran (and who knows what else), not only without a Declaration of War by Congress, but also without provocation or justification? What will she do as John McCain expands the Security and Prosperity Partnership with Canada and Mexico? What will she do as McCain opens the door of the NAFTA superhighway and the North American Union? What will she do as John McCain allows the United Nations to dictate and manipulate America's foreign policy? Again, can two walk together except they be agreed?

Let's face it: John McCain is using Sarah Palin as inducement to trick conservatives into accepting his liberal, big-government, globalist candidacy. And, sadly, it is working.

As I have said before, today's national Christian leaders are among the most gullible people on the planet. They are so desperate to be invited to sit at the king's table that they will compromise practically any principle. But accepting John McCain was a not only a bitter pill, it was a BIG pill, one they could not get down without a major dose of syrup. And that is exactly what Governor Palin brings to the table: sweet syrup to help conservatives swallow John McCain.

Unfortunately, the things that make Palin so attractive (her conservative principles) are the things that she will be forced to surrender in order to be John McCain's running mate. The best thing that can happen to Sarah Palin is for John McCain to lose the November election. This would allow her to go into the 2012 elections as perhaps the Republican Presidential frontrunner. If McCain wins in November, and Palin is forced to serve at the pleasure of this globalist insider for four years, she will be forever ruined as a genuine constitutional conservative. Remember, "No man can serve two masters." One cannot be faithful to the Constitution and a constitutional apostate such as John McCain at the same time. That is an absolute impossibility.

What our conservative friends need to wake up to is the depth of duplicity and wickedness that permeates Washington politics (in both major parties) today. There is nothing that these globalist insiders at the Council on Foreign Relations (of which John McCain is a longtime member) will not do

to fulfill their power-mad plans. There is nothing too evil, too sinister, or too iniquitous, including using, abusing, chewing up and then spitting out good people such as Sarah Palin. Even more unfortunate and sad is the fact that the James Dobsons of this world are too blind to see it.

THIS WAS SOME GREAT INFORMATION. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE NEWS AS IN-DEPTH AS USUAL DUE TO A MAJOR CHANGE I AM EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. SADLY IT APPEARS THAT SHE COULD BE BEING USED BUT SHE IS MUCH TOO SMART NOT TO KNOW THAT POSSIBILITY. I DO NOT FEEL THAT SHE WOULD COMPROMISE HER PRINCIPALS FOR FAME OR "GLORY" BUT ONLY SHE KNOWS FOR SURE. SHE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS REQUIRED AND ALL THAT WAS WRITTEN ABOVE. IT IS MY FONDEST HOPE THAT SHE IS ONE STEP AHEAD OF HIM OR KNOWS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT. WHY THEN DID CHUCK BALDWIN NOT CHOOSE HER AS HIS RUNNING MATE? NOW THAT THE EVIL OTHER SIDE HAS HER, NOW HE COMMENTS! WHAT A SHAMEFUL LOSS ON HIS PART.

Originally Posted by ThaHound

Originally Posted by cayla99

Thahound,

First, thank you for this post. Second, as to where she stands on illegal immigration, I have a unique idea. You are a citizen of Alaska. Why don't we try something simple, would you be willing to either send a letter or email and simply ask her?

I caught the "unique" idea play...Problem is, I am in the middle of packing for a big move right now and have too many irons in the fire. I shouldnt even be on here right honestly but I was just taking a quick break. I have no inside quicker means than any of you for contacting her. I believe all her contact info is posted on the net so it is public information. (I did just try to call the capital and got a voice mail so I left the question with a message to return my call.) Returning an in-state call might be more likely. I too, am gravely concerned about her stand on illegal immigration but I think there is still time to get our answers.

I DECIDED TO JUST WORK LATE ON MY MOVE. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT. I CALLED ANOTHER THE LOCAL OFFICE IN ANCHORAGE WITH THE QUESTION AND WAS TOLD THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS CAMPAIGN ISSUES DURING WORKING HOURS. I WAS GIVEN A PHONE NO. IN PHOENIX TO CALL WHICH I DID. THEY DIRECTED ME TO A PHONE # IN MINNESOTA WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THEY RE-DIRECTED ME TO HIS WEBSITE JOHMMCAIN.COM AND TO THE ISSUES AREA CLAIMING THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW. I WAS GIVEN A NATIONAL POLICY NO. TO CALL AS WELL. 703-418-2008. THE WEBSITE INFO ON THE SUBJECT APPEARS TO BE A WELL CAMOFLAUGED AMNESTY...BUT HOPING I AM WRONG...

The best thing that can happen to Sarah Palin is for John McCain to lose the November election. This would allow her to go into the 2012 elections as perhaps the Republican Presidential frontrunner. If McCain wins in November, and Palin is forced to serve at the pleasure of this globalist insider for four years, she will be forever ruined as a genuine constitutional conservative. Remember, "No man can serve two masters." One cannot be faithful to the Constitution and a constitutional apostate such as John McCain at the same time. That is an absolute impossibility.

Not sure that I actually agree with that part of Baldwin's statement. If the ticket loses many people may conclude it was too big of a risk to have Palin on it. Baldwin is accurate that evangelicals have paved the way for McCain's ascension. And those same people will most likely stick to their views and retreat from any bold move---such as nominating Palin in 2012. Believe me, I know how these people are with political issues.

If McCain/Palin are elected I think we can continue to expect conservative nominees to federal benches AND a continuation of much the same staff at DHS. This would extend the time for border enforcement, even if McCain remains determined to push for C.I.R. An Obama administration would immediately overhaul DHS and ICE into helpless liberal bureaucracies. I don't doubt McCain would sign a CIR bill; it is up to us to try to stall the progress of such legislation towards his desk.

Originally Posted by Dixie

From what I understand about Alaska, it's a very difficult place to live. It's still a frontier and it needs a lot of infastructure just to catch up to the rest of the US. Alaska probably needs more earmarks than most states.

Maybe what was done should be evaluated, over how much was spent.

Dixie

I agree. The infrastructure is very hard to keep up due to the extreme temperatures. My hubby worked at a large airport. The upkeep in good weather was tremendous. I can only imagine up there how the runways can be damaged.

So what if Sarah sent a donation to Buchanan? He sure doesn't like the ILLEGALS and is all for shipping them out!

I would like to know her stand on illegal immigration, it will be a deal breaker for me. I will NOT vote for anyone who supports any type of amnesty for illegal aliens.

I DECIDED TO JUST WORK LATE ON MY MOVE. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT. I CALLED ANOTHER THE LOCAL OFFICE IN ANCHORAGE WITH THE QUESTION AND WAS TOLD THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS CAMPAIGN ISSUES DURING WORKING HOURS. I WAS GIVEN A PHONE NO. IN PHOENIX TO CALL WHICH I DID. THEY DIRECTED ME TO A PHONE # IN MINNESOTA WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THEY RE-DIRECTED ME TO HIS WEBSITE JOHMMCAIN.COM AND TO THE ISSUES AREA CLAIMING THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW. I WAS GIVEN A NATIONAL POLICY NO. TO CALL AS WELL. 703-418-2008. THE WEBSITE INFO ON THE SUBJECT APPEARS TO BE A WELL CAMOFLAUGED AMNESTY...BUT HOPING I AM WRONG...

Sounds like you got the run around and yes Mc Cain is all about well camoflauged Amnesty.