Thread: States Are Doing What Scott Pruitt Won’t

Originally Posted by Judy

Or maybe Americans will wake up and stop buying the products.

Just like Americans don't make Comey, Hillary, and many other crooks rich selling books and appearances? Idiot TV/Movie stars remain popular. Drugs that hurt people become popular? No, Americans follow what they are told is "cool". They will not stop buying something they want.

Originally Posted by jtdc

Just like Americans don't make Comey, Hillary, and many other crooks rich selling books and appearances? Idiot TV/Movie stars remain popular. Drugs that hurt people become popular? No, Americans follow what they are told is "cool". They will not stop buying something they want.

Some will, some won't. We'll see how it works out for the Americans in Washington state. They may be trendsetters. Back when EPA was formed, the states didn't have environmental protection agencies, they didn't have any resources or even much knowledge on the issues.

Today, because of EPA's work over many decades, states have learned a lot, developed their own conforming regulations and often even gone further, as is their right to do. Pruitt is a states rights person, so is Trump, so what Washington State has done could well be the wave that kicks off even more state handling of these matters, which is what Trump wanted to see happen, i. e., more state handling of these matters they're competent to handle and less reliance on federal agencies.

There will always be an EPA to coordinate, do studies, research, and provide federal response to matters in states that fail, like the failure in Flint, Michigan. But what was EPA's response before Trump? Nothing, but lies. This is the sad state of affairs at the EPA that Pruitt has inherited.

It's a mess, fixing it is a big job, EPA and FDA are two of the biggest swamps in DC, so until you clean house and get all these rats out, with them all gossiping, leaking, eavesdropping, and anti-Trumping everything within the agency until you do, it's very difficult for a new EPA Administrator to fix this agency without being able to have private confidential conversations, so I totally understand the soundproof booth. Trump and all Cabinet Members need one, if you ask me.

None of these federal agencies are filled with happy excited loyal Trump Supporters who support the Trump Agenda. They are filled with people who are either Democrats who voted for Hillary and despise this President or Never Trump Republicans who despise this President and plot daily for the failure of this President and his Agenda to fix our country. That's not just EPA, it's every federal agency.

Imagine going to work every day as the head of a department and walking down the halls and through the agency knowing 9 out of 10 of the people you depend on to execute your orders and policies are plotting your demise, yet you can't fire them because of Civil Service rules? Tough jobs for all in this administration.

Draining the Swamp wasn't just about lobbyists, it was about 90% of all 3 branches of the federal government. It will take time to fix that.

So the sooner states address the problems that are of concern to them in areas where they can, the better.

I think we have a REAL EPA CHIEF. Why else would he need a soundproof phone booth if he wasn't fixing an agency that hadn't fixed the problems? He's fixing an agency that couldn't even get a basic water test right in Flint, Michigan.

HOGWASH! All states have an EPA state level and they are all beholding to industry - they didn't catch anything? That is why we need accountability not private talks.

You think pruitt will be better - he won't test at all. He wants to make deals with industry in his private phone booth and not get caught. His calendar is filled with meetings with them. Put 2+2 together. Guess you like toxic coal residue in your water. Doesn't add jobs just $$$ for coal industry and their share holders. Guess you are fine with the damage toxicity causes the unborn fetus.

Originally Posted by artist

HOGWASH! All states have an EPA state level and they are all beholding to industry - they didn't catch anything? That is why we need accountability not private talks.

You think pruitt will be better - he won't test at all. He wants to make deals with industry in his private phone booth and not get caught. His calendar is filled with meetings with them. Put 2+2 together. Guess you like toxic coal residue in your water. Doesn't add jobs just $$$ for coal industry and their share holders. Guess you are fine with the damage toxicity causes the unborn fetus.

Then why did you post an article claiming "states are doing what scott pruitt won't"?!

Originally Posted by Judy

Then why did you post an article claiming "states are doing what scott pruitt won't"?!

I'm not going to get in the middle of your discussion with artist. However, I will remind you that many of us sometimes post articles we don't agree with.

You don't make sense and believe you like to waste others time just so you can argue @ what you think is right because you are either eating too many pork chops and filled with hogwash or you are totally blinded with adulation for trump. Either one is a health hazard.

it was posted to show how much toxicity has been ongoing nationwide and now even more should be allowed. Why don't you answer why you think it is ok to endanger fetuses with toxicity from industries? As I said states re Michigan & Pennsylvania for that matter are not doing the job of protecting environment. It takes a while for the public to be informed and react but Pa republicans are done due to release of them ordering EPA NOT to inspect fracking sites & Pa Heath Services putting health complaints in the trash as they were told to do. How stupid can anyone be to ok such underhanded modalities?

Then people accuse someone who doesn't do any of this of endangering fetuses with toxicity because .

WAKE UP! That is why trump wants pruitt - to do away with ALL regulations and make matters worse. trump is very wrong in his greediness $$$ by attempting to INCREASE toxicity over a healthy, balanced eco-system - sustainable for man & beast.

Some of us don't ride the adulation train; we demand progress, away from the swamp lands. We demand all day one campaign PROMISES be upheld. Excuses for him don't cut it & won't make him be responsible for his word. Only a cad would endanger the people by carte' blanche cutting of regulations w/o review and then the faux EPA chief pays $57,000 for a private phone booth. Pa-leeze give it a break. I'm tired of this nonsense.

During the campaign, Trump promised to cut regulations at EPA and many other agencies, and he was elected on that basis. He said he was going to revive the clean coal industry and he was elected on that basis. Scott Pruitt is delivering on Trump's campaign promises with regards to EPA and the coal industry, and apparently doing a great job.

Judy Wrote: (first post)

I wonder why Obama didn't fix this? He had 8 years and all the environmentalists on his instant dial. I've known for decades about the hazards of Teflon coatings. People need to ask "why doesn't it stick?" The food doesn't stick because the coating disconnects or peels off from the pan attached to your food, and you eat it.

The chemicals in Teflon interact with the food causing a chemical reaction. During this chemical reaction, the molecules of the chemicals in the coating interact with the molecules of the food being cooked and separate from the coating on the pan, entering the food. That's why it doesn't stick. When you eat the food with the chemical molecules, the molecules enter your body, they then become part of you, they also become part of your waste, this waste enters the sewer system, waste treatment plants do not remove these types of chemicals, just like they don't remove medications when you flush them down the toilet, the sewer system eventually empties all of these chemicals into the water supply which eventually make their way to our oceans and contaminate whales. Then people complain about the water supply they contaminated by eating foods cooked on Teflon-coated pans and medications they flushed down the toilet instead of disposing of them in the trash.

Then people accuse someone who doesn't do any of this of endangering fetuses with toxicity because ..... oh yeah, they're a Trump Supporter.

I don't think alerting people that eating food cooked on Teflon-coated pans means they're eating these chemicals is "wasting our time."

But, you're certainly entitled to your opinions, artist.