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    "Thought Crime Bill" Could Ensnare Peaceful Activi



    "Thought Crime Bill" Could Ensnare Peaceful Activists
    Fears that government could define "Internet radicalization" and criticism as terrorism mount, violent comments left on messageboards by trolls could be exploited to entrap peaceful 9/11 truthers

    Paul Joseph Watson
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    Friday, October 26, 2007



    A new bill that recently passed the House and is headed for Senate approval has online activists worried that the vague definitions used for defining the Internet's contribution to radicalization of potential terrorists could lead to a government crackdown on talk radio, free speech and the 9/11 truth movement.

    The bill is H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 and passed Congress after a bipartisan vote on October 23rd.

    Ostensibly, the bill targets United States citizens because of its constant reference to basic Constitutional protections, but this has led some to fear that it is intended to shut down free speech on the Internet and stifle patriot and alternative talk radio networks.

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    The bill defines "violent radicalization" as "The process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change."

    It further defines "homegrown terrorism" as "The use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

    The term "planned use" has caused concerns that "thinking about violence," ie thought crime, could be considered a terrorist act. But since to plan violence must involve some form of planning, whether that be drawing up bomb diagrams or making violent statements, the real threat seems to have been overlooked.

    A disturbing trend in recent months has been the proliferation of violent postings on messageboards of websites affiliated with peaceful 9/11 truth organizations.

    These messages are being posted by shameless trolls, COINTELPRO operatives and their stooges in a clear effort to discredit the 9/11 truth movement by making us all appear to be crazy nutcases who plan to commit terrorist acts.

    Establishment media hacks like Glenn Beck have then seized upon the idea to spew propaganda about how the next Timothy McVeigh will come from the truth movement, despite the fact that the leadership of the truth movement have practiced what they preach all along, by engaging in completely peaceful protests and other forms of non-violent educational activism.

    The bill's reference to how "The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens," is shocking.

    Remember, the bill is not aimed at "Al-Qaeda" websites or arabic forums that post alleged Bin Laden video tapes, it is aimed at American citizens using American based websites, like the very one you're reading now.
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    The opportunity for the state to seize upon violent posts left by trolls and use them to entrap peaceful 9/11 truthers under the guise that they "promoted violence" should be a major concern for us all.

    Our message is simply this - don't even try it.

    We have preached a doctrine of absolute non-violence from the very beginning and we will continue to do so. Anyone who calls for violence in a messageboard post is either a Fed, a Mom's basement dwelling troll who spends their entire day attempting to debunk the 9/11 truth movement, or a completely deluded moron who is unrepresentative of the vast majority of the 9/11 truth movement.

    Those individuals who advocate violence should be sought out and investigated individually. Any plans to try and entrap prominent 9/11 truth movement figures using guilt by association should be abandoned immediately and we will ceaselessly emphasize this point until this current wave of propaganda subsides.

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    Uhh, they're just coming up with this now? Hmmm, how would this be constitutional?

    This part bothers me tremendously, in light of the fact that US citizens have become very vocal in regards to amnesty for illegal aliens:

    It further defines "homegrown terrorism" as "The use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

    Would this mean that citizens calling their representatives and demanding NO to amnesty would be classified as "coercion"?

    Does that mean Reid, Durbin, et al are trying to "coerce" and "intimidate" US citizens by trying to shove amnesty programs down our throats?

    How about activists who often use threatening language, not only online, but at public rallies?

    Face it, the powers in DC don't like it that we, the citizens, have woken up and are saying enough is enough! NO to anything that has to do with giving amnesty to illegals and it's another way they want to shut conservative talk radio.
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    Calling your senators and telling them we will not vote for them could be considered a threat and coercion.

    Only citizens are affected by this law, the Lords are are not.
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    Wow.

    With this we'd only be shy three psychic drugbabies of turning into Minority Report.
    Then it's off to Demolition Man.

    How long until the Morlock's start making raids?

    This is one truly spine-chilling, mind-numbingly anti-American measure. Beyond suppression of freedom of speech.
    This goes into areas that should only be known in the United States through the telling of Nazi history and cautionary tales/fables.
    That this is being honestly considered as anything other than a literary or theatrical production is a moment to be mourned and taken as a call to action for change screaming in the ears of anyone who still pretends that it's business as usual in the USofA.

    Exercise your right to influence the government before that right, in it's self, becomes a criminal act.

    (not that that last part needs to be said here, amongst this crowd, but I was on thought/rant roll)
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