Thread: Urgent - This May Be Our Last Chance!

I received this email today and thought I'd pass it along:

H.R. 811 -- the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act -- is
moving in the House this week. The Democratic Leadership is putting
its FULL weight behind the compromise reached by Majority Leader Hoyer
and Congressman Rush Holt (which is supported by activists in the
civil rights and voting rights communities). Will you do the same?

This bill may be our last chance to get paper records for every vote,
and mandatory audits, in time for the 2008 presidential election.

Urge your representative to SUPPORT H.R. 811, the Voter Confidence and
Increased Accessibility Act. Call now!

Please contact your representative. Call the capital switch board,
toll free at any of these numbers. Give your representative's name or
your zip to be connected to his office.

1 (800) 828 - 0498
1 (800) 459 - 1887
1 (800) 614 - 2803

The bill would make significant improvements to voting machines in
time for the 2008 elections in the areas of voter verification,
accountability and auditable paper records. This is an urgent call to
action for you, the grassroots, to help achieve a major victory this
week for fair, secure elections.

In 2006, 18,000 votes disappeared in Sarasota due to machine error or
tampering, the exact nature of which still has not been determined.
Passage of H.R. 811 will help prevent "another Sarasota" from
happening in 2008.

As the Sarasota Alliance for Fair Elections (SAFE) puts it, "we need
to get a stake in the ground NOW at the federal level for verified
voting." We couldn't agree more.

Every representative needs to hear from his or her constituents TODAY
so this bill can pass with strong momentum going into the Senate. Time
is of the essence.

Please help by calling your rep. today.


Thank you for your activism on behalf of fair elections and the right
of all voters to have their vote counted, and counted accurately.

-- Your Allies at People For the American Way

This is what i received in regards to this bill.
Please read thru this.

a "compromise" bill, what this means is that Congress has compromised the will of the people, the good of the nation, in favor of industry lobbyists.


Dear fellow lovers of democracy:

Last spring, the House Administration Committee's email system was almost shut down by hordes of citizens protesting the fast-tracking of HR 811 and voicing their concerns. Perhaps Congress is trying an end-run now, having announced that the vote would not come up for two weeks. In any case, we have heard that the vote could come as soon as this Wednesday, immediately after the summer recess.

I usually do my best not to inundate you or take advantage of your patience (even though it might not always seem that way). I am breaking that rule now. Should HR 811 pass as written, our fragile system will have a hard time recovering from it.

Please read the synopsis below and then the article, including how to contact MoveOn, who are again supporting the bill and using misleading information to persuade their members. While there are good points to the legislation, there are disturbing points as well (discussed below) which are simply a deal-breaker. Don't take my word for it. Read on and decide for yourself.

If democracy as we have known it is precious to you, contact your representatives on Tuesday and tell them to vote no on HR 811. http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ Here is the link to help you find your own rep.

Democracy never needed you more.

Joan Brunwasser, voting integrity ed., OpEdNews

synopsis:
The "compromise" version could easily be called the "Microsoft Bill". This version makes secret vote counting federal law, making it a federal crime for anyone to tell the public what they find when they look at the code counting 80% of the nation's votes. And the only people allowed to look at that code are "qualified" people under very specific circumstances who sign nondisclosure agreements.

If this law had been in place in 2003, Bev Harris of BlackBoxVoting.ORG would be sitting in a federal prison for her act of patriotism, which exposed to the national sunshine the diabolical nature of Diebold Election System's proprietary, secret vote counting software.

Because of its complexities, the bill would also subject every state in the nation to unlimited electoral litigation challenges. Think about Florida 2000 if you want to imagine the outcomes from having the courts decide our elections for us.

Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne ... __28th.htm

September 2, 2007

MoveOn and HR811 (the Holt Bill)

By Nancy Tobi

Many people have emailed me asking what does the NH Fair Elections Committee think of the so-called "compromise" version of the Holt bill being brought to the US House floor this coming Wednesday.

They want to know, how should they vote in MoveOn's latest poll, asking their feelings about the bill. We see this as a good sign, that after months and months of pro-811 propaganda and ignoring the voting integrity movement's concerns, MoveOn seems to be open to a new look at their steadfast and inexplicable support of HR811.

So here's the straight poop. When they say the latest version is a "compromise" bill, what this means is that Congress has compromised the will of the people, the good of the nation, in favor of industry lobbyists. In December 2006 wethepatriots.org submitted to every cosponsor of HR811, including NH Congressman Hodes, a letter in opposition to HR811 with suggested amendments. This letter was signed by 800 American citizens and organizations.

How many industry lobbyists does it take to outweigh 800 ordinary Americans? Apparently as many as can fit into a room with the House Administration Committee.

In July 2007 Mark Crispin Miller revealed what Congressman Rush Holt's counsel had to say to voting integrity activists about this latest "compromise" version of HR811:

There is no doubt that Rush Holt has, in working on his bill, unduly heeded the concerns of interested corporations. This is not a speculation but a fact, which was revealed to me straightforwardly by Holt's own counsel, Michelle Mulder, who is, of course, a fervent advocate for HR 811. Recently Michelle tried, via email, to respond to some of the concerns expressed by me and several other activists, at one point asserting that the bill will not legitimize the use of secret vote-counts.

In response, I pointed out that the continued use of DRE machines, which HR 811 would permit, makes secret vote-counting inevitable, since there's no way to watch computers add up votes, or send them on to tabulators, or manage any other data.

And then I made this second point about the actual secretiveness enabled by Holt's bill:

"Unless this point in the legislation has been changed, the bill as marked up in committee now stipulates that the e-voting software be available only to 'qualified' individuals, who must sign strict non-disclosure agreements."

(This was an extraordinary change, because the early version of the bill had ordered that such software must be readily available to everyone. See my vlog on this.)

And here is Mulder's staggering reply:

"That's not what the bill said when introduced. Therefore, you can take up your concerns with Microsoft and others in the proprietary software industry. During Committee proceedings they lobbied very heavily against the language that was in the bill as introduced and none of you lobbied in favor of the language that was in the bill as introduced, and thus, the software industry won. It's very simple, really."

In other words, companies like Microsoft, Diebold and ES&S had problems with the early version of Holt's bill; and Holt himself not only listened to them, but obliged them, so that his "election reform" bill would now make our system even more undemocratic than it is already. Of this development Holt's office made no public mention, as if those private companies' dictation of the law was no big deal.

And this, Holt's counsel says, is not Holt's problem. In fact, it's our fault, for not having "lobbied very heavily" for our position (which would have been a little hard, since Holt's people have consistently refused to talk or listen to the bill's opponents).

In any case, if we don't like it, we can somehow "take up our concerns" with Microsoft et al.--and do so without Rush Holt's help.

The NH Fair Elections Committee remains opposed to HR811, and we hope to be reporting, after Wednesday's vote in the House, that our two NH Democratic representatives will have realized they are in Washington to represent New Hampshire, whose key stakeholder constituencies (NH Secretary Bill Gardner, the NH Association of City and Town Clerks, the NH Fair Elections Committee) uniformly oppose the bill, and not the Democratic Party, which seems intent to ram it through come hell or highwater.

After telling lobbyists representing state and local election officials the bill would not come up for a vote for at least two weeks, the Party leadership has intentionally put HR811 on this week's calendar. No doubt, they are hoping to stem the tide of overwhelming citizen opposition because of the Labor Day holiday.

They must remember how citizen outcry literally shut down the House Administration Committee's e-mail system when that Committee tried to fast track the bill to the House floor for a speedy and thoughtless vote of passage in the Spring.

Now, MoveOn is issuing yet another of their communications about the bill, replete with misinformation - or is it just information "left out" when they fail to acknowledge or inform their membership that the vast majority of grassroots activists oppose the bill?

But what's different this time is they are asking their members how they feel about it. If you have a MoveOn vote, now is the time to tell them NO TO 811.

Voting integrity activists have been telling MoveOn how we feel about the bill for a long time. It is true that last year, many activists supported the Holt Bill, but at this time every single true grassroots leadership organization opposes it. This includes BlackBoxVoting, VotersUnite, the Coalition for Voting Integrity, the NH Fair Elections Committee, and more. Within a 2-week period in the dead of winter, last December, 2006, wethepatriots.org collected nearly 2,000 signatures of citizens and organizations opposed to the bill.

We have a list of at least 100 citizen action groups and leaders opposed to this legislation (shown at bottom of this post).

The fact is, MoveOn has been wrong on this issue since day one. They and Common Cause have been selling the bill to their members as a "paper trail" bill, ignoring the dangers and complexities in the bill's language, and falsely delivering a message of hope to their members, who have come to believe that they can trust without question what these two organizations tell them.

HR811 is an extraordinarily complex bill. Most ordinary citizens don't want to wade through its twisted language. Maybe the leaders of these organizations don't want to read it. But how about our Congressional representatives, who we pay to do that? Do they have time to read the bill?

If MoveOn can change its tune, now is the time. The nation's welfare is at stake.

The "compromise" version could easily be called the "Microsoft Bill". This version makes secret vote counting federal law, making it a federal crime for anyone to tell the public what they find when they look at the code counting 80% of the nation's votes. And the only people allowed to look at that code are "qualified" people under very specific circumstances who sign nondisclosure agreements.

If this law had been in place in 2003, Bev Harris of BlackBoxVoting.ORG would be sitting in a federal prison for her act of patriotism, which exposed to the national sunshine the diabolical nature of Diebold Election System's proprietary, secret vote counting software.

Because of its complexities, the bill would also subject every state in the nation to unlimited electoral litigation challenges. Think about Florida 2000 if you want to imagine the outcomes from having the courts decide our elections for us.

The NH Dept. of State has estimated the bill will cost NH property tax payers $4MIL for the first 5 years and $11 MIL each year after that for the next 15 years.

The bill mandates an entirely new, unnecessary, and untested technology for every polling place in the nation. It will turn New Hampshire's election system on its head. It will turn the nation's election syseitems on their heads.

Tell MoveOn "NO TO HR811" and tell your Congressional reps the same.

We can do better than this. And our system of representational democracy can not afford the full frontal attack HR811 wages against it.



CITIZEN ACTION GROUPS AND LEADERS OPPOSED TO THE HOLT BILL:

1. "Candidate for Congress CA District 12 Libertarian Party 2004 & 2006" Harland Harrison CA
2. 30th District Democrats WA 98023
3. 8th Ward 24th Division Philadelphia;
4. Aaron Freeman, comedian and actor
5. Abbe Waldman Delozier, Editor, "Hacked"
6. Al Kolwicz, Election Watchdog, Colorado
7. Arvada Peace & Justice
8. Atlantic Media Ltd. Portsmouth NH
9. AUDITAZ (Americans United for Integrity and Transparency in Elections)
10. Barry Gordon, radio talk host, former president of SAG, actor
11. Bev Harris, BlackBoxVoting.ORG
12. Black Box Voting
13. Bruce Funk, County Clerk, Emery County, Utah
14. Bruce O'Dell, Computer security systems analyst and election integrity activist
15. Camille Khattar , Precinct Chair 14, Democratic Party of Collin County, North Texas
16. Central New York Voting Integrity Committee
17. Citizens to Stop Computerized Voting Richard Borkowski Seattle WA 98102
18. Coalition for Visible Ballots
19. Coalition for Voting Integrity
20. Coloradoans for Voting Integrity CFVI
21. Columbia County Citizens for Human Dignity
22. Columbia County Democratic Central Committee –
23. CONCENTRIC MEDIA
24. Democracy for America - Temecula Valley
25. Democracy for Colorado
26. Democracy for Flagstaff
27. Democracy for New Hampshire
28. Democracy for New Hampshire Fair Elections Committee
29. Democracy for Oklahoma City Co-coordinator - Democratic Precinct Chair - Oklahoma Democratic Party IT Committee member Linda Wade Oklahoma City OK
30. Democracy for Oregon
31. Democracy for Texas/Bastrop Co chapter Marsha Correira Elgin TX 78621
32. Ed Asner, Actor
33. Editor and Publisher - Totally Fixed and Rigged Magazine; President - Positronic Design
34. Editor/Publisher - Online Review of Books & Current Affairs J.F. Miglio
35. Election Defense Alliance
36. Election Integrity
37. Election Integrity Task Force
38. Freedom Socialist Party
39. Harland Harrison, Candidate for Congress, CA District 12, Libertarian Party, 2004 & 2006
40. Harvey Wasserman, Author, election integrity journalist
41. Howard Zinn, author and historian
42. Jackson Action Jackson MS
43. Jasper County Democrats Elliott Denniston Webb City MO 64870
44. Jeanie Williams-West , Local Democratic Party Executive Committee, State central committee, local parish executive committee
45. Jeffco Democrats Jefferson County
46. Joan Brunwasser, Voting Integrity Editor, OpEdNews
47. Josh Mitteldorf
48. Larry L. Jackson , 2006 Chair 30th District Democrats
49. Lassen Progressives, California
50. Latinos for America
51. Mark Crispin Miller, Author
52. Mary Patee , H D # 27 Chair Jeffco Democrats, Jefferson Count - Arvada Peace & Justice
53. Memphis Operation Election Integrity
54. Merrimack Town Democratic Chair - New Hampshire State Democratic Party Committee Member Andrew Sylvia Merrimack NH 3054
55. Midwest Minutemen
56. National Ballot Integrity Project
57. New Hampshire Ballot Integrity Task Force
58. New Hampshire Citizens Alliance
59. New Hampshire PIRG
60. New Hampshire Women Making a Difference
61. Northeast Citizens for Responsible Media
62. OpEd News
63. Paul Lehto, Election law attorney
64. Paul Rogat Loeb, Author and activist
65. People Who Give a Damn, Inc.
66. Philadelphians Against Santorum
67. Pima County Democratic Party Election Integrity Committee
68. Pinellas County Democratic Party
69. Precinct 14 Democratic Party of Collin County North Texas
70. Presents for the Planet
71. Progressive Democrats of America-- Metro San Diego chapter
72. Protect California Ballots
73. Psephos, San Diego, CA
74. Representative Andrew J. Edwards, Nashua, NH 03062
75. Representative Eileen Ehlers, Hooksett, NH
76. Representative Lily Mesa, Manchester, NH
77. Rob Kall, Owner and Chief Editor, OpEdNews
78. Sacramento For Democracy
79. San Diego Democracy For America
80. San Diego Metro-Progressive Democrats of America
81. San Francisco Election Integrity League
82. SAVE R VOTE, Riverside County, CA
83. Senator Jackie Cilley, NH District 6
84. Show Me The Vote – Missouri
85. Steve Freeman, Election activist
86. Steve Heller, Diebold Election Systems whistleblower
87. The San Mateo Election Integrity League
88. Thom Hartmann, Journalist
89. TrueVoteSanDiego
90. United Methodist Church Arvada CO
91. Vickie Karp, Editor, "Hacked"
92. Vote Rescue, Austin, Texas
93. Vote.org
94. Voters Unite
95. We Do Not Concede
96. Where's the Paper
97. White Bear Lake Peace Group
98. Women for Democracy and Fair Elections
99. Women Making a Difference - NH
100. YubaNet News
101. Congressman Dennis Kucinich
102. Congressman Ed Markey



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Thanks,

Gosh after reading all that I really don't
know what to believe.

One thing I do know,House & Senate Bills should be simplified and easily understood by average people.

I think they are made complex on purpose and even our congressmen cannot understand them.

Guess I will go try to read the bill myself.

Me too. The ironic thing is that right before posting this message, I had a momentary feeling of doubt. Considering their push of electronic voting machines, I was wondering whether they were trying to pull a fast one over the American voters by making it "seem" like they were doing something beneficial. But I pushed it out of my head thinking I was being too paranoid! Now I know better! Next time something similar comes up, I'll either do some solid research before hand, or I'll rephrase my post to ask whether anyone on the forums has heard of a particular piece of legislation and get more feedback that way.

Thanks for your very enlightening post BrightNail. I'll be more thorough next time!

OK, then, where do we stand on this? Do we endorse the bill by calling or what????

Never mind. I know, call to have the bill voted down. Will do.

"Unless this point in the legislation has been changed, the bill as marked up in committee now stipulates that the e-voting software be available only to 'qualified' individuals, who must sign strict non-disclosure agreements."

A recipe for our destruction. A member of the CFR must be responsible for this one.

H.R. 811 has 216 co-sponsors, which certainly should give it an excellent chance of being passed! However, beyond that, I have no further "light to shed" on how we should respond to it.