Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

Ron Paul Keeps Winning as Supporters Prepare For a Battle With GOP Old Guard

Submitted by Allan Stevo on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:48

Four years ago, Nevada State GOP insiders so disliked Ron Paul supporters that they actually walked out of the state convention and turned off the lights behind them. In a windowless assembly room with some 2,000 people in it, one might imagine the terror this might cause. In what had been an otherwise orderly meeting, this move took place when it became clear that Ron Paul would sweep the Nevada delegation to the Republican National Convention. A bunch of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington types, inspired by Ron Paul, got involved in their party to effect change, and the party insiders didn’t like having these idealists around.

This year looks a little different. Ron Paul’s supporters have assumed a significant portion of the Republican Party leadership and Ron Paul’s supporters seem like they will show up in droves as delegates to assure their candidate is the best represented in Nevada. At the Nevada Republican Convention this year, 25 of the 28 Nevada delegates will be decided.

A showdown is ahead at the convention in the western corner of Nevada in the town of Sparks, where on Friday and Saturday, Ron Paul supporters will culminate their takeover of the Nevada GOP at all levels after being so brazenly rebuffed in 2008.

That showdown will be between the old guard of the Nevada GOP – the Romney-supporting, McCain-supporting, Bush-supporting neo-conservative establishment – and the more numerous and active conservative and libertarian base of the Nevada Republican Party.

Scheduled to speak the afternoon of May 5 at the state convention is Ron Paul himself.
The harder and more violently the GOP establishment fights the organized grassroots of the Republican Party, the more fervently those grassroots seem to fight back. “Blowback” is how the CIA refers to this phenomenon when referencing political struggles abroad. That same type of blowback seems to be taking place across the GOP. Another notable recent example being in Alaska, where the conservative and libertarian base of the Republican Party are pushing back against a moderate and corporatist establishment.

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Trouble In Tulsa: 1st Congressional District Complaint

Submitted by Steve Dickson on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 10:40


The following story was first reported by The McCarville Report on May 3rd, 2012.

A political party is governed by rules and procedures. When rules and procedures are not followed the will of the members is not represented. One of the most basic and fundamental principles of the Republican Party is adherence to the Rule of Law. In our Republic, the Rule of Law (a republic) protects the minority from tyranny of the majority (a democracy). Similarly, the Rules of the Republican Party should be held as the "law" governing the party. When violated by those in power, action must be taken. In this case, it is - GOP State Chairman Matt Pinnell is quoted in the McCarville report saying “We are reviewing the complaint and talking with all parties involved. Ultimately it’s an issue that may be addressed at State Convention.”.
Oklahoma has 43 National Delegates to the Republican National Convention. Three of those are RNC members: the Chairman, the National Committeeman, and the National Committeewoman. Three are chosen at each of the five District Conventions, and 25 are chosen as "at-large" Delegates during the State Convention (to be held on May 12th). On April 14th, the First Congressional District Convention was held at the Renaissance Hotel and Convention Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Here is a video of what transpired:




In response to the events shown in the video, the following complaint was filed with the 1st Congressional District Committee. It should be noted that the complaint was submitted by Tulsa County GOP Chairman J.B. Alexander:
Republicans from Oklahoma's 1st Congressional District do hereby submit the following complaints in regard to the 1st District Convention held on Saturday, April 14, 2012:

Complaint No. 1: In violation of the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party (16f) the following occurred: The 1st Congressional District Chairwoman, Grace Farmer, failed to receive the reports of the Credentials Committee and the Rules Committee and instead held the Election of the Convention Chairman at approximately 9:15 AM in the absence of an established quorum and any duly adopted Credentials or Rules Reports and in addition, prior to the scheduled close of Convention Registration. Subsequently, the Convention Chairman, Jim Williamson, proceeded with the Credentials and Rules Reports as well as the further organization and business of the Convention.

Complaint No. 2: In violation of the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party (18e) and the Rules of the 1st Congressional District Republican Convention (VII.A) the following occurred: The Election of Delegates and Alternates to the Republican National Convention as well as Presidential Elector and Alternate were not called for or announced by roll call vote by each County.

Complaint No. 3: In violation of the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party (19b) and the Rules of the 1st Congressional District Republican Convention (III.B) the following occurred: A recess until 3:00 PM was duly motioned, seconded and adopted by the Convention. At 3:00 PM, a motion from Jake Peters was made to “suspend the rules and re-enact a modified version of the same rules, in which the remaining offices shall be filled through a live runoff among the top two vote-getters for each position” in the interest of sparing time since each “instant” ballot was taking almost an hour to count, positions were being declared won by as little as a half-vote margin (which would, under any normal election, trigger a recount and take an additional hour), Convention Rules stressed that we had to adjourn by 2:00 PM or risk penalties by the hotel, Delegates were uncomfortable having the ballots counted at a later date at an unspecified location and this motion would have allowed the Convention to finalize the election transparently and prior to adjournment. The Convention Chairman ignored the main motion and asked for a quorum count. A point of order was made by Jake Peters as to the motion already made and the point of order was denied by the Convention Chair. A simple head count was made in which the result was 138 Delegates present and the Convention Chairman ruled that there was not a quorum which he defined as 186 Delegates. Further points of order were made regarding the Rules that require the quorum be calculated with the weighted delegate votes and the Convention Chairman refused to acknowledge them even going so far as threatening to have Delegates ejected by the Sergeant at Arms. In addition, even had a simple head count sufficed for the calculation of the quorum, State Party Rule 19b states that “once a quorum is established, a quorum shall be deemed to be present until fewer than two thirds (2/3) of the original quorum remain” which based on the Convention Chair’s ruling that the original quorum equaled 186 Delegates, a quorum should have been deemed to be present until fewer than 124 Delegates remained.

Complaint No. 4: In violation of Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised (11th ed.), pp. 348-349 the following occurred: Jake Peters appealed the ruling of the Convention Chair that no quorum existed and was seconded but the Chair refused to state the question and instead replied, “You can appeal the ruling of the Chair until the cows come home but the business of the Convention, we are going to be in recess until they announce the final vote. That’s what’s gonna (sic) happen.”

Complaint No. 5: In violation of Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised (11th ed.), 73 and pp. 650-652, the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party (3a) and the Rules of the 1st Congressional District Republican Convention (VIII.E) the following occurred: After the Convention Chair ignored another point of order and threatened to eject Delegate David Tackett for making a point of order, Jake Peters addressed the Chair with a motion to remove the Convention Chair but the microphones had been turned off and the Chair did not recognize the motion. Jake Peters then addressed the Convention Delegates and made a motion to remove the Chair which was seconded and then adopted by the Convention body. However, the Convention Chair ignored the carried motion and continued to preside over the Convention. Jake Peters then called for nominations for a new Convention Chair from the Convention body. The body nominated Jake Peters and elected him unanimously but the previous Convention Chair ordered the Sergeant at Arms to eject Jake Peters further in violation of Robert’s Rules requiring a majority vote by the assembly.

We, the undersigned registered Republicans from Oklahoma's 1st Congressional District, do hereby respectively request an impartial review of the complaints herein and would pray that the Oklahoma 1st Congressional District Committee take appropriate action including the removal and replacement of the 1st Congressional District Chairwoman and Vice-Chairman pursuant to the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party. Furthermore, in light of the numerous rule violations that occurred as detailed above, we pray that Oklahoma's 1st Congressional District Convention be reconvened in order to conduct the convention business in a manner consistent with the Rules of the Oklahoma Republican Party which require the seating of delegates prior to electing permanent officers and organization of said convention and also require a Roll Call vote by County to determine the election of Delegates and Alternate Delegates to the Republican National Convention as well as Elector and Alternate Elector.

The complaint was rejected by a 14-3 vote of the 1st District Committee. It now goes to the State GOP for consideration, and resolution at the upcoming State Convention. The timing of a resolution to addressing this complaint is outlined in the Rules of the Republican Party:

RULE NO. 20

Contests: Resolution by States

All contests arising in any state electing district delegates by district conventions shall be decided by its state convention or, if the state convention shall not meet prior to the national convention, then by its state committee. Only contests affecting delegates elected or selected at large shall be presented to the Republican National Committee; provided, however, if the contest regarding a district delegate arises out of the irregular or unlawful action of the state committee or state convention, the Republican National Committee may take jurisdiction thereof and hear and determine the same under the procedures provided in Rule Nos. 22 and 23.

Both Tulsa County Chairman J.B. Alexander and State GOP Chairman Matt Pinnell (who are not Ron Paul supporters, it should be noted) are to be commended for their efforts to address these issues. Also to be commended are those who have chosen to follow the rules established by the Republican Party to resolve disputes. The election of National Delegates, Alternates, Electors, and Alternate Electors is one of the most serious tasks we face as members of a political party. There have been too many instances of "issues" in too many States, and it is time for them to stop.It is time for all sides to play by the rules, and abide by the results.

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Matt Drudge tweets about Ron's delegate count- chances for brokered convention doubled

Submitted by emalvini on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 12:15
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Matt Drudge tweets about Ron's delegate count- chances for brokered convention doubled

Drudge Report ‏ @tweetdrudge

Anyone watching the Ron Paul delegate count? RNC brokered convention chances have doubled Chances of an RNC Brokered Convention have Doubled in the last week #intrade
Retweeted by Ian Shilling

here it is to retweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/tweetdrudge/s...04705447436290

I am going to add it to tweet of the day

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Total delegate count for Romney and Paul Updated

Submitted by Brad.king92 on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 16:44
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I went through every state one by one and counted up all the delegates myself. Keep in mind that I've only included the delegates that can be 100% confirmed. So this doesn't include states where Ron Paul is expected to get the majority of delegates but have not yet assigned their delegates. Feel free to correct any mistakes you notice

Iowa- Paul:14..? (not official yet)

N. Hampshire- Romney: 7 Paul:3
S. Carolina- Romney:2
Florida- Romney:50
Nevada- Romney: 14 Paul:5
Colorado- Romney: 13 Paul: 13
Missouri- Romney: 12 Paul: 4
Minnesota- Paul: 20
Maine- Paul: 21
Arizona- Romney:29
Michigan- Romney: 16
Wyoming- Romney: 23 Paul:1
Alaska- Romney: 8 Paul: 6
Georgia- Romney: 19
Idaho- Romney 29
Massachusetts- Romney: 38
N. Dakota- Romney:17 Paul: 2
Ohio- Romnney 38
Oklahoma- Romney:13
Tennesse- Romney:16
Vermont- Romney: 9 Paul:4
Virginia- Romney:43 Paul:3
Kansas- Romney:7
Guam- Romney:9
N. Mariana- Romney:9
Virgin Isl.- Romney:3 Paul:1
Alabama- Romney:12
Mississippi- Romney:12
Hawaii- Romney:9 Paul:3
Samoa- Romney:9
Puerto Rico- Romney:20
Illinois- Romney 42
Louisiana- Romney: 5
Maryland- Romney:37
D.C.- Romney:16
Wisconsin- Romney:30
Connecticut- Romney:25
Delaware- Romney:17
NY - Romney:92
R. Island- Romney:12 Paul:4

TOTAL= Romney: 762 Paul:104

(For this update I have included the results from Maine and I have removed Pennsylvania, since the convention hasn't taken place yet.)

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Thank You To Everyone On The Daily Paul! Onward to victory!

Submitted by Youthforliberty... on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 11:13
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I am 19 years old and a delegate for Virginia's 10th Precinct. I just want to express my gratitude to everyone for fighting against the establishment, corruption, market planning, encroachment of civil liberties and the war that has been waged on the American people by our Government. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!!

The daily paul and all of you give me and my generation hope for our future. We see the corruption, the warmongering, the police state, and the inefficiency and unsustainable of the United States Government. It is something that must be tirelessly fought against every single day of ours lives. Ron Paul is the start and we are the future.

This is our victory to take, and it starts from the bottom up. After the recent weeks of Ron Paul victories I am ecstatic and believe that Romney can be beaten. But maybe that is my niavity and young age. The REVOLUTION will happen in America. They can not stop it and the foundation is now. So take these victories with great pride, hold you'r head up and let's ****ing do it!!!!!

If you ever feel alone in you'r fight for liberty, know that there is, quite literally, an ARMY behind you ready to be called up to the front lines. Our government will be returned to the people and it is you who will spearhead that return. GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!! LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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Police "assist" in Asheville NC sign wave!

Submitted by minwax on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 09:18
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North Carolina

While highway blogging at our weekly location in Asheville NC yesterday, we were asked to leave by the local police. Police stated that we were causing traffic to back up on the highway below us. This was not true as traffic continued to flow at a normal pace.

They threatened to arrest us if we did not comply, but we stood our ground.....Ron Paul 2012!

Here's a link to some of the photos: Last Push Sign Wave | Facebook



Flint Street Bridge Ashevillle NC.
































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Michael Savage - Israel Does NOT Come First! America Does! - April 11, 2012



Published on Apr 30, 2012 by Conservative1001BG

Savage changing his tone...for now

Mitt Romney needs to prove it!

Submitted by EGhost57 on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 12:19
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Mitt Romney needs to prove to the Republican party that he should be the candidate to face Obama, and the best way to do that is to win a debate.

It was pretty obvious to everyone that in all of the Republican debates it could never be said that Mitt Romney had won. He always slithered by relatively unscathed, but not a single win. He never made waves, and he still hasn't.

He has no choice now but to challenge Ron Paul to a debate! He must prove to the Republican party that he can beat Obama by first beating Paul. Without that proof, he will not achieve the support to win in November. Yet, we all know that it will never happen because Mitt Romney knows he would lose the debate to Ron Paul.

That is why I am calling for Ron Paul to challenge Mitt Romney to a debate, to prove to the GOP once and for all, who the nominee of the Republican party is going to be.

Let's go Ron Paul!

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Accurate description of current political environment and Ron Paul movement

Submitted by johngaltamerica on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 09:14
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I'm a 29 year old. I'm mostly libertarian and definitely a supporter of Ron Paul. I've been visiting dailypaul.com for sometime and haven't contributed to the forums until now.

What prompted me to contribute? I'm reading "Capitalism" by Ayn Rand and the following quote from the book jumped off the page at me. It's amazing how accurate the following describes the current political environment and at the end of the section, how accurate it describes the person and movement of Ron Paul.

I look forward to your reactions...

From Ayn Rand's "Capitalism", specifically, the essay "The New Fascism: Rule by Consensus"

A mixed economy is a mixture of freedom and controls--with no principles, rules, or theories to define either. Since the introduction of controls necessitates and leads to further controls, it is an unstable, explosive mixture which, ultimately, has to repeal the controls or collapse into dictatorship. A mixed economy has no principles to define its policies, its goals, its laws--no principles to limit the power of its government. The only principle of a mixed economy--which, necessarily, has to remain unnamed and unacknowledged--is that no one's interests are safe, everyone's interests are on a public auction block, and anything goes for anyone who can get away with it. Such a system--or, more precisely, anti-system--breaks up a country into an ever-growing number of enemy camps, into economic groups fighting one another for self-preservation in an indeterminate mixture of defense and offense, as the nature of such a jungle demands. While, politically, a mixed economy preserves the semblance of an organized society with a semblance of law and order, economically it is the equivalent of the chaos that ruled China for centuries: a chaos of robber gangs looting—and draining—the productive elements of the country.

A mixed economy is rule by pressure groups. It is an amoral, institutionalized civil war of special interests and lobbies, all fighting to seize a momentary control of the legislative machinery, to extort some special privilege at one another’s expense by an act of government—i.e., by force. In the absence of individual rights, in the absence of any moral or legal principles, a mixed economy’s only hope to preserve its precarious semblance of order, to restrain the savage, desperately rapacious groups it itself has created, and to prevent the legalized plunder from running over into plain, unlegalized looting of all by all—is compromise; compromise on everything and in every realm—material, spiritual, intellectual—so that no group would step over the line by demanding too much and topple the whole rotted structure. If the game is to continue, nothing can be permitted to remain firm, solid, absolute, untouchable; everything (and everyone) has to be fluid, flexible, indeterminate, approximate. By what standard are anyone’s actions to be guided? By the expediency of any immediate moment.

The only danger, to a mixed economy, is any not-to-be-compromised value, virtue or idea. The only threat is any uncompromising person, group, or movement. The only enemy is integrity.
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