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    Note to GOP: Ron Paul would have won

    Submitted by C_T_CZ on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:13
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    For the next many months, we're going to hear pundit after pundit, politician after politician, and spokeshole after spokeshole wax poetic about the 2012 campaign and why the GOP lost. They will all go on and on and on, regurgitating talking points and theories. None of it matters.

    Deep down, all they need to know is this:

    Ron Paul would have won. In a landslide.

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    Ron Paul: We're Broke and Already Over Fiscal Cliff - Bloomberg - Nov. 8, 2012

    Submitted by Temporalist on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 13:49
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    Video at the page link:

    "If you had sound money you don't have deficits because you can't print money."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/...

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    The Ron Paul Effect: How the GOP Threw the Election By Disenfranchising Ron Paul Supporters

    Submitted by sailingaway on Thu, 11/08/2012 - 12:45

    "New analysis reveals that in no less than five states, Romney’s margin of loss to President Obama in the general election was less than the number of votes received by Ron Paul in that state’s primary.

    [Here's a screenshot I made of the table if someone wanted to embed it, I don't know how: http://i.imgur.com/aAXgO.png ]

    In Florida, for example, Obama defeated Romney by 46,000 votes; meanwhile, Ron Paul received over 117,000 votes in the primary. If only 40% of these Ron Paul Republicans stayed home on Election Day, it would have been enough to cost Romney the state and its 29 electoral votes.

    A similar case can be made for Connecticut, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Virginia. Along with Florida, these five states account for a whopping 71 Electoral College votes.

    Remember that Obama earned 332 electoral votes compared to Romney’s 206. Had Romney won these five states, they would have been sufficient to give him a narrow 277-261 victory over the President."

    more: http://www.policymic.com/articles/18815/the-ron-paul-effect-...

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    Republicans Rage as the Great Burning Arrives

    Thursday, November 08, 2012 – by Staff Report

    Republicans descend into civil war as Tea Party movement vows to drive party further to the right ... The Republican Party was last night descending into a civil war over control of its political future, as recriminations raged about its failure to oust Barack Obama and take control of the US Senate. Some conservatives warned colleagues that they risked annihilation by refusing to change and appeal to the women, younger and ethnically-diverse voters who had stood by Barack Obama since 2008. Yet many supporters of the Tea Party movement – whose agenda was rebuked across the US – claimed Mitt Romney had actually not been conservative enough, vowing to drive the party further to the Right. – UK Telegraph

    Dominant Social Theme: Republicans are out of touch. Democrats are not. The Tea Party is dead.

    Free-Market Analysis: Post-election, the US Republican Party will go about the business of tearing itself to pieces, as well it should. As observers of directed history here at the Daily Bell, watching the past ten years of politics presented via the prism of what we call the Internet Reformation has been instructive indeed.

    There IS no real (legitimate) Republican Party left, from what we can tell. Before the violent and thuggish deconstruction of the libertarian Ron Paul Revolution, Ron Paul was on his way to taking over the Party. We watched it happen.

    Crowds were growing, delegates were falling into line. Ron Paul was attracting bigger and bigger audiences. The powers-that-be had tried everything – ignoring him, ridiculing him ... even controlling the "movement" by placing "handlers" around him surreptitiously.

    Finally, as none of it truly worked, the top GOP began to use violence and outright fraud. Ron Paul delegates were intimidated, beaten up and banned. Rules were changed, votes were ignored and the election, which was trending toward Paul, went to Romney.

    It is important to assert these things because the stealing of an election has already gone down the memory hole. Of course, in this analysis, we should offer a further reality: Ron Paul is not insane. He likely didn't ever intend to win and sabotaged his own campaign in evident and obvious ways.

    But we don't begrudge him that. He intended to educate and succeeded beyond anything he'd ever imagined. He succeeded because in the US – in the West in general – there's a great craving for freedom and economic literacy. This craving, nurtured by Paul's financial literacy, has been inordinately strengthened by his four-year historical and economic lecture tour.

    Millions have been exposed to the brilliant, clarified concepts of human action and have come to understand the corrosive effects of the modern central bank business cycle. This knowledge will continue to percolate. It runs like acid through the fragile facade of illiteracy and socialist lies that the power elite constructed over centuries to try to obscure the truth about human relations.

    As the veil shrivels and smokes, one cannot look away. Once one begins to understand the truth about how the world works, there is no going back. The shock to the system is profound. It tends to take over one's life. The idea that every nook and cranny of one's consciousness has been controlled and "directed" is an overwhelming concept.

    People who come to such conclusions find their lives have changed. It is physically and mentally impossible to ignore it. And it is difficult not to proselytize because the reality is so profound.

    For the mainstream media already it is as if the Ron Paul candidacy, which shook the establishment from top to bottom, never existed. But ignoring the candidacy and its violent repression is a bit like trying to ignore the aftermath of an earthquake. The ruin is all around you and trying to pretend it is not there won't make it go away. The political landscape in our view has changed irredeemably, as we long ago believed it would.

    We have tended to believe that William Clinton's presidency was the first Internet presidency and that George Bush's was the second. After that, we used to write, we didn't know what would happen to the faux-political consensus because the Internet itself, acting like a huge magnifying glass, would have presented the truth about US politics to an increasingly alienated electorate.

    What would have become clear is that the "directed" view of history is the correct one: The power elite controls monopoly central banking and has used its unfathomable capital flows to reshape society toward globalism.

    Agents have apparently been planted at the top of every facility that matters, from the military to universities, to the media, to think tanks, to political parties and legislatures. With just a few powerful people placed at the proper places, the elites successfully manipulate conversation and steer the world toward the internationalism they prefer.

    Society is controlled by intimidation, censorship and fear. Ever expanding spy technology wielded by invasive and growing Intel agencies is the methodology of choice. Of course, you can never have too much control, or too much economic ruin, or too any wars.

    The elites cannot rest. They have been exposed by the Internet just as the Gutenberg press exposed the power elite of the day 600 years ago. Counterattacks have been mounted in the past decade, and especially recently. False flags abound now and even apparently neo-Fabian economics have been trotted out – perhaps to blunt the freedom movement and distract people from larger truths about free-market thinking.

    But given the choice, people will usually opt for more freedom, not less. More personal control and less statism. And as it is economically impossible to bribe all of the people all of the time, the freedom movement will continue to grow. Once people "get it," the insights become part of their psychological fabric. They grow around it, and it reshapes their lives.

    This has happened to an entire generation of young people thanks to the Internet and Ron Paul's relentless proselytizing. This is the reason that the Republican Party faces a civil war – one that authoritarianism likely cannot win.

    The reality will continue to resonate; the reshaping not just of people's lives but of society will continue and expand and the Internet Reformation itself will evolve in powerful directions. There is nothing more unstoppable than an idea whose time has come. It will overwhelm literally trillions of dollars put in place to stop it and every false flag that is placed in its way.

    Always a certain number of people are unable to lie to themselves and unwilling to live according to the lies of society. It is this group of people – the change makers – that the elites fear the most. They doubtless know from their psychological modeling that such individuals are unable to control the ramifications of their own insights and are inevitably proselytizers for the realities they have discovered.

    It is an ineluctable process, and one that is not voluntary. It proceeds with the relentlessness of water running downhill. The only solution, then, is ruthless culling, apparently, and to say it hasn't occurred to the elites would be to offer up a Pollyannaish perspective.

    In fact, this latest US election has not solidified a renewed "leveling" consensus in that great and "exceptional" country. It has merely clarified the divide and calcified certain manipulative realities.

    Obama is once again president – president thanks to an elite manipulation that offers up only choices palatable to the establishment. But these days there IS an alternative – the consciousness of which is likely percolating up through the masses' "hive mind."

    Conclusion:
    It is in our estimation fairly unstoppable. And it presages a great deal more turmoil and change – financially, politically and socially – before it burns itself out.

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    Ron Paul: Election shows U.S. 'far gone'

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    By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times

    Rep. Ron Paul, whose maverick presidential bids shook the GOP, said in the wake of this week's elections that the country has already veered over the fiscal cliff and he sees no chance of righting ship in a country where too many people are dependent on government.

    "We're so far gone. We're over the cliff," the Texas Republican told Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop" program. "We cannot get enough people in Congress in the next 5-10 years who will do wise things."

    The video can be seen at Ron Paul: We're Broke and Already Over Fiscal Cliff: Video - Bloomberg.


    Mr. Paul, who is retiring after 12 terms in the House, said voters on Tuesday rejected Mitt Romney because he had opposed the government bailout of General Motors and Chrysler.

    "The people in the Midwest voted against him: 'Oh, we have to be taken care of!' So that vote was sort of like what we are laughing at in Greece," Mr. Paul said.

    "People do not want anything cut," he said. "They want all the bailouts to come. They want the Fed to keep printing the money. And they don't believe that we've gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff.

    They think we can patch it over, that we can somehow come up with some magic solution. But you can't have a budgetary solution if you don't change what the role of government should be. As long as you think we have to police the world and run this welfare state, all we are going to argue about is who will get the loot."


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    TYT Mocks Dick Morris's "Landslide" Election Prediction

    Submitted by Shawker on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:34 Video, TV & Movies

    When will the GOP learn anything and stop listening to these idiots?




    Wrong! Dick Morris 'Landslide' Prediction, Weak Explanation - YouTube


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    Charlie "The Chump" Webster, Maine GOP Chair, Won't Seek Another Term

    Submitted by jetguy on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 17:48
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    The Maine GOP chairman who oversaw Republican takeover of the Maine Legislature two years ago but also dealt with controversy during the caucuses and convention won't seek re-election.

    AUGUSTA, Maine (AP) _ Charlie Webster announced his decision in an email two days after Democrats took back control of the House and Senate and an independent won Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe's seat.

    The former state lawmaker from Farmington drew the ire of Ron Paul supporters, some of whom called for his ouster over the way the presidential caucuses were handled. He also was criticized after Paul supporters took over the state convention and failed to be seated at the national convention.

    http://www.mpbn.net/News/MaineNewsArchive/tabid/181/ctl/View...

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    Morton Blackwell Goes on the Record: 2012 RNC, Rule Changes, Virginia Delegation Bus, and More

    Submitted by P.Au.L on Fri, 11/09/2012 - 11:12
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    Morton Blackwell, President of the Leadership Institute and senior member of the RNC Rules Committee, author of the minority report (a counter-measure to the controversial rule changes), goes on the record in a conversation with Carolina Liberty PAC about the 2012 Republican National Convention.




    Morton Blackwell goes on the Record on 2012 RNC - YouTube



    Topics of discussion:

    • Controversial rule changes,
    • RNC bus issues (Virginia delegation bus ordeal),
    • John Boehner reading a scripted rules vote,
    • Ben Ginsberg,
    • Mitt Romney,
    • The impact of RNC actions on Mitt Romney’s campaign, alienation of voters,
    • The NC delegation meeting, NC chairman Robin Hayes, and more.


    More / Source: http://carolinalibertypac...


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