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    Gov. Patrick Criticizes Real ID Act

    Gov. Patrick Criticizes Real ID Act
    By Anne Noyes

    BOSTON, Mass. - May 16, 2007 - The Patrick Administration is asking the federal government to loosen the requirements of the Real ID Act, which mandates stricter security measures on drivers licenses in all 50 states.

    In a letter to the Department of Homeland Security this month, Registrar of Motor Vehicles Anne Collins said that the Real ID Act would require cumbersome documentation and would cost the state some $200 million over five years.

    Collins expects federal officials may relax the law. "I think they want to see progress, see improvements," she said. "They've now heard from a lot of states that without a phased plan, they're going to have a lot more states opting out than opting in."

    If a state opts out of the Real ID Act, its drivers' licenses would no longer be considered valid identification for boarding planes, entering some federal buildings, and other uses.

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    Critics say strict standards for drivers will hike cost, ris

    Critics say strict standards for drivers will hike cost, risks
    Sunday, May 20, 2007
    Elizabeth Auster
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    Washington - So you think getting a driver's license is a hassle now? Just wait.

    As the federal government inches closer to strict national standards for driver's licenses in an effort to keep them from would-be terrorists, critics warn that the new system will be more costly and cumbersome. Critics say it also will potentially expose more Americans to identity theft and government snooping by placing large amounts of personal information into government databases.

    About 10 states have passed bills or resolutions opposing the new approach, and legislation is pending in other states. Participation is voluntary for states, but there is a catch: If states bow out, their citizens won't be able to use licenses or other state-issued ID cards to board commercial airplanes or enter federal facilities.

    In Ohio, officials are moving to comply with the new rules, which have yet to be finalized. But while opposition in Ohio has been more muted than in some states, it is hardly invisible.
    State Rep. Diana Fessler, a Miami County Republican who describes herself as "a bit of a zealot when it comes to privacy issues," this month introduced a resolution urging repeal of the Real ID Act, the 2005 federal law that required the new standards. Fessler says she fears the new system will turn licenses into national ID cards.

    And Christine Link, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio, said her group hopes to mobilize opposition to the new system later this year.

    Meanwhile, some prominent Ohio politicians who support the new approach for security reasons are alarmed about the cost. Two who voted for Real ID law, Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland, a former congressman, and Republican U.S. Sen. George Voinovich, say that the rules are likely to cost Ohio tens of millions of dollars and eat up more than half of the Bureau of Motor Vehicles' 2008 budget.

    Ohio officials estimate it will cost $45 million to start the program and nearly $18 million annually afterward. Those estimates could rise, they say, if the federal government requires, for example, that licenses be made of a more expensive card stock, forcing motor-vehicles offices across the state to install new printers.

    In a letter this month to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Strickland warned that unless the federal government pays for the new equipment and additional workers and offices needed to handle the new rules, Ohioans applying for licenses "are likely to face increased costs and longer waiting times."

    Keith Dailey, a spokesman for Strickland, said last week that depending on what the final federal rules require, Ohioans could wait as long as two weeks for licenses and may need to make more than one trip to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles to allow time to verify identification documents they submit.

    The predictions of higher costs and waiting times stem from the steps that the Homeland Security Department says will be needed to avoid the sort of laxity that allowed Sept. 11 hijackers to fraudulently obtain driver's licenses. The department this year issued proposed rules for the new system and is reviewing public comments before deciding whether to revise them.
    Under the new system, Chertoff said people applying for licenses will have to present documents such as passports, birth certificates or permanent-resident cards to prove their identity and dates of birth. They also will need to show proof of their Social Security numbers and addresses.

    State motor vehicles workers will have to verify the documents and scan or copy them into databases. To avoid theft of the documents, states will have to create security procedures to protect BMV offices and databases. Motor-vehicles workers will have to check with other states to make sure that people don't have licenses from multiple states. And states could have to run criminal checks on BMV employees who work on the new licenses.

    "It's really a matter of common sense," Chertoff said at a news conference announcing the proposed rules. "Every citizen, it seems to me, is better off if they know that their license is harder to forge, their identity is harder to steal and their life is safer in a federal facility."

    The system is supposed to start next May, but under pressure from governors and legislators concerned about the cost and complexity, Chertoff has agreed to allow states to seek extensions through December 2009. Strickland has said he plans to request an extension. By mid-2013, however, states are expected to convert all licenses and state-issued ID cards - regardless of when they come up for renewal - to the new system.

    Supporters say the costs are justified by the seriousness of the problem they are designed to address. They note that the 9/11 Commission recommended new standards to make it harder to obtain ID documents fraudulently.

    Janice Kephart, a former counsel to the commission, testified at a recent Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that she has no doubt the Real ID system will make Americans safer. False identification documents enabled the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers to rent cars and homes and open bank accounts, she noted.

    "The pilot who flew into the Pentagon had four IDs from four different states, and the Pennsylvania pilot had three IDs," she said.
    James Carafano, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, contended that the new standards are a reasonable step to curb a "Wild West" atmosphere that has allowed criminals to easily create false identity documents.

    Critics, however, cited a host of concerns at the hearing - arguing that thieves and unscrupulous state workers could more easily gain access to identity documents through the new databases and that the risk of accidental dissemination of personal information on the Internet will be high.

    Bruce Schneier, a security expert, said he expects that even under the new system, criminals will find ways to forge licenses and bribe state workers to use false information. He warned that it's almost inevitable that some personal information will end up on search engines such as Google, potentially endangering domestic violence victims, judges and others who have safety reasons for limiting access to their addresses.

    "This is a grave security risk," he said.
    Schneier noted instances of accidental losses or disclosures of Americans' personal information. He cited the Transportation Security Administration's recent announcement that it lost a computer hard drive containing Social Security numbers and bank and payroll information for about 100,000 employees.

    Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Judiciary Committee and co-sponsor of a Senate bill that would repeal the Real ID law, said the government's record is not reassuring.

    "You see mistakes being made all the time," Leahy said.
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    States move warily on Real ID

    States move warily on Real ID
    Officials still crave funding and firm guidance on nationwide standards for driver’s licenses

    By Jennifer McAdams
    Published on May 21, 2007

    Having aired their concerns about cost and policy implications, many state officials now seem resigned to the Real ID Act, which requires states to issue driver’s licenses that conform to new federal standards. Many states are preparing for the new requirements and hiring systems integrators rather than waiting for the Homeland Security Department to release final technical standards.

    Nevada’s Department of Motor Vehicles, for example, is investigating facial recognition and various methods for sharing driver’s license information with other states and the federal government, even though it can only go so far without more detailed guidance from DHS, said Tom Jacobs, public information officer at Nevada’s DMV.

    “At this point, we have no vision of a complete solution because we still don’t know what Real ID completely is,â€
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    Employers beware of Real ID law

    Employers beware of Real ID law
    Posted on May 21, 2007 4:16 AM

    By Roger Pettit

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    With a new law that went into effect April 1, Wisconsin employers will have to pay close attention to driver's licenses and identification cards used by new employees to verify their right to work in the United States.

    Wisconsin had been one of 10 states not requiring applicants for driver's licenses to prove legal residency. Federal legislation called the Real ID law requires states to meet national identification standards no later than Dec. 31, 2009.

    Prior to the law change, applicants for a Wisconsin driver's license or a state identification card did not have to prove their legal presence in the United States. This led to many illegal immigrants securing a legal form of identification that would then be used as one of the forms provided to employers as proof of their work status.

    That is no longer the case with the law change. As a result, along with fake or stolen Social Security numbers, illegal immigrants will likely increase the use of fake or altered driver's licenses and identification cards when applying for jobs.

    Employers need to be sensitive to this matter as they can face discrimination lawsuits if they mistakenly assume an employee or job applicant is not a legal resident. At the same time, employers can face government fines for knowingly employing workers who are illegal immigrants.

    Ironically, now that it is harder for illegal immigrants to use legal documents to prove their right to work, the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is greatly increasing its enforcement efforts against employers that knowingly employ illegal aliens.

    The Department has been quoted as promising to target both large and small employers.

    Now more than ever, employers with immigrant work forces need to have systems in place to closely monitor Social Security numbers and now driver's licenses or identification cards to verify their legal status.

    The Wisconsin Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) can provide pointers on spotting false or altered driver's licenses or IDs. Anyone with questions on these matters should seek assistance from human resource consultants or employment lawyers in implementing those systems and/or to gain a better understanding of the regulations now in place.

    Additionally, employers should have a no-match policy in place to help protect the employer against discrimination claims when employment decisions must be made based upon continuous problems with employee's Social Security numbers.


    Roger Pettit is an attorney with Petrie & Stocking S.C., a Milwaukee law firm, and has more than 30 years experience practicing labor and employment law.

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    U.S. Real ID Act Poses Real Threats The Emergence of a Real

    U.S. Real ID Act Poses Real Threats
    The Emergence of a Real Big Brother


    by Jason Hahn

    Global Research, May 20, 2007
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    Americans saw their opportunity to speak out against or for the Real ID Act on Tuesday, when the deadline for public comment on the legislation ended. The act has been the object of controversy and major concern for many citizens who are raising personal privacy concerns. A handful of state governments are also voicing their dissent to the act, which would place huge financial burdens upon each participating state.

    The Real ID Act was tacked onto a 2005 bill titled "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005." The emergency bill was primarily meant to approve $82 billion for the war in Iraq and Asian tsunami financial aid, and was signed by President Bush on May 11, 2005. The Republican-driven House attached the Real ID Act to this bill, which landed on the president's desk without a Senate debate.

    The act was meant to prevent terrorism by creating stricter and uniform standards for states to follow concerning state-issued IDs. It calls for states to revamp their state-issued drivers licenses and non-drivers identification cards in order to implement uniform security features across all states.

    Right off the bat there is an obvious politically-charged nature to this debate. The current Congress is composed of a Democratic majority, which sets the stage for anger concerning how the bill was passed by the Republican-run Congress back in 2005.

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) has been the driving force behind recent opposition to the Real ID Act.

    During a hearing on Tuesday, May 8, Leahy said: "I think the days of Congress rubber-stamping any and every idea cooked up by the administration are over. You have the nation's governors, Republicans and Democrats, who say they want to have a voice in this. Should they be ignored, or is this a case where the federal government knows better than the states?"

    Leahy's disapproval of the act is backed up by seven states which have already passed unusual legislation opposing the Real ID Act. The list includes Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Colorado, Arkansas, and Maine. More than 30 states have called upon Congress to completely do away with the act or to fully fund it.

    This is where the states' concerns arise. If the Real ID Act were to proceed as planned, states would be responsible for a sum of up to $23.1 billion, which is significantly higher than the $11 billion price tag estimated by the National Conference of State Legislatures and other state groups last year. Homeland Security says that the total cost of $23.1 billion, which includes the cost to individuals, would be spread out over a 10-year period.

    Unfunded mandates are not unfamiliar to states. The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 was deemed as an unfunded mandate upon the states, many of which have made their displeasure of the act known, though none have actually dumped it. This is primarily because federal funds make up about 8 percent of public education funding, and would be rescinded from any state abandoning the act.

    The Real ID Act is easier for states to openly reject because there are no funds to lose. States stand to shoulder heavy financial and administrative loads, and will be obliged to bow down to federal orders.

    "State motor vehicle officials will be required to verify the legal status of applicants, adding to the responsibilities of already heavily burdened state offices," Leahy contended.

    States can choose to turn their backs on the act, but their citizens would not be able to board an airplane or enter federal buildings. This penalty would take effect on May 11, 2008.

    The primary concern for citizens is privacy related. Though Congress denies that this act would signal the dawn of national identity cards, many are not buying it.

    This stems from the security aspects that will be required for these state-issued driver's license cards. These Real ID cards will feature a two-dimensional, non-encrypted barcode that will contain personal information such as the citizen's home address. Since the cards will not be encrypted (due to "operational complexity"), everyday businesses like bars and banks would be able to scan and store a customer's home address, among other pieces of personal information.

    The potential for a privacy disaster is easily seen already, but the story does not end there. States would be required to scan all documentary evidence into a database shared with other states. Documentary evidence would include proofs of birthdates, legal status, and social security numbers.

    Having all of this sensitive information merged together would create a hodgepodge of information, not to mention a headache waiting to happen, according to Bruce Schneier, a security technologist.

    "The security risks of this database are enormous. It would be a kludge of existing databases that are incompatible, full of erroneous data and unreliable," he said.

    He added: "A reliance on ID cards is based on a dangerous security myth, the idea that if only we knew who everyone was, we could pick the bad guys out of the crowd."

    What's more, this merged database containing huge amounts of private information will be overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, which causes some to foresee a federal entity that would possess too much information and power.

    To add to the already heightened apprehension concerning these ID cards, radio frequency identification (RFID) tags are being considered as well.

    Despite the anti-illegal Mexican immigrants spin that some see as a prominent aspect of Real ID, the catalyst is a response to 9/11 and the 19 of 30 hijackers that showed state-issued identification. At least seven were obtained deceitfully.

    States are required to submit plans on how they will meet the requirements of the Real ID Act by Oct. 7, 2007. If any fail to do so, their citizens will not be allowed to board planes and enter federal buildings.

    States will also have until May of next year (or Dec. 31, 2009 if an extension is requested) to confirm that they are on track to comply with the act. They will then have until 2013 to reissue all drivers licenses, which will require each license holder to renew their licenses in person with a form of photo identification and relevant documents to verify date of birth, home address, and social security number.

    Final rules for Real ID are expected later this summer.

    The promise of tighter security for our nation as a whole is evident in these measures, though it does not seem likely that everyone will think the possibility worth all the risks involved. To some, it would appear that the U.S. is trying to solve one problem while creating the potential for several more. Regardless of the distinctions between a national ID and a state ID, there are undeniable and justifiable security concerns at play here.

    If people are concerned enough to shred their mail and old documents, how will they be able to deal with leaving a digital fingerprint every time they want to go out for a drink or make a withdrawal at the bank?

    If there are miscreants motivated enough to carry out identification theft now, will the temptation and the reward of such crimes be greater with Real IDs being used nationwide?

    There are concerns on all levels of our country. Politicians seem just as concerned about their party's say in the matter as the level of privacy of those they represent. States are clenching their pockets and crying foul. Citizens are afraid that their personal information, which is already so vulnerable, will be open game for those determined to take advantage of any possible weaknesses in the system.

    Many other countries use national IDs without much dissension, but there seems to be loud apprehension to the idea from Americans. Even their British counterparts are well on their way to a similar fate. The U.K. will begin issuing ID cards utilizing fingerprint and iris scan information for all non-European Union citizens re-applying to stay in the country after the first six months. Future political sway could determine whether or not these ID cards will be mandatory for all citizens in the U.K.

    These developments, along with the ubiquity of security cameras that are popping up in all sorts of places only fuel the fire of paranoia that many concerned Americans and Britons see.

    For Americans, there may not be much choice. The bill is already signed, and final parameters are on the cusp of completion, which means that those who fear the emergence of a real Big Brother or the fulfillment of Revelations might have a little bit more ground to found their trepidations upon.


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    States: Just say 'no' to national identity cards

    May 21, 2007

    Posturing itself for the 2006 elections, the 2005 Republican-led Congress decided to turn your driver's license into a national ID card with little debate. Now the states are revolting over the cost and privacy implications.

    The Real ID Act passed in 2005 requires states to replace all existing drivers' licenses by 2013 with licenses with standardized "machine readable" biographical data. Applicants must prove citizenship as well as validation of address, date of birth and social security number.

    Without a hearing in the Senate, Congress attached it to an emergency military spending bill, thus ending ongoing negotiations between the states and the U.S. Department of Transportation over driver's license security standards.

    The transition starts in 2008 for 245 million licensed drivers with an estimated cost of about $14.6 billion to states and $7.8 billion to individuals. So far the Department of Homeland Security has offered up only $100 million in grants, and that's from existing anti-terrorism funds already allocated to states.

    The Oregon Legislature is reconciling calls for repeal with the need to prepare for implementation. According to the Driver and Motor Vehicle Services Division, nearly 3 million licensed drivers will have to obtain the new licenses, whether their existing one expires or not, within a four-year period. The estimated cost is $65 million.

    Several states have passed legislation either refusing to comply or calling for repeal. Conservative talk shows consumed with making immigration their raison d'ete instinctively react as if attacks on the law are part of the liberal agenda. But Montana, Idaho, North Dakota and Utah aren't exactly left-wing bastions.

    So what does this mean for you? You will need to go to DMV to get a new one before 2013. No mail-ins. You will have to bring proof of citizenship. Unless you have a passport, dig up that birth certificate.

    Be prepared for some higher fees and longer lines at the DMV offices. And some unsettling issues over validity of documents and what to do about those who don't have a car or haven't passed the driving test.

    Many proponents of the Real ID Act go out of their way to assure us it isn't a national ID card -- presumably because it would be bad politically if it were. Well, in reality it is.

    To get federal funding for the mandate, states must link up their databases. The driver's licenses will have the same data and they will be electronically readable. Homeland Security can add any requirements it wants. Showing and scanning of the card will be required to get on airplanes or for financial services and banking. Because it can be scanned, merchants can demand to see the ID card and gather data.

    The effect is a national ID card. If you are an American but don't have one, you are erased as a citizen and without access to critical services. If you have one, government and merchants can track your activities.

    Is concern over privacy warranted? Homeland Security rules don't require encryption of the biographic data on the license. There's nothing keeping merchants from automatically collecting biographical data from the licenses.

    Oregon might have sufficient protections for data such as Social Security numbers, but this data must be shared with other states and that sharing might not have the same level of protection. States are justifiably fearful that the effort to ostensibly enhance national security will end up as an invitation to identify theft.

    Part of the anxiety over privacy is the uncertainty over the rules Homeland Security has yet to adopt. But one thing is for certain. The only way to get Congress to revisit its hasty decision is for the states, and the public, to continue saying "no thanks."

    Ron Eachus of Salem is a former legislator and a former chairman of the Oregon Public Utility Commission. His column appears every other Monday. Send e-mail to re4869@comcast.net.

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    Line-of-duty death benefit rides Real ID ban

    Line-of-duty death benefit rides Real ID ban
    By TOM FAHEY
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    CONCORD – The Senate yesterday made a determined push to pass a death benefit for police and firefighters by tagging it onto an unrelated bill the House desperately wants.

    By a unanimous vote, the Senate voted to amend a ban on New Hampshire's participation in the national Real ID program by adding the line-of-duty death benefit.

    A House subcommittee on Wednesday voted to recommend retaining the death benefit bill for a year. It has passed the Real ID bill on two occasions, this year by a 268-8 vote.

    Sen. Lou D'Allesandro, D-Manchester, and Sen. Robert Letourneau, R-Derry, urged the full Senate to make the move. The amendment will force the House to negotiate on the issue if it follows the Finance subcommittee's recommendation.

    The state has seen two police officers killed in the line of duty in the past nine months: Manchester Police Officer Michael Briggs in October and Franconia Police Officer Bruce McKay this month.

    Letourneau said, "I find it pretty hard to accept the fact that in light of recent activities in the North Country, the House has decided to retain this bill. I'm in full support of this amendment. We need to get this done."

    The national Real ID bill, passed in the wake of 9/11 terror attacks, directs states to adopt uniform procedures and document requirements for driver's licenses. The state bill, HB 685, would limit the data the state's Department of Safety could share with other states and the federal government on motor vehicle registrations and driver's licenses.

    Sen. Peter Burling, D-Cornish, said no one testified against the Real ID measure at a public hearing, and those who favor keeping the state out of the program addressed a wide variety of reasons, from technology to privacy policies.

    "It is clear that the Real ID idea the federal government has put forward was not completely thought out," he said.

    Gov. John Lynch said the Senate was right to reject Real ID.

    "I continue to have many concerns about Real ID, including the cost, the impact on the privacy of our citizens and the burden it will place on state government employees," Lynch said in a statement.

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    The EEVS of our destruction

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    The EEVS of our destruction

    Nancy Levant Nancy Levant
    May 29, 2007


    Let's begin with a couple of recent little details about which you've been told nothing:

    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a proposal on March 1 to establish minimum standards for state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards in compliance with the REAL ID Act of 2005.

    DHS-proposed regulations set standards for states to meet the requirements of the REAL ID Act, including security features that must be incorporated into each card, verification of information provided by applicants to establish their identity and lawful status in the United States, and physical security standards for all locations where licenses and identification cards are issued.

    As proposed, a REAL ID driver's license will be required to access a federal building; board federally regulated commercial aircraft, and enter nuclear power plants. Because states may have difficulty complying before the May 11, 2008, deadline, DHS will grant an extension of the compliance deadline until December 31, 2009.

    It is anticipated that on January 1, 2008, U.S. citizens traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda — by land or sea and including ferries — may be required to present a valid U.S. passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes may permit a later deadline, both the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to have all requirements in place by the original deadline. Advance notice will be provided to enable we the people to meet the new land and sea border requirement(s).

    Now, to the nuts and bolts of truth: Introduced by Representatives Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz), met The STRIVE Act — Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy Act of 2007. This Act, full of dialectic/deceiving crap, also introduces the EEVES proposal, which is the Employment Eligibility Verification System and the real deal of this Act.

    The EEVS proposal would require ALL PEOPLE — both citizens and non-citizens — to obtain and present newly proposed documents such as a Social Security Card and driver's license compliant with the Real ID Act in order to work or continue working. The EEVS data basing human compliance grader would mean that EVERYONE would have to obtain PERMISSION from the government to obtain a job and every time a new job is sought.

    The Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) would require every employer in the United States to verify the employment eligibility of their workers through the EEVS data base.

    The Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) would require every person in America to carry a new and improved biometric Social Security card containing information about the cardholder such as fingerprints, retina scan and DNA — essentially another national ID — AND present a Real ID-compliant driver's license to qualify for any job or income.

    EEVS also creates ANOTHER vast federal database to verify the work eligibility of ALL American citizen job applicants. The system would contain extraordinary personal information on everyone who seeks or holds a job, and all of it keyed to a new biometric Social Security number. When this bill passes (and it will), every time we apply for a job, the Department of Homeland Security will determine our eligibility to work in OUR nation. In the essence of FACT, NO ONE will be able to work in the u.S. without DHS approval. And, guess what...this bill forecloses judicial review of governmental mistakes. Therefore, if they falsely determine that you are disallowed to earn money, tough beans! Starve and weep! CONgress and their federal mandates are working double-time to drive the nails into our highly selective slavery.

    About 16,000 employers nationwide are currently and voluntarily participating in the EEVS Basic Pilot Program (gosh, I wonder which politically funding corporations those 16,000 might be...), but this federal mandate requires expansion to mandatory use by every American employer, which will affect at least 160 million American and non-American workers — and all in the name of "security."

    Well Americans, be secure in knowing that you are all but one grade away from destitution, national shunning, and targeted enemy designations of this state of treasonous affairs. And once designated as such, I refer you to history, to Halliburton civilian labor camps, and to ethnic cleansing. Now you know why they have been steadfastly preparing for "civilian management." We are one to two years away from our Real ID designations — 12 to 24 months — and only God knows what other "legislation" will result from America's new paramilitary dictatorship. Now, tell me again why you vote Democrat or Republican? And tell me again why CONgress is still illegally operational?

    It's time to group together to support one another. The Amish people aren't so odd after all. We either prepare ourselves to live as slaves within this un-American paramilitary grid, or we must gather talents, skills, and the determination to refuse it and to live according to OUR efforts, OUR beliefs, and OUR choices. The line is drawn — albeit that we did NOT draw this treasonous line — minus the fact that we sat back and allowed it to become OUR leadership. It's time to re-plan OUR futures — together.


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    She is an opponent of deceptive governance and politicians, global governance by deception, political feminism, the public school system, political economics based upon manufactured wars and their corporate benefactors, and the Federal Reserve System. She is also a nationwide and lively radio personality.

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    It is a shame that so many people are bind or too stupid to even pay attention to the Real ID. It is the modern day version of what Hitler used to first round up criminals, then the mentally ill, next to the old and sick and finally to a race that he despised and those that politically opposed him.

    We already have Criminals tagged, some with chips, some with monitors.

    The elderly are getting chipped as well as the homeless mentally challenged.

    Plans are in place for military personnel as well.

    Babies are getting [url=http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01290.html]chipped this will protect them according to Verichip.

    Who wants to be next?

    Take your Real ID, but it won’t be long before this national Id is compromised and the chip will be the only full proof way to prevent tampering.

    Go ahead, take the mark, its for your protection.
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    http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/ ... 4&nid=7664

    REAL ID Trojan Horse Vote Possible
    Monday, May 28, 2007


    Please share with concerned friends . . .

    Subject: REAL ID Trojan Horse vote possible today

    Yesterday we told you that the immigration bill being considered in the Senate contains provisions that could entangle all U.S. employers and employees in a bureaucratic nightmare similar to what has happened with the terrorist watch list.

    This bill contains no direct mention of the REAL ID Act, or the de facto national identity card the REAL ID Act would create, but it seems fairly clear to us that REAL ID is woven into this bill, even though it is far from clear that the REAL ID Act can even be implemented.

    Under this legislation you are going to have to get a green-light from the federal government if you want to hire someone, or if someone wants to hire you.

    But what if mistakes are made by this federal system, and you can't hire someone, or be hired, until the feds correct their errors? What if they NEVER correct their mistakes?

    You will become a non-person.

    The bill in question is about 1,000 pages long. It is also extremely complicated. I have copied one small section relating to electronic verification of identity below my signature to give you a taste of it. But despite its length and complexity this bill is being rushed to a vote, perhaps as soon as today.

    John Fund, in a Wall Street Journal editorial on Monday makes the following observation: http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110010103

    "Senators did not even receive the bill draft until midnight Saturday. After a test vote scheduled for today, Majority Leader Harry Reid is planning a final vote on the bill this Thursday, only one week after the compromise was struck. Shouldn't senators have time to actually read the bill they're being asked to vote on?"

    Notice that Fund is yet another person who has picked up on the "read the bills" concept that we have been pushing with our "Read the Bills Act."

    It is very unlikely that the Senate is going to read this bill before they vote on it. And even if they did read it the bill is so complex it is almost impossible to understand.

    Please send Congress a message right now asking them to strip all REAL ID related provisions from this, or any other immigration bill. If you can please follow up with a phone call, and deliver the same message. The phone numbers you need to contact your Senators will be on the screen when you send your message.

    You can send your message about the immigration bill here. http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=73

    Please also consider sending a message asking Congress to introduce and pass DownsizeDC.org's "Read the Bills Act" (RTBA). You can mention the complicated 1,000 page immigration bill as yet another reason why the "Read the Bills Act" needs to be passed as soon as possible.

    If you don't know about RTBA you can learn about it here. http://www.downsizedc.org/read_the_laws.shtml

    If you already know about RTBA you can send your message about it here.

    http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=27

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