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05-26-2005, 09:55 AM #1
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Violence Erupts at Protest against Minutemen Event!!
This is the official news story of the attack on the Minutemen supporters. However, if you read the story (notice bylines of the writers), they have written it to sound like the the drivers purposefuly attacked the crowd with their cars, when it was exactly the other way around.
If we were worried about this in the "future", the future is now...
Violence Erupts at O.C. Protest
Crowd gets rough and police swarm in after a Minuteman event in Garden Grove.
By Monte Morin and David Reyes, Times Staff Writers
Three people were injured and at least eight arrested Wednesday in Garden Grove after a motorist drove into a crowd of 300 demonstrators protesting a speech by the founder of the Minuteman Project, authorities said.
The Minuteman Project is a citizens group that patrols the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort to stop illegal immigration.
The demonstrators had gathered at the Women's Civic Club of Garden Grove on Chapman Avenue about 7:30 p.m. to protest an appearance by James Gilchrist, charging that he and his group were racist.
Gilchrist has denied those claims and insists the group is stopping only illegal immigration. His talk was sponsored by Citizens for Action Now, an anti-illegal immigration group.
The motorist had attended Gilchrist's speech and was leaving when protesters began hitting his van with placards and other objects, said Garden Grove Police Lt. David Kivler. The driver, who was not identified but spoke to a KCAL-TV Channel 9 reporter, said he gunned his car engine to get away from the crowd. The man was arrested.
Authorities said the incident occurred when 100 listeners attempted to leave through the crowd of demonstrators. Kivler said protesters gathered around one of their cars.
"They surrounded it and started beating on it," Kivler said. Then, a second car tried to get through the crowd as well.
"As he was doing so he hit at least three people," Kivler said. All three were transported to a local hospital. None had major injuries, he said.
Kivler said the crowd grew increasingly boisterous after the injuries.
He said protesters began throwing filled soda cans at the assembled Garden Grove, Anaheim and CHP officers. At least eight people were arrested on suspicion of felony assault, while others were booked for disturbing the peace.
A witness, Eric Garcia, 22, of Anaheim said the evening turned ugly about 9 p.m. after the talk.
He said some protesters were in a driveway when someone in a car tried to leave and made contact with the group. "Then all hell broke loose," Garcia said. "People started throwing things, like rocks and bricks and stuff."
Within minutes, he said, there were about 30 police cars, and dozens of officers on horseback or wearing SWAT gear.
Protester Jose Gonzales, 27, a graduate student at UCLA, said he noticed dozens of additional police officers, some of them on horseback, arriving on the scene. He said they began making arrests and dispersing the crowd, which had been marching in front of the building where Gilchrist was speaking.
"When the meeting let out … police dragged people, men and women," Gonzales said. "There were men and women and children running away…. I ran. I lost my shoe."
By 10 p.m. police ordered the crowd to disperse, saying they were part of an unlawful assembly. If they refused, police said, they would be arrested. Within half an hour, the streets were nearly empty of protesters.HE!D! A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by men better than himself. ~J.S. Mills
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05-26-2005, 10:09 AM #2
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GREAT POST HEIDI. It is obvious that the MMP supporters were attempting to leave, got attacked in their cars, and an accident happened.
These protesters caused the accident. It is only a matter of time when the supporters are going to turn on the protestors and all hell will break loose.FAR BEYOND DRIVEN
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05-26-2005, 10:31 AM #3
PICKETING: Police and protesters face off outside the California Commission for Immigration Reform meeting in Garden Grove.
Mark Avery, The Orange County Register
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/05/2 ... 534946.php
Thursday, May 26, 2005
Event turns hostile
Anti-illegal immigration activists, protesters clash and a man is arrested after two people are hit by a van.
By MARTIN WISCKOL
The Orange County Register
GARDEN GROVE – An event honoring an anti-illegal immigrant leader Wednesday night was marred by altercations between anti-immigration activists and protesters, resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.
The driver was Hal Netkin of Van Nuys, said Barbara Coe, chairwoman of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.
Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said.
Netkin was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. At least one of the protesters was hospitalized.
"Knowing (Netkin), he panicked," Coe said.
Billy Hall, a member of Coe's group, said shortly afterward that his car window was broken by a protester. Hall said he filed a police report.
The event sponsored by Coe's group honored Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist. Gilchrist's Minuteman Project last month attracted nearly 900 people to patrol a stretch of Arizona border in an effort to stop entry by illegal immigrants. The effort was praised by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger but condemned by President George W. Bush, who called the volunteers "vigilantes."
"I'm damned proud to be a vigilante," Gilchrist told the 150 people assembled at the Garden Grove Women's Club. "How about you?"
He received a rousing ovation. He also said that deporting the millions of people in the country illegally would lower home prices, reduce traffic congestion and lower taxes.
Nearly 100 protesters picketed and chanted on the sidewalk. One sign read, "Beat Back the Racist Attack."
"Their racist acts are being masked by patriotism," said Obed Sanchez of Garden Grove. "To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."Equal rights for all, special privileges for none. Thomas Jefferson
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05-26-2005, 10:34 AM #4
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Originally Posted by Sixx
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05-26-2005, 10:38 AM #5
It's very disturbing how the LA Times made this look like it was the MM people fault. It looks like they were just trying to leave and were ambushed.
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05-26-2005, 11:00 AM #6
Every congressman/senator should get a fax copy of this article. Fax them a copy and Call Them toll free at (877) 762-8762 - demand they stop the invasion of America.
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05-26-2005, 11:30 AM #7
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Also, the police themselves were attacked by the protestors!
He said protesters began throwing filled soda cans at the assembled Garden Grove, Anaheim and CHP officers. At least eight people were arrested on suspicion of felony assault, while others were booked for disturbing the peace.HE!D! A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by men better than himself. ~J.S. Mills
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05-26-2005, 11:38 AM #8
Care to comment, President Bush?
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05-26-2005, 11:53 AM #9
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Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
"Their racist acts are being masked by patriotism," said Obed Sanchez of Garden Grove. "To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."HE!D! A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by men better than himself. ~J.S. Mills
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05-26-2005, 11:55 AM #10
Garden Grove Protest
Of course they are going to make it the MM's fault. [b]These pro-illegal immigration people, are lawless, riot privoking imbeciles who are encouraging the use of violence in order to seek the world's attention and to be seen as victims of prejudism and mistreatment because of their culture and race. It couldn't get more simple-minded.
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