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PUTIN IS DOING WHAT WAS PLANNED BETWEEN RUSSIA, CHINA AND OBAMA. OBAMA'S WHINING IS NOTHING BUT HIS ATTEMPT TO LOOK LIKE HE IS DOING SOMETHING. OBAMA'S REAL OBJECTIVE IS TO TAKE DOWN AMERICA AND ALLOW POWER TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST RUSSIA AND CHINA.

President Obama warned Russia on Monday of possible U.S. sanctions over its military land grab in Ukraine, but Moscow brushed aside international threats, tightening its stranglehold on Crimea and calling audaciously for a national unity government in Kiev.

In Washington, Mr. Obama said the world is “largely united” against Russia’s military action and he is considering economic and diplomatic steps that would gradually isolate Russia. He criticized the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin for being “on the wrong side of history.”

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Russia ignores U.S. threats of isolation

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By Dave Boyer and Ashish Kumar Sen
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The Washington Times
Monday, March 3, 2014

Photo by: Pablo Martinez Monsivais
President Barack Obama gestures as he answers a question regarding the ongoing situation in theUkraine, during his meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Monday, March 3, 2014, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

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President Obama warned Russia on Monday of possible U.S. sanctions over its military land grab in Ukraine, but Moscow brushed aside international threats, tightening its stranglehold on Crimea and calling audaciously for a national unity government in Kiev.In Washington, Mr. Obama said the world is “largely united” against Russia’s military action and he is considering economic and diplomatic steps that would gradually isolate Russia. He criticized the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin for being “on the wrong side of history.”

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“What cannot be done is for Russia with impunity to put its soldiers on the ground and violate basic principles that are recognized around the world,” Mr. Obama said. “Over time, this will be a costly proposition for Russia.”But the U.S. and European Union floundered for solutions — while global markets panicked over the prospect of violent upheaval in the heart of Europe. Fears grew that the Kremlin might carry out more land grabs in pro-Russian eastern Ukraine, or elsewhere in the former Soviet Union, adding urgency to Western efforts to defuse the crisis.Secretary of State John F. Kerry was heading to Kiev in an expression of support for Ukraine’s sovereignty, and the EU threatened a raft of punitive measures as it called an emergency summit on Ukraine for Thursday. In Congress, lawmakers prepared to move on an aid package for Ukraine.

But it was Russia that appeared to be driving the agenda.Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in Geneva at the beginning of a U.N. Human Rights Council session that Ukraine should return to the Feb. 21 agreement signed by pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych — but not by Moscow — aimed at ending Ukraine’s governing crisis.Mr. Yanukovych fled the country after sealing a pact with the domestic opposition — and with the foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland — that called for early elections and the weakening of presidential powers.

“Instead of a promised national unity government,” Mr. Lavrov said, “a ‘government of the victors’ has been created.” He justified the Russian intervention in the Crimean peninsula as necessary for the protection of Russian citizens and ethnic Russians within Ukraine’s borders.The U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power, said Mr. Lavrov’s assertions were “without basis in reality.”“What is happening today is a dangerous military intervention in Ukraine,” Ms. Power said. “It is an act of aggression. It must stop.”

The Pentagon said late Monday that it will suspend military exercises and other activities with Russia. Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby said the U.S. military has “put on hold” all military-to-military engagements, including bilateral meetings, port visits and planning conferences.Meanwhile, Ukraine claimed that Russian troops had issued an ultimatum for two Ukrainian warships to surrender or be seized — prompting Ukraine’s acting president to accuse Russia of piracy.Four Russian navy ships in Sevastopol’s harbor were blocking Ukraine’s corvette Ternopil and the command ship Slavutych, Ukrainian authorities said. Acting President Oleksandr Turchynov said commanders and crew were “ready to defend their ships. … They are defending Ukraine.”

Vladimir Anikin, a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman in Moscow, dismissed the report of a Russian ultimatum as nonsense but refused to elaborate.It was not clear what the West could do to make Russia back down.

The clearest weapon at the disposal of the EU and U.S. appeared to be economic sanctions that would freeze Russian assets and pull the plug on multibillion-dollar deals with the Kremlin. Late Monday, the EU threatened to freeze visa liberalization and economic cooperation talks and boycott the Group of Eight summit in Russia if Moscow does not back down on the Crimean peninsula by Thursday’s summit.Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk appealed for outside help and said Crimea remained part of his country. “Any attempt of Russia to grab Crimea will have no success at all.

Give us some time,” he said at a news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague.European foreign ministers held an emergency meeting on a joint response to Russia’s military push.Mr. Hague, like other Western diplomats, ruled out military action. “The U.K. is not discussing military options,” he said. “Our concentration is on diplomatic and economic pressure.”

After a 90-minute phone call between Mr. Obama and Mr. Putin over the weekend yielded no apparent results, the president said he understood the historic ties between Russia and Ukraine. But Mr. Obama said Ukrainians must determine their own future.“The strong condemnation … from countries around the world indicates the degree to which Russia is on the wrong side of history,”

Mr. Obama said.The president said Russia has a choice of two paths. “Obviously, the facts on the ground in Crimea are deeply troubling, and Russia has a large army that borders Ukraine,” Mr. Obama said. “Now is the time for them to consider whether they can serve their interests in a way that resorts to diplomacy as opposed to force.”

The administration, along with the other members of the G-8 besides Russia, has halted preparations for the group’s annual June summit, this year scheduled for Sochi, Russia.Mr. Obama said he is looking at a range of other steps that “will have a negative impact on Russia’s economy and status in the world.”Lawmakers in both parties expressed interest in an aid package for Ukraine.Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr., Pennsylvania Democrat, suggested loan guarantees and other economic assistance. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Virginia Republican, said he has directed House committee chairmen to develop a package of loan guarantees rapidly to show that “the United States will not stand idly by in the face of such aggression.”Mr. Obama said such aid should be “the first order of business” when Congress resumes work Tuesday. “At this stage, there should be unanimity among Democrats and Republicans that when it comes to preserving the principle that no country has the right to send in troops to another country unprovoked,” the president said. “We should be able to come up with a unified position that stands outside of partisan politics.”

The threat of sanctions may not be enough to change Mr. Putin’s mind, analysts said.

Economic and diplomatic measures “are about all we can do right now,” said Steven Bucci, director of the Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign and National Security Policy at the Heritage Foundation.“Is it good enough? I’m not terribly optimistic,” he said.

A powerful member of the Senate Armed Services Committee said Mr. Obama’s mismanagement of the defense budget is the reason that the U.S. has limited options for assisting Ukraine.

Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, said he had predicted that the U.S. would surrender its global influence “and leave a vacuum that will be filled by Russia.”“I warned this day was coming, and it is here,” Mr. Inhofe said in a statement. “President Obama’s attempt to seek peace through apologetic diplomacy while defunding and dismantling our military has failed.

Today, our enemies don’t fear us and our allies no longer respect us.”Mr. Obama’s decision to cancel procurement plans for Lockheed Martin’s F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jet and Boeing’s C-17 Globemaster military transport aircraft are prime examples of defense budget mismanagement, Mr. Inhofe said.

By Monday, it was clear that Russia had effectively turned Crimea into a protectorate.Russian soldiers controlled all Crimean border posts as well as all military facilities in the territory. Troops also controlled a ferry terminal in the Ukrainian city of Kerch, just 12 miles across the water from Russia. That intensified fears in Kiev that Moscow will use that route to send even more troops into the peninsula.

Border guard spokesman Sergei Astakhov said the Russians were demanding that Ukrainian soldiers and guards transfer their allegiance to Crimea’s new pro-Russian local government.“The Russians are behaving very aggressively,” he said. “They came in by breaking down doors, knocking out windows, cutting off every communication.”

He said four Russian military ships, 13 helicopters and eight transport planes had arrived in Crimea in violation of agreements that permit Russia to keep its Black Sea fleet at the naval base in Sevastopol but limits the deployment of additional forces at the base.

Mr. Yatsenyuk, the Ukrainian prime minister, acknowledged that his country had “no military options on the table” to reverse Russia’s military move into Crimea because the Russians surrounded Ukrainian military facilities on the peninsula, completing a takeover without firing a shot.• Maggie Ybarra contributed to this article, which is based in part on wire service reports.

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A Sheep No More

OK …I'm putting this out there, and I know it will be rejected by many. Here's the deal. All these leaders from all these countries are a part of the NWO plan. They may fight among each other for different interests, but in the end, they want to get rid of the old world and welcome in their one world tyrannical governance (NWO). Yes, that includes Russia, China, US etc etc. Are there smaller nations that are not? I don't know probably yes, but they risk being invaded and regime change unless they aren't that important. We are all being played right now. They rule through divide and conquer doing it to divide you and me and also to make it look like they are divided. Their second weapon is war. War depopulates and feeds their pockets. Please comment whether you agree or disagree, however, please, let's all be kind with our words if we are in disagreement. Thank you.

Palin to Hannity: Putin Wrestles Bears, Obama Wears Moms Jeans

Posted on March 3, 2014 by BMartin1776



This is the definition of an “I told you so” and what a victory lap looks & sounds like in politics! Palin was dead on about Russia while the entire crap media attacked her for saying Putin would go into the Ukraine under Bronco ‘bam a! The boy kings foreign policies are putting the US as well as our allies around the world in danger. He does not understand peace through strength philosophy that has kept our enemies at bay for decades. Now under obama who thinks he can negotiate with cold-blooded killers though his community organizing “skills” all bets are off the table.

The “reset” proposed by Hillary “the Butcher of Benghazi” Clinton was political rhetoric to mask obamas in ability to lead globally destroying all the hard work and suffering so many went through.

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Kerry And Obama Push For Sanctions And War On Russia: “All Options On The Table”

BY ADMIN · MARCH 3, 2014

John Kerry went on several talking heads shows Sunday morning to beat the drums for war. Asked by ABC’s Stephanopoulos about fake Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy “Yats” Yatsenyuk’s statements that Russia’s vote to send troops into Ukraine is “not a threat–this is actually the declaration of war,” and that Ukraine is “on the brink of disaster,” Kerry responded “we hope not,” then ranted:

“What has already happened is a brazen act of aggression, in violation of international law and violation fo the UN Charter and violation of the Helsinki final act… It really puts at question Russia’s capacity to be within the G-8.” In other words, we pulled off a coup fair and square, and we’ll kill you if you undermine our new Nazi regime.

He showed his intention clearly: “The hope of the U.S. and everybody in the world is not to see this escalate into a military confrontation,” but “the President has all options on the table” — a key and code term that will be missed by nobody.

Kerry said the Administration is calling on the Congress to impose economic sanctions immediately: “Russia has major investment and trade needs and desires,” he said. “I think there’s a unified view by all of the foreign ministers I talked with yesterday, all of the G-8 and more, that they’re simply going to isolate Russia…. There could even be, ultimately, asset freezes, visa bans. There could be certainly disruption of any of the normal trade routine. There could be business drawback on investment in the country. The ruble is already going down and feeling the impact of this. “



The release from the White House on Obama’s hour-and-a-half call to Putin Saturday, left out Putin’s admonitions about NATO’s support for neo-nazi terrorists, instead threatening war: “President Obama expressed his deep concern over Russia’s clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of international law….” The release claims that “we recognize Russia’s deep historic and cultural ties to Ukraine and the need to protect the rights of ethnic Russian and minority populations within Ukraine,” but then says that “the Ukrainian government has made clear its commitment to protect the rights of all Ukrainians and to abide by Ukraine’s international commitments.” Trust the nazis. It also says Russia should call on the UN and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) to “look after Russia’s interests in Ukraine.”

Meanwhile, Obama is preparing to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House on furthering the war effort in Syria and Iran.

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Marco Rubio offers eight steps that the Obama administration must take to get back to a realistic position of power in the real world, vis-a-vis Putin:

Sixth, we should renew a push for eventual membership in . . .

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Truth is Rubio is just farting gas out his mouth and not a swinging di** in either party leadership has a clue in hell of what to do, when to do it, or how it could ever possibly get done.

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A Sheep No More

OK …I'm putting this out there, and I know it will be rejected by many. Here's the deal. All these leaders from all these countries are a part of the NWO plan. They may fight among each other for different interests, but in the end, they want to get rid of the old world and welcome in their one world tyrannical governance (NWO). Yes, that includes Russia, China, US etc etc. Are there smaller nations that are not? I don't know probably yes, but they risk being invaded and regime change unless they aren't that important. We are all being played right now. They rule through divide and conquer doing it to divide you and me and also to make it look like they are divided. Their second weapon is war. War depopulates and feeds their pockets. Please comment whether you agree or disagree, however, please, let's all be kind with our words if we are in disagreement. Thank you.

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Wouldn't you have liked to be a bugger in Putin's nose when China had their summit with him in Moscow last year?

Hint: Ukraine was on the check off list.

Putin to Chinese President Xi Jinping: Are you in?

Chinese President Xi Jinping: Yes, but wait until we get Obama right where we want him. You know, threatening to cash in the US debt, and building up those Reserve units we talked about.

Putin to Chinese President Xi Jinping: How about right after the Olympics?

Chinese President Xi Jinping: Perfect



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Honestly though, both China and Russia have all the Aces and Obama has all the Deuces, and it is THEIR DRAW.

China and Russia are fully prepared to withstand any 'economic sanctions' by the G-8 and know the West is war-weary after (how many?) years of fighting the Muslims in the Middle East (and still doing it).

Sucks to be a John Kerry or Barack Obama about right now.

I don't see war in the cards just yet. In this decade, the chances are good for a global war. But the Sino/Russian beast still wants a little more time before they get serious about it. Look for both China and Russia to really start pressing hard for expanded military zones in the China Sea and around the contested Japanese islands as well.