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    I watched the New Hampshire debates last night. Not one of the Democrats called for all illegal aliens to be deported from this country. And, not one of the Republicans boldly stood up and demanded that ALL illegal aliens had to be removed from our country. Guiliani said it was physically impossible to remove all the illegal aliens and the rest of the Republicans seemed to agree with that. They were discussing ways to give the illegals amnesty without having to call it amnesty. So, at the national level, neither party intends to seal the borders and remove the illegal aliens already here. I am a member of the Patriots Union of America. They have a proposal that seems very sensible and workable to me. It is called the Safe America Act (SAA). I hope all of you will look up the Safe America Act, study it, and throw your support behind it.[/b]

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    Heres a chart that shows all candidates on the issues of immigration. Fred Thompson is almost as good as Hunter and Tancredo. He would be excellent!
    http://www.betterimmigration.com/candid ... _gop1.html
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    I got this email this morning and wanted to post it here for all who might be looking for URL's to back up our positions.

    'Snopes' is provided for doubters:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... merica.asp

    Now.................

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, e and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht < FONT color=navy>

    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/ ... tation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '.
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !

    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck,< /B> then forward it.

    Remember folks I'm just passing it on!
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    Re: This is why they need to go!

    How do you propose to secure the borders ? USA has everything but "manpower". Whether it is securing the borders, building fences, soldiers in the armed forces, scientific research so on and so forth...everywhere there is a dependency on foreign labor somewhere. When the legal process to immigrate is completely broken, how do you expect to deal with the illegal immigrants ? The legal immigration process needs major overhaul as they have not changed with the times as the first step. How about talking about that for a change ? How many Americans are aware of the legal process ?

    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic

    Well another march has reminded the American people how much we need to secure our boarders and completely stop illegal immigration into our country. Not only are these illegals skipping out on paying medical bills; leaving states to pick up the tab and increasing insurance rates; they now are stealing scholarships and grants for American citizens who are in need when going to college. Not to mention we are paying for their education through property taxes in our public schools to boot.
    The public school system is nothing to brag about but this hurts it even more when special classes are needed and given to foreigners who can't speak English. Who don't even belong here.
    Crime another problem not invited but invaded into our country by drug smugglers;rapists; murderers who run across the boarder to escape justice. Never mind of the human toll of those murdered which never should have happened. When caught they appeal to be deported and when they just don't escape we pay for their jailing. It seems half the prisons are filled with illegal trash. Guess who pays that the illegals or their native country....no us tax paying law abiding fools do.
    Now I will say this only and only in one area may we need illegal immigrants. It is solely for farm work. Picking crops that's it. For the rest of the jobs we have many Americans who need them. Not everyone can or will go to college. Not everyone has the aptitude for higher learning but you know what our country should take care of its own. We don't need uneducated unskilled laborers anymore that went out when technology came about. We have American citizens who need work and make a living off of it. I know many friends of mine did it. We have youth here who need jobs and elderly to make ends meet. We had so many jobs that have gone over seas that we have our own skilled labor force scrapping for jobs any job for their families won't starve.
    I say only farm work and even that was what poor folks did 70 years ago,they depended on it. But now its filled with illegal immigrants. Perhaps we may need them now; they took it over; so if they must they can have a guest worker program. But its limited. They go back home to their native country and apply and after a certain time they must return and reapply.
    No path to citizenship here; you broke our laws and have the gull to demand citizen rights. When we have immigrants from all over the world applying for citizenship waiting 10 years for a reply of yes or no. Most of them have something to contribute; highly educated and they legally applied like everyone before them did. No special treatment. You want citizenship get back at the end of this line and apply and if your lucky maybe; but don't expect much if your unskilled. There is not a large market for it anymore its not the early 1900's or 1800's hundreds no longer.
    In the meantime for God's sake let our government listen to its people; the American citizens;
    we don't want amnesty for law breakers, we don't want our money spent on housing; feeding and education of illegal immigrants who are taking our social services meant for our countrymen. Build a fence but place more boarder patrol on it, secure it and let it be known that from now on if you enter this country illegally you can never apply for citizenship. As for anchor babies well like everything else times have changed and people taking advantage is a sure sign that laws need to keep up with the times. A new law should be written that if a child is born within the boarders of our country they cannot be US citizens unless their parents are. Lets stop this large exploited loophole. I have no sympathy for people who fly foreign flags refuse to become part of our culture and then demand they want special treatment. This country should learn 1 thing; color; ethnic; racial blindness. Nobody gets a free ride no more, we are all treated the same. No more box checking; who cares. If your qualified you get it, it's simply if you don't well try harder. In the meantime deportation should continue and all illegal immigrants should be kicked out of this country. Those with anchor kids should pack up their kids and go home and raise them in their own country. These children at adult age can then apply for US citizenship. But their ill guided parents never. But when this loophole is closed all illegals must be deported end of story.
    It is a global economy now and this country must compete. Well look around car manufacturers are laying off. Large corporations are laying off. Why because we cannot compete with low wages. We don't need foreigners making our pay scale lower in our own country. Never mind the third world health threats that they are bringing. Diseases long rid of are making appearances every health expert knows why.
    One last thing not all Spanish are Mexicans or racial or racially mixed many are ethnic; most are in the melting pot; came here legally and don't need to be trashed by this latest groups behavior,who do not represent what most of Spanish descent believe. Most don't want that Hispanic check box; its ridiculous when your blue eyed and light haired. Most have American looking families in 1 generation or not. Yea the first may have that ethnic look but its not bad; they never asked for government aid, some do gooders or low life's scammed that in. So in ending; many of us of Spanish origin want you illegals out too.

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    William, you should post a link with a list of all the corporate sponsors, Senators and Congress who support the illegals on this (our) site.
    More, so all the Freedom Fighters in America could focus our efforts to them. I am so tired of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Fabin Nunez, Tony Villars now Anthony Villarosa the wife cheater, all the California politicians working for Mexico. ALL ILLEGALS GO HOME.

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    Re: Hello, new guy

    Welcome acebarker...glad to have you aboard


    Quote Originally Posted by acebarker
    I hope that I will be welcome, I only have a few minutes I just finally got to sit down without a "HOW YOU DOIN BUDDY" I don't know how to navigate through your forum yet but I really want to help this cause because if anyone has had to "defend" by God I would hope that not only everybody is here under the right conditions but playing by the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If anyone wants to shoot me a quick breakdown please do and I will be back as soon as all of my be back V****V is done.

    Good to see Americans still kickin' it while we have been out!
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    Re: Illegal Imigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Oriongalaxie
    My Parents to to this country by legal means. I am Mexican American. Born here in the states and proudly served in the Armed Forces. I have always been against those entering our country ilegally even before this was a public subject.
    The problem I have today is that we really don't see the banking complex making arguments against it. Those who benefit the most from ilegals are the banks. Everywhere one looks we see those people (the ilegals) carrrying gold credit cards, buying cars, homes etc. etc. etc. the do have purchasing power and the banking system knows this hence they allow this to take place.
    While you cant blame the banks entirely because most Americans are already tapped out financially. Hence the banking system seeks new future debtors which happen to be the hispanics - even at this time we are begening to see some of these ilegals also coming to a point where they too cannot pay for those homes, cars and credit cards joing the rest of indebt America. One could say that the hispanic population is holding the econom together to some extent. {Mod Edit}
    How can you say that the illegals are "holding the economy together" American taxpayers dish out 11-22 Billion dollars a year to illegals in welfare benefits,2.2 Billion a year to illegals in food assistance programs, 2.2 Billion to to illegals in Medicaid and 3 million dollars a day to incarcerate illegal aliens - just to mention a few free-bees illegals get from American tax payers - please do not insult American taxpayers by such comments!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad
    I got this email this morning and wanted to post it here for all who might be looking for URL's to back up our positions.

    'Snopes' is provided for doubters:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... merica.asp

    Now.................

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, e and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht < FONT color=navy>

    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/ ... tation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '.
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !

    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck,< /B> then forward it.

    Remember folks I'm just passing it on!

    Until the illegal aliens pay back about 30 years of the above; I would not support giving them a pathway to citizenship AHEAD of those legal immigrants who have followed our immigration laws .....
    "The founder's version: In Article I, Sect. 8, only Congress has the power to declare war, "War Powers Act" ...unless it is in the absolute bona fide defense of this country's borders."

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