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    Trump expected to halt Obama’s program but allow some Dreamers to stay temporarily

    Trump expected to halt Obama’s program but allow some Dreamers to stay temporarily


    By Anita Kumar and Franco Ordoñez
    McClatchy Washington Bureau


    WASHINGTON President Donald Trump is expected to end an Obama-era program that shielded young people from deportation, but he will likely let the immigrants known as Dreamers stay in the United States until their work permits run out, according to multiple people familiar with the policy negotiation.
    That plan would allow Trump to fulfill a campaign promise to end one of Barack Obama’s signature initiatives while also giving the president a way to keep the pledge he made after Inauguration Day to treat the Dreamers with “great heart,” said sources on both sides of the issue who are involved in the discussions.
    An announcement could come as soon as Friday, just days before a deadline imposed by 10 states that threatened to sue the U.S. government if it did not stop protecting people brought into the country illegally as children.
    Advocacy groups that want to preserve the program are urging the White House to ask those states — led by hurricane-ravaged Texas — to postpone their Tuesday deadline. A delay would give those groups more time to negotiate, and it could give Trump the space to avoid making a major policy announcement while his administration is eager to remain focused on hurricane recovery efforts.
    But the president is under intense pressure to move quickly to end the program — called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or, more commonly, DACA — from groups that supported his candidacy because of his pro-deportation immigration position and his promise to end this particular program on his first day in office.
    “This is something that he has absolutely turned his back on the base on,” said Chris Chmielenski, NumbersUSA’s director of content and activism. “I can’t say it enough. He promised to do it and he has not done it yet.”



    The White House certainly could ignore the deadline imposed by the states threatening to sue, and instead leave the issue to the courts or Congress. But his advisors are urging Trump to take the reins.
    “He’s been advised that it’s in his political interest for him to be the one to make the decision to terminate the program because he’ll get the credit,” said a source who is familiar with the conversations inside the White House. “And if it’s going to end anyway, why not take the credit for it?”
    Trump, the most unpredictable and unconventional U.S. leader in modern times, could still change his mind but three people knowledgeable with the situation say the president is expected to act before the Tuesday deadline.
    The idea of allowing the roughly 800,000 immigrants now protected by the program to stay for as long as two years under current work permits is supported even by many of the groups that want DACA scrapped. So long as no new permits would be given and none would be renewed, those groups see the reprieve for current DACA enrollees as necessary.
    “It seems to be the most practical way to do it,” said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman with the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group that opposes protecting Dreamers and is in talks with the administration.
    That window could give Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill who are sympathetic to these young, undocumented immigrants some time to come up with a plan before most of the recipients lose their status, said a congressional source familiar with the GOP strategy.
    64 percent of Americans support allowing Dreamers to stay in the United States, according to NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll released Thursday

    After Trump was briefed on the issue last week by his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, who has said repeatedly that he believes the program is unconstitutional, the president was prepared to end DACA. But two Republicans involved in the issue said Trump had second thoughts and postponed announcing a decision as he focused on the deadly aftermath of Hurricane Harvey.
    “I think he’s genuinely conflicted on this and trying to figure it out,” one of the Republicans said.
    White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters Thursday that DACA is still “under review.”
    “There are a lot of components that need to be looked at, and once a decision is made, we will certainly let you guys know,” she said.
    “DACA is a very, very difficult subject for me,” Trump said in February. “To me, it’s one of the most difficult subjects I have because you have these incredible kids, in many cases not in all cases. In some of the cases they’re having DACA and they’re gang members and they’re drug dealers too. But you have some absolutely incredible kids, I would say mostly.”
    The administration has continued to allow Dreamers to apply for the program and has even renewed their permits — at nearly the rate of the Obama administration — which has angered some of his own supporters.

    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC dropped its endorsement of Trump in May because he did not end DACA. ‘There is no room for compromise,” the group’s president, William Gheen, said this week.

    Advocacy groups on both sides of the issue have been bombarding the White House and lawmakers with calls and letters as the deadline looms.
    “We will not be pushed back into the shadows,” said Cristina Jiménez, executive director of the United We Dream. “We’ll continue to rally and march to show Trump and Congress that they are here to stay.”
    The 10 states threatening to sue, led by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, argue Obama overstepped his executive powers in granting the vast special protections. Other states include Kansas, South Carolina and Idaho. Another 20 states, led by California Attorney General Xavier Becerra urged Trump to refuse that request.
    In an interview on June 30, South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson said that he would be open to extending the deadline past Sept. 5 if it gave Congress more time to come up with a legislative fix, saying he supported the intent of DACA but not the mechanism by which the program was put in place.
    But officials at the governor's office in Idaho and the attorney general's office in South Carolina said late Thursday they have not been contacted about delaying their lawsuit.
    The decision follows an internal battle at the White House on DACA. Some of Trump’s top aides have been pushing him to protect Dreamers and use the issue as a bargaining chip for a larger immigration deal but Democrats stand steadfast in their refusal to negotiate. Some Trump aides express similar compassion for the Dreamers while others fear opposing the popular policy could lead to backlash with voters, business executives and donors.
    It is reprehensible to treat children as bargaining chips. America’s DREAMers are not negotiable. #DefendDACA https://t.co/wErMfpWBlh
    — Nancy Pelosi (@NancyPelosi) August 22, 2017

    Emma Dumain and Brian Murphy contributed.
    Anita Kumar: 202-383-6017, @anitakumar01
    Franco Ordoñez: 202-383-6155, @francoordonez


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    There is no other side to the issue. It is not right that illegal aliens get a voice to our citizen representatives and then lawmakers respond to work on their behalf.

    Uncontrolled illegal immigration brought us to this day. Politicians pandering and ignoring immigration laws brought us to this day. It must end this day with no more amnesties proposed for anyone here illegally.

    President Trump can do something to Make America Great Again by ending DACA and moving forward with greater immigration enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    There is no other side to the issue. It is not right that illegal aliens get a voice to our citizen representatives and then lawmakers respond to work on their behalf.

    Uncontrolled illegal immigration brought us to this day. Politicians pandering and ignoring immigration laws brought us to this day. It must end this day with no more amnesties proposed for anyone here illegally.

    President Trump can do something to Make America Great Again by ending DACA and moving forward with greater immigration enforcement.
    End it today, don't wait until Tuesday. Do it today, bring this stress and turmoil, the debate and conflicts, to an end today. Quickly and quietly, no muss, no fuss. Simple statement, program has expired, not in the best interest of America to renew, a President's job is to enforce the law and uphold the Constitution of the United States. And that's what you're doing, your job. That's it, that's all that needs to be said.
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    No more "temporary" stay...they NEVER leave

    They mouth off in our streets waving their countries flags

    Stop prolonging this and deport them all...clear cut and dry...no more coddling these criminal illegal alien trespassers draining our taxpayers financial resources!

    Send the message loud and clear...do not come here...you will be deported and we are SICK of your sob stories. Go cry the blues on your President's doorstep!
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    NO DACA - NO AMNESTY - NO PATH TO STAY - LET WORK PERMITS EXPIRE

    HAND UAC'S OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR EMBASSY!

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    Texas AG and other states should sue if Trump does not 1. End DACA applications 2. Revoke all ID and work permits 3. Instruct ICE to deport any Dreamer when possible as our current laws state!
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    They better not give one dime of OUR money, assistance or FEMA money to ANY illegal alien or illegal DACA person.

    Give them shelter on a Grey Hound bus and deport them to the border!

    We are going to be paying billions to clean up Texas and Louisiana.

    End this "dreamer" nightmare forced on the backs of US taxpayers and get them out of here.

    How many illegals are displaced with 6-8 mouths to feed? Send them back to their countries.
    NO DACA - NO AMNESTY - NO PATH TO STAY - LET WORK PERMITS EXPIRE

    HAND UAC'S OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR EMBASSY!

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    Latest from Fox News - (more confusion)

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    Colleague John Roberts rpts Sr Admin official when asked about addressing DREAMers/DACA: "Congress has to do this"
    11:56 AM · Sep 1, 2017


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    Colleague John Roberts rpts no DACA announcement today. Turning to Congress to focus on legislative solution for DREAMers
    11:54 AM · Sep 1, 2017


    https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadPergr...47325905707009



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    So now we have to fight the whole Congress on a Dream Act, Bridge Act, or whatever "act" these morons come up with jumping through their hoops for illegal aliens while forgotten Americans pay the bills without jobs to pay the bills with. DUMBEST TREASON IN HISTORY.
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    Geraldo Rivera and Rachel Campos Duffy (wife of Republican Congress member Sean Duffy) are on Fox News saying that the President cannot do this to DACA illegal aliens. They said he would not because it tears at his heart. Congress must handle it and link with border security. Entire panel for amnesty.
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    The President has waited and waited and waited and stirred up more furor.
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