Thread: OR: Teen murder victim fought back

He goes on to talk about a girl named Beth McCormick who had similar bad family circumstances--

" Beth had every opportunity and every excuse to end up on one of those grungy, roach-infested carpets in Clackamas County. Somehow, she was able to make better use of the flimsy support network that was available to her, particularly the aunt in Seattle, her brother, and several teachers at RAA. Unlike Dani, she stayed in school. And she maintained the powerful desire to rise above the wretched hand she was dealt."

According to him, if Dani had "made better use of her flimsy support network" and "maintained a powerful desire to rise above" her circumstances, she'd still be alive.

Don't you get it? It's her own fault. If these poor hard-working immigrants hadn't had the misfortune to run into an American girl who just wasn't trying hard enough to better herself, they wouldn't have had to rape and murder her.
Well, maybe the ACLU can get busy and protect their rights so they're not abused by the American legal system.

More from The Oregonian http://tinyurl.com/28ynme -- "One had been arrested 4 times on drunken driving charges over the past 7 years. They both admitted they had entered illegally from Mexico; one had an Oregon identification card."

You know, I look at this girl's sweet young cheerful face, and it breaks my heart.

Hell2Pay, they really went after you for daring to mention that Dani would still be alive if those 2 illegals weren't alllowed to be here in the first place. You don't even mention race in your post, but all the responses called you a racist. This is the kind of crap that I have learned to put up with and I almost consider it a badge of honor---when they cry "racist" in response to my arguments, it means I have hit home.

I hope you don't mind if I quote from your answer to them; it's so well said:

From hell2pay:
"This illegal alien invasion is a matter of life and death. This child would still be alive if our government would have secured our borders and enforced existing immigration laws.

I am sick and tired of people like you playing the politically correct race card while American women and children are being slaughtered by foreign invaders.

Your opinion is in the minority; the American people are not willing to die at your altar of political correctness. We should not and we will not tolerate foreign invaders killing American citizens just because somebody might get their feeling hurt if we say something about it.

If you don’t like it tough sh*t"
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Very well put, and I second your sentiments!

Slantedplanet, Hell2pay, normally those of us with a lot of time in this fight at ALIPAC would jump in and start making the rounds of media persons who support our fight, such as Lars Larson (I figure he has already jumped in) and Lou Dobbs.

As it stands right now with this particular one, I am encouraging you both to jump in, contact Lou Dobbs with the original story, and also all of the slanted articles which have made the victim into the guilty.

I encourage you both to email Dobbs and give him all you have so far on this and highlight the obvious slants against this girl. We will all be emailing him, backing it all up. Hopefuly he will give this story some national coverage and the fact that the media here in Portland has began the usual process of making her life into the reason she was killed.

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

What this man did was so unbelievably sick.

Is this not the mentallity from so many illegal men that this young womans life was of so little value, other than to provide him temporary pleasure (even though she obviously did not want his attentions), till she died. Then they did whatever it took to cover it up.

Dirt. Scum. Garbage. Don't deport them, don't talk of a death penalty, no, send them to the most rough prison, and release them into the general population and let all the others know what they did to this girl.

You can bet, with garbage around like this, I watch my almost ten year old daughter like a hawk. She does not go anywhere beyond our yard alone.

Same here AE. I have a 9 year old and it's sickening those
drunken bastards (some as old as a Grandpa) look at little
girls. When my mother visited from the south she and
my girl went for a walk and my area is probably 90%Hispanic
a HUGE number of illegals. She was sickened by the way
they behaved gawking at LITTLE girls.

I pray this young lady RIP and thank heavens she fought!!
Those bastards.

Since they both killed a teenage girl, hopefully both bastards will have to deal w/jailhouse justice once they are incarcerated. After all, it's cheaper to bury CRIMINAL illegals than deport them.

Some update on this story:

I will pass along from varied glimpses of local media that:

1. One of the perps had 4 DUIs here - gee. And, how can Clackamas County shovel him off-the-radar with respect to legal status (eg. should have been 'found' and deported a LONG time ago...)

2. I have contacted the local Sheriff's Dept. which is processing and holding these perps. I specifically asked about employment / employer and if the contact person for the Public Info Officer has any info he can share on that subject. I'll pass it along if / when I get a response.

In case anyone here is curious, you can go more directly to the source at the links below:

(Detective Jim Strovink is the main Public Info Officer - he handles all the media and related publicity stuff at the local county Sheriff's Office.)

http://www.clackamas.us/sheriff/

http://web4.co.clackamas.or.us/mrm/3053.html

3. I also heard earlier this week, that the perps were complaining about the jail being too hot or too cold, that they didn't like the food, and lodged other misc. complaints about their surroundings... (Ha! - get used to it pals, you probably won't have a really good time in jail).

Originally Posted by nntrixie

After reading the other story about the men with TB in GA, I am wondering if Mexico is not sending their diseased people here. That way they don't have to treat them.

Correct. Not just TB:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... mmunicable

Originally Posted by slantedplanet

You know I was discussing this young girl's rape/murder on another forum and was told over and over that I'm just being racist by pointing out that these 2 men were most likely illegal aliens. This is the attitude I usually get when I point out crime stats involving illegals.

But, shouldn't it be obvious to even the most simple-minded nincompoop that their victims would be alive if we'd stop tolerating the presence of invaders in our midst? And if businesses would stop hiring them. Which they would, if we all would stop doing business with the people that hire them.

When are the people for illegals going to understand that is not about race My grandson that was killed by an illegal was hispanic, my husband and oldest daughter are hispanic. IT IS ABOUT ILLEGAL Your are not racist by any means slanted. You just want what the rest of us concerned citizens and victims of illegals want. ENFORCE OUR LAWS AND SECURE OUR BORDERS. WHY ARE THE SUITS IN DC NOT GETTING THAT I think they are not getting it because they have not suffered as my family is or the other 48,000 and counting, killed since 9/11 that have died at the hands of an illegal. Until it hits home for one of them, which I would never wish on anyone, even my worst enemy, maybe some eyes will open then. But until something as tragic happens to one of their own, they aren't trying to get it and never will. It's too out of their realm to watch their own kids, clean their homes, mow their own yards, etc. So sad but so true. Does anyone agree

^^ I used to get called the racist word also and it really used
to bother me but not any longer. I've found this place to be
the ONLY place that understands the issues and for the most
part stays on topic. I can be myself and most importantly
express myself without being attacked here. ^^

I need some help here folks!

I just did some Google and Google News searches tonight to see what kind of media penetration this story is getting.

The fact that this was brown on white crime, makes it a big candidate for the kind of national censorship we see on a regular basis in America via our monitoring.

Here is the main article we have on the homepage

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=N ... =1&thold=0

I plugged in the name "Rivera Gamboa" in quotes on the Google News engine and Im only getting 30 results.

This story is running in Oregon, Texas, and two lone blips in WA and OK.

Here are my google results as of 11:30pm EST tonight.

http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl= ... &scoring=n

Dani's death: The darkness wins
OregonLive.com, OR - 19 hours ago
Two men who had been hanging around Dani's informal going away party -- Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier "Gabe" Arellano ...

Jails vary in checks on status of inmates
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 10, 2007
Illustrating the problem is the recent arrest of Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, accused with his cousin in the death of 15-year-old Dani ...

News Minute: Here is the latest Texas news from The Associated Press
Team 4 News, TX - Aug 10, 2007
The Oregonian newspaper in Portland reports Alejandro Rivera Gamboa went unnoticed by immigration officials -- even though he's been charged with drunken ...

Suspect in Oregon death of Texas teen not deported despite DUI's
KSWO, OK - Aug 10, 2007
The Oregonian newspaper reports that 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa went unnoticed by immigration officials even though he was arrested four times on ...

Suspect in Oregon death of Texas teen not deported despite DUI's
Houston Chronicle, United States - Aug 10, 2007
One of the men, Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, 24, went unnoticed by immigration officials even though he was arrested four times on drunken driving charges since ...

Suspect's status as illegal goes unflagged
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 10, 2007
Portland-area police arrested Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa four times on drunken driving charges over the past seven years, but he went unnoticed ...

Smoking their cigs, scratching their tattoos
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 9, 2007
Alejandro Emeterio Rivera Gamboa, 24, and his cousin, Gilberto Javier Arellano Gamboa, 23, were arraigned Tuesday on charges of murdering the vivacious ...

Shoe Led To Arrests In Texas Teenager’s Murder
KWTX, TX - Aug 8, 2007
Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa and Gilberto Arellano-Gamboa have been arraigned in the death of Dani Countryman. The Kaufman teenager was in the Portland area ...

Suspect stepped on girl's neck, police say
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 8, 2007
Alejandro Rivera Gamboa responded by stepping on Countryman's throat until she stopped moving. That's how investigators described Countryman's death in a ...

Shoe led to arrest in girl's death at Ore. apartment
KTVZ, OR - Aug 7, 2007
That's according to court documents released today as Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa and Gilberto Arellano-Gamboa were arraigned on charges of aggravated murder in ...

Two Arraigned In Texas Girl's Violent Death
KOIN.com, OR - Aug 7, 2007
Alejandro "Alex" Rivera-Gamboa, 24, and his cousin Gilberto "Gabe" Arellano-Gamboa, 23, were arraigned on charges of aggravated murder. ...

Shoe led to arrest in girl's death at Ore. apartment
KLTV, TX - Aug 7, 2007
Forensic scientists from the Oregon State Police said a shoe seized from 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa had blood on it. The pattern of the shoe was ...

Shoe led to arrest in girl's death at Ore. apartment
Houston Chronicle, United States - Aug 7, 2007
Alejandro Rivera-Gamboa, 24, of Clackamas, and Gilberto Arellano-Gamboa, 23, of Milwaukie, appeared in Clackamas County Circuit Court on Tuesday, ...

Attempted rape led to teen's death, prosecutors say
KOMO, WA - Aug 7, 2007
Cousins Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera-Gamboa, 24, and 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Arellano-Gamboa have both been charged with aggravated murder in the ...

Cousins charged in death of Dani Countryman
KTVZ, OR - Aug 7, 2007
Twenty-4-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa are being held in the county jail in the death of Dani Countryman. ...

Two arrested in murder of 15-year-old girl
KOMO, WA - Aug 7, 2007
Alejandro Emeterio Rivera-Gamboa, who was already in jail on an unrelated drunken driving charge that was levied against him the night the teenager's body ...

Suspects arrested in teen's murder
Kaufman Herald, TX - Aug 7, 2007
The Clackamas County Sheriff's Office has charged Alejandro Emeterio Rivera-Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier Rivera-Gamboa, 23, with aggravated murder. ...

Oregon men arrested for Texas teen's strangulation
WFAA (subscription), TX - Aug 7, 2007
According to Clackamas County investigators, 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa was arrested Saturday at the scene of the murder. His cousin, 23-year-old ...

Two Arrested In Strangling Case
NBC5i.com, TX - Aug 7, 2007
The Clackamas County Sheriff's Office said 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, and 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa, are being held. ...

Cousins charged in death of Texas teen in Oregon
KSWO, OK - Aug 7, 2007
Clackamas County authorities say 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, and 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa are jailed in Oregon City, Oregon. ...

Cousins charged in strangling of teen
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 7, 2007
Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 24, has been in the county jail since his arrest at the scene the day Dani's body was found, held on a probation ...

Cousins charged in death of Texas teen in Oregon
Houston Chronicle, United States - Aug 6, 2007
Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa, 23, were lodged in the county jail and scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday, said Detective Jim ...

Two Arrested In Texas Teen’s Killing
KPTV.com, OR - Aug 6, 2007
Clackamas County deputies said Alejandro River Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Rivera Gamboa, 23, have been arrested and charged with aggravated murder. ...

Two Arrested In Girl's Murder
KOIN.com, OR - Aug 6, 2007
Monday night they arrested two men: 24-year-old Alejandro "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, and 23-year-old Gilberto "Gabe" Rivera Gamboa. The two are related; ...

Police arrest 2 Oregon men in death of Dani Countryman
KTVZ, OR - Aug 6, 2007
Clackamas County authorities say 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, and 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa were being held at the county jail. ...

Two Suspects Arrested in Milwaukie Murder Case
Salem-News.Com, OR - Aug 6, 2007
The Clackamas County Sheriff's Major Crimes Unit arrested 24-year old Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, and 23-year old Gilberto Javier "Gabe" Rivera ...

Police arrest 2 Oregon men in death of Texas teen
Houston Chronicle, United States - Aug 6, 2007
Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, 24, and Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa, 23, were being held at the Clackamas County Jail, said Detective Jim Strovink, ...

Two cousins arrested in strangling of teen
OregonLive.com, OR - Aug 6, 2007
Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 24, has been in the county jail since his arrest at the scene Saturday for a probation violation warrant for ...

Two arrests in murder of teen in Milwaukie
Clackamas Review, OR - Aug 6, 2007
Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa was arrested last Saturday on a probation violation warrant for driving under the influence. ...

Two arrested for teen's strangulation death in Milwaukie apartment
kgw.com (subscription), OR - Aug 6, 2007
According to Clackamas County investigators, 24-year-old Alejandro Rivera Gamboa was arrested last Saturday. Detectives said he had a warrant for an ...

I AM STILL RESEARCHING AND NEEDING HELP.

HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS STORY ON FOX, CNN, or any of the MSM networks yet?

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