Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
I'm not necessarily saying I agree with NumbersUSA but I do understand their position. Trump's constant insistence that he supports a DACA amnesty for a border fence has made them feel the DACA amnesty is inevitable. Knowing this probably makes them feel they must fight to include things in the amnesty that will actually be of benefit to the American people. It's notable that NumbersUSA has come out against the specific plan the Trump administration has put out.

NumbersUSA has been a champion for the American people and against illegal amnesty since their inception. Personally, I would hate to see ALIPAC break ties with them over a single disagreement. In my opinion, such a move would do nothing to benefit ALIPAC in our continued fight against illegal immigrant amnesty. Just my two cents, for what it's worth.
NumbersUSA, CIS and FAIR all went to the White House over a year ago and proposed these stupid DACA DEALS to the White House, not the other way around. This is not a "single disagreement". It is the stupid sell out of the century by dishonest not for profits exploiting their members for money and donations who haven't delivered on one single piece of legislation in over 20 years, so they are desperate for a win of some type, and THEY are the ones who went to DC to meet and lobby the White House for a DACA DEAL. He rejected it for months, all the while the CHURCHES are pounding and pounding about the "incredible kids" and a "bill of love". These aren't Trump's words, it's church words. I heard it right from the mouth of the President of the Hispanic Christian Leadership Council, these are their PR Slogans to try to force this President into a deal. Krikorian of CIS bragged about it, saying Trump would be an idiot not to use the DACAs to get immigration reductions. And NumbersUSA, they were far sneakier because they knew how upset their members would be over it, but they were finally outed and had to come clean and admitted they wanted a deal to get E-Verify and an end to chain migration. Trump didn't come up with this chain migration thing, this was proposed by our once "allies", FAIR, CIS and NumbersUSA. These are the big "immigration hawks" Congress and many Administrations rely upon for data and political viewpoints. They have let us all down, sold out our country for nothing.

Like I posted elsewhere, you have the immigration hawk "base" that all support a DACA DEAL except ALIPAC. You have the church and evangelical "base" that all support a DACA DEAL, every major religion in the country supports the DACA DEAL. You have the business "base" of employers who hire DACAs, who all want to keep their DACA employees. So that leaves who? The forgotten Americans like us here at ALIPAC. The question is, who will win this time? Will the "hawks" desperate for a long-lost victory, the phony churches desperate for new members and continuing drug money donations, and business employers who don't want to have to replace their DACA workers win? Hell, even Fox News wants a DACA DEAL.

Or will we, the forgotten Americans, win?

We will lose in the Senate. We already know that. It doesn't matter a whit what the Senate bill says or does, it will pass and we will despise it.

So it all boils down to House Republicans and the President creating an impenetrable gridlock.

Will they do it? We'll soon find out.