Thread: Illegal Immigration & Amnesty Fighting Groups Targeted for Suppression By Facebook

Facebook does not have the right to secretly conduct psychological experiments on users and abridge our civil rights secretly. If you are willing to bow down and accept their underhanded abuse of Americans in this way then you are conceding the battlefield to the enemy.

The fact you even know about these abuses took years of efforts on our part and only recently have we broken on to the national scene with these claims.

Facebook does not have the right to allow pro socialist professional trolls to violate TOS and threaten conservative activists with violence and employment persecution! Facebook does not have the right to throw conservatives into Facebook Jail for making posts that do not violate the TOS!

You might think that socialist have the right to abuse civil rights and American defenders simply because Facebook.com is a private company, but I disagree with all my heart and soul!

Using your logic, ALIPAC should not have fought these battles, should not have even attempted to organize on Facebook, and should not be exerting ourselves to warn unknowing Americans of this diabolical behavior and abuse!

Facebook has to be secretive of their abuses of American conservatives or otherwise risk losing investors and users that are aware of the bias and abuses. And not only would they lose users and money from their dirty deeds being know, but their ability to influence voting behavior, consumer behavior, and policies of the United States is diminished if people become aware of the manipulations, threats, and attacks.

In Germany, the Facebook union with the German government means that an "anti-immigrant" post about the Muslim refugees raping and beating people on your street outside your home results in police being sent to your door, termination of your employment, and social services sent to take your children.

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Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Facebook does not have the right to secretly conduct psychological experiments on users and abridge our civil rights secretly. If you are willing to bow down and accept their underhanded abuse of Americans in this way then you are conceding the battlefield to the enemy.

The fact you even know about these abuses took years of efforts on our part and only recently have we broken on to the national scene with these claims.

Facebook does not have the right to allow pro socialist professional trolls to violate TOS and threaten conservative activists with violence and employment persecution! Facebook does not have the right to throw conservatives into Facebook Jail for making posts that do not violate the TOS!

The TOS, or Terms of Service are precisely the point. These are the agreements you submit to when you use somebody's website. If you here at ALIPAC forum remove one of my posts or ban me outright, then you are not violating any of my civil rights, you are exercising your civil rights to publish content the way you want to. There is no easy way for me to determine the source or reason I am subject to discipline on your site. I might pursue it the same way you do at Facebook and this is my right within the law, but it remains. Both Facebook and the ALIPAC forum are just websites, private publishing concerns that are free to run their websites any way they want to.

When you use a website like Facebook, you are submitting to the rules and editorial policies established by Facebook. That doesn't mean that you cannot criticize these policies or expose them to public scrutiny or criticism, it just means that you don't have any say as to what they are.

If you are threatened or otherwise have your civil rights violated by other users of Facebook, then your complaint is really with those other users. Facebook cannot be held responsible for the relationships that exist between you and other users. If Facebook refuses to enforce its own TOS against some of its users and not others, this is not a civil matter.

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

You might think that socialist have the right to abuse civil rights and American defenders simply because Facebook.com is a private company, but I disagree with all my heart and soul!

Using your logic, ALIPAC should not have fought these battles, should not have even attempted to organize on Facebook, and should not be exerting ourselves to warn unknowing Americans of this diabolical behavior and abuse!

Facebook has to be secretive of their abuses of American conservatives or otherwise risk losing investors and users that are aware of the bias and abuses. And not only would they lose users and money from their dirty deeds being know, but their ability to influence voting behavior, consumer behavior, and policies of the United States is diminished if people become aware of the manipulations, threats, and attacks.

In Germany, the Facebook union with the German government means that an "anti-immigrant" post about the Muslim refugees raping and beating people on your street outside your home results in police being sent to your door, termination of your employment, and social services sent to take your children.

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Rather obviously, I do not think that abuses of civil rights are at issue at all. Again, the freedom to run a website the way you want to and control its content is itself a civil right. As a private corporate interest, the very principled backbone of freedom or the press, Facebook is free to form relationships with anyone or any government it chooses, within the law.

I don't like Facebook at all and avoid its services where I can. I would never be fool enough to wage some kind of political campaign dependent on it, I regret that you have invested so much time doing so yourself. You might observe, since you are so resourceful, that I have never so much as visited your Facebook account, despite spending so much time here. I'll guess that I'm not alone in this.

I don't think that Trump has a Facebook account, I know he uses Twitter, a much simpler website and less liable to editorial oversight than Facebook. Follow his example. Dump Facebook, show them you know what side is up.

Im glad you feel you are not a fool that would use Facebook but when you run a national organization with the objectives ALIPAC has you cannot just stay away from Facebook. You can either fight or quit as people have moved away from websites and into social media like Twitter and Facebook. We have over 600,000 people on Facebook that signed up to support our pages and efforts that Facebook now blocks us from reaching unless we want to pay a lot of money.

Trump has a huge Facebook account with 7.8 million people on it. You are mistaken about that and many other things in your post.

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/

Facebook receives billions of dollars in tax waivers from the US government in return for all our data they turn over to the Obama admin and as such a subsidiary of our government Facebook should apply constitutional standards to issues involving freedom of speech, the press, and assembly.

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Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Im glad you feel you are not a fool that would use Facebook but when you run a national organization with the objectives ALIPAC has you cannot just stay away from Facebook. You can either fight or quit as people have moved away from websites and into social media like Twitter and Facebook. We have over 600,000 people on Facebook that signed up to support our pages and efforts that Facebook now blocks us from reaching unless we want to pay a lot of money.

Trump has a huge Facebook account with 7.8 million people on it. You are mistaken about that and many other things in your post.

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/

Facebook receives billions of dollars in tax waivers from the US government in return for all our data they turn over to the Obama admin and as such a subsidiary of our government Facebook should apply constitutional standards to issues involving freedom of speech, the press, and assembly.

W

Just because a website does business with the government doesn't mean that the government can or should exercise editorial authority over that website.

Trump is in the hotel business and if were to take away his hotel business away from Facebook, Facebook would suffer a nasty boo-boo.

Sorry, but any way you look at it, in the end the only thing you are left with is that Facebook is just another website. It's a huge website, it's not sitting on an old computer in somebody's apartment, but just like a website sitting on an old computer in somebody's apartment, it is just a website.

The rights they extend over their website are the same you exercise over yours. I respect your editorial authority over this website even though I have complained about it. For me, your authority is a matter of principle. If you don't like the way they are treating you on Facebook, there is nothing you can do or should be able to do about it except complain.

Good luck with that.