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    Reid falls back a few short days on Amnesty in the Senate

    Friends of ALIPAC,

    We are glad to report that the major vote on the Dream Amnesty bill in the US Senate has been pushed back again to Monday of next week. This extra time slightly increases our chances of defeating Amnesty.

    Senator Reid plans to push the version of the bill that just passed the House.

    The bad news is that I estimate this Amnesty has about a 65% chance (at this moment) of making it to President Obama's desk, although I hope to be wrong and will do all in my power to stop Amnesty.

    The Republicans are filibustering on the Dream Amnesty for now to get what they want in the government budget and tax breaks for Americans making over $250,000 per year. They are signaling that they are willing to help pass Amnesty if Obama, Reid, and Pelosi give them what they want.

    The GOP leadership in the Senate is not fighting to defeat or destroy Dream Amnesty. Many of them are simply pushing back the vote to increase the price tag on their cloture votes.

    In back rooms and hallways, the offers to Republicans in the form of legislation they want, funding for their districts, funds for their campaigns, and probably things that will help their personal wealth rise are being offered.

    There are more than enough RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) who are willing to defy the national GOP Platform to pass Dream Amnesty.

    The most likely scenario is that Republicans will keep pushing back the vote on Dream Amnesty. Then, just before they adjourn a few Republicans will suddenly defect to the side of the Democrats and vote Yes on cloture to let the bill proceed to a vote. Then many of them will turn around and vote against the Amnesty bill, but it will earn over 50 votes and pass.

    The shifty ones will then exclaim they voted against Amnesty, when in fact they voted to pass it.

    They will likely send over Republican Senators who are not up for reelection in 2012 who are in states they feel they can easily be reelected a GOP traitor. After all, the election results from AZ and NV told senators there is no need for them to listen to their constituents on immigration issues. You can betray your constituents like McCain and Reid and still be elected to the US Senate this is the example that has been set!

    This will be much easier for them to do considering the major media black out.

    While Fox News has reports about Dream Amnesty votes on their website they are NOT broadcasting content or notice of these votes.

    I personally had Fox News on in the background for over 4 hours today and heard no mention of the impending vote in the Senate nor the historic passage of the Dream Act Amnesty in the House last night.

    The Drudge Report also took a dive and had no news contents warning conservative readers of the impending Amnesty votes. Who knows how much Matt Drudge was paid with Saudi money flooding DC to lay down, but there was nothing there.

    This is very unfortunate for us because most of our allies on talk radio have become addicted to the ease of getting their daily news stories for their shows from the Drudge Report news aggregation service!

    So between Fox News and Drudge Report blacking this story, and Lou Dobbs now being a turn coat Amnesty supporter and being off of CNN, most of America has no idea that this is even happening.

    The American public is not informed enough or agitated enough for us to stop this Amnesty push in my opinion and the communication channels necessary to alert them are being disrupted.

    Pundits continue to assure English speaking conservative audiences that there is no reason for alarm or concern and that these votes on the Dream Act Amnesty are merely symbolic and have no chance of passage.

    This is pure propaganda designed to keep the patient calm and docile, while major surgery takes place on lady America, as she sleeps.

    Please remember that while the Tea Party groups fought against the unpopular health-care legislation, that 2 out of 3 Americans opposed, Congressman Luis Gutierrez assured his awaiting illegal alien troops to rest easy because the passage of the health-care bill was the practice run for Amnesty.

    They have our communications choked off and a media blackout or brown out in place. Dream Amnesty activists are practicing a high degree of aggression towards groups like ALIPAC. English speaking audiences are being pacified with lies, and the amount of political theater taking place speaks to the danger level.

    Please continue your calls to the House and to the Senate. Please continue sending in your much needed donations and please continue to rally the Americans around you.

    We will fight with all we have and we will pray that it is God's will that we prevail in a nation, where so many bad things have flourished.

    More info will be sent to you soon.

    Yours in the cause,


    William Gheen
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    Illegals

    The Demos are manipulating the process in the Senate because they know they do not have the votes. They want to make sure they do have the votes and will offer the Repubs anything the Repubs want to pass this madness for illegal criminals. We must not allow this. Americans do not want the Dream Act. So Reid and his friends must stop this madness. And somebody should tell Reid and Pelosi: Do not manipulate the process in the Senate. And that here what matters is the will of Americans. We do not care what Pelosi and Reid think about the Dream Act. Americans run the show. Pelosi and Reid do not. Pelosi and Reid have to go.

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    W, I'm confused. I'm not getting the DREAM Act text at thomas.gov when I type in HR 5281. This is what I get:

    H.R.5281
    Latest Title: Removal Clarification Act of 2010
    Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] (introduced 5/12/2010) Cosponsors (3)
    Related Bills: H.RES.1756
    Latest Major Action: 12/8/2010 Resolving differences -- House actions. Status: On motion to to agree to the Senate amendments numbered 1 and 2, and that the House agree to the Senate amendment numbered 3 with an amendment Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 216 - 198 (Roll no. 625).
    Latest Action: 12/8/2010 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)

    Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 5/12/2010
    Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 5/12/2010
    Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 5/12/2010

    http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D ... BSS;c=111|
    ************************************************** *******

    Now, I KNOW Lamar Smith and Howard Coble are NOT co-sponsors of the DREAM Act!

    HR 6497 , dated December 7, 2010 is what I get for the DREAM Act from thomas.gov.

    What am I missing?

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    I don't believe any of them.
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    William is right.

    The worst thing about this whole thing is that Americans are not aware of the vastness of this Dream Act. They are in the dark.

    The average person thinks the bill is just about 'the children.' And no one is telling them anything different...other than ALIPAC, Numbersusa, and some other internet sites.

    I learn more about what is really in the Dream Act by readying the comment sections under the different nicely written news articles, than I do reading the articles.

    FOX is not on our side. Neither is Hannity, or Limbaugh, or many of the others. In fact who IS on our side?

    Every one in the media seems to be on the side of the illegal aliens and they appear to not care about what this Dream Act will do to America's children and their country.
    Ron Paul in 2011 "[...]no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a 'green card' with an asterisk should be issued[...]a much better option than deportation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by florgal
    W, I'm confused. I'm not getting the DREAM Act text at thomas.gov when I type in HR 5281...
    This is accurate. I know it's confusing. Also, the text may not be up on thomas yet, since this was done under House "martial law" rules. The Dream Act was a Senate amendment attached to a House bill. Someone more familiar with House procedures than me will have to explain how this happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Quote Originally Posted by florgal
    W, I'm confused. I'm not getting the DREAM Act text at thomas.gov when I type in HR 5281...
    This is accurate. I know it's confusing. Also, the text may not be up on thomas yet, since this was done under House "martial law" rules. The Dream Act was a Senate amendment attached to a House bill. Someone more familiar with House procedures than me will have to explain how this happened.

    Info on martial law
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    Thanks Dixie. I just wanted to print the dang thing out and compare it to the other Senate one to see what the difference is, if any. I'm ready to pull out my hair!

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    Luis Gutierrez

    this is what happens when foreigners are allowed into our governments

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    onetrickydude wrote:
    Luis Gutierrez

    this is what happens when foreigners are allowed into our governments
    The problem is Gutierrez was born in Chicago. He is Puerto Rican has been listed as a member of the Pruerto Rican Socialist Party.
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    I"m confused ?

    I had Fox on from 4am this morning and heard a lot of reference to the vote
    including Carl Cameren live , They were about 20 minutes behind on their reporting but I saw a lot of coverage

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