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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    The Wall is not my first choice, my first choice is full military on the border, because this is an INVASION.
    We have fencing ( a wall) between North and South Korea. It marks the line not to cross. But it would be run over without personnel. Our southern border is not a military zone. But maintaining troops forever is not a solution. Okay for the short term, but for the long term we need a "Big Beautiful Wall"!

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    Let the military decide what they need to STOP this INVASION, and if it is 20 miles of Wall or 1900 miles---build it. If it is no wall at all, and they prefer other methods than that is fine.
    And what is the cost of a wall sitting there 24 hours a day versus 3 shifts of troops over the same 24 hours? Simple math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    Our southern border is not a military zone.
    It needs to be!

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    And what is the cost of a wall sitting there 24 hours a day versus 3 shifts of troops over the same 24 hours? Simple math.
    Didn't I say, if the military needs it build it?

    At the rate we are going a Wall will be built sometime between a 100 years and NEVER, the military can be there pronto! This is an emergency!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post

    And what is the cost of a wall sitting there 24 hours a day versus 3 shifts of troops over the same 24 hours? Simple math.
    We are paying our military anyway, so where would the added cost be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    It needs to be!
    I agree!

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    Didn't I say, if the military needs it build it?
    So you are for the military making decisions for the country? The military is financed by Congress who also has the responsibility to pay for a wall. So for the military to pay to build a wall they would have to steal from their budget or get Congress to increase their budget to pay for it. Our country was designed to be run by civilians, not military.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
    At the rate we are going a Wall will be built sometime between a 100 years and NEVER, the military can be there pronto! This is an emergency!
    And the military can't build the wall any faster. It is getting the decision made to DO IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    We are paying our military anyway, so where would the added cost be?
    (MOD Edit) If the military needs 300,000 troops along the border, where do they come from? The DMZ has 23,468 guarding 160 miles of border. I guess you short other missions around the world. Lets pull in the reservists and put the entire military on 12 hour shifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post

    So you are for the military making decisions for the country?
    Definitely think the military would know more about what they need to defend the country than many of the congresscritters who wouldn't know a Rifle from a Pogo Stick.


    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    The military is financed by Congress who also has the responsibility to pay for a wall. So for the military to pay to build a wall they would have to steal from their budget or get Congress to increase their budget to pay for it. Our country was designed to be run by civilians, not military.

    And the military can't build the wall any faster. It is getting the decision made to DO IT!
    How's this getting the money from Congress working out?

    The military can replace soccer fields and swimming pools in Afghanistan, military parades in DC, and other items with the Wall in their budget.

    Our country was designed to be run by civilians, but I don't think our founders thought most of them would be in favor of invaders over the citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    (MOD Edit) If the military needs 300,000 troops along the border, where do they come from? The DMZ has 23,468 guarding 160 miles of border. I guess you short other missions around the world. Lets pull in the reservists and put the entire military on 12 hour shifts.
    You (MOD Edit) want the USA to keep on spending 100+ Billion a year on these invaders instead of STOPPING the invasion.

    Who said anything at all about putting 300,000 troops on the border? That would be 150 per mile. Don't insult our military by claiming that many would be needed, and don't tie their hands behind their backs to keep them from protecting this country, their fellow soldiers, and their self.

    The DMZ has 23,458 guarding 160 miles while we have 20,000 Border Control guarding 2000 miles---something very wrong with picture!

    About shorting other missions around the world, it is time to take care of our country. If we don't, we are not going to have a country to do all these missions around the world and be the piggy bank for the entire world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Definitely think the military would know more about what they need to defend the country than many of the congresscritters who wouldn't know a Rifle from a Pogo Stick.
    Sorry, but the military knows what they want, but not what they need. That is why they want F35s regardless of the cost. When you aren't paying for your supplies you want the absolute best money can buy. Congress is supposed to mind the wallet.

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    How's this getting the money from Congress working out?
    The budget, that Congress passed and the President signed, financed them. So it all comes from Congress, per the Constitution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Who said anything at all about putting 300,000 troops on the border? That would be 150 per mile.
    That's an extrapolation of the troops on the DMZ, which is only 160 miles long, expanded to 2000 miles.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
    Don't insult our military by claiming that many would be needed, and don't tie their hands behind their backs to keep them from protecting this country, their fellow soldiers, and their self.
    It doesn't take the Border Patrol as many as the military would use. But we know they are not as effective as full military control.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
    The DMZ has 23,458 guarding 160 miles while we have 20,000 Border Control guarding 2000 miles---something very wrong with picture!
    Like what? The difference in manpower and cost in a controlled border between two countries and a militarized border between enemies.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders
    About shorting other missions around the world, it is time to take care of our country. If we don't, we are not going to have a country to do all these missions around the world and be the piggy bank for the entire world.
    I don't disagree! It is about the cost of having a wall versus armed personnel as a virtual fence. The wall is more cost efficient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    (MOD Edit) There is no direct connection. I can't know that and you can't know that it isn't true.

    I'm for the wall, but looking at the post on this forum, illegal aliens are the only ones committing rape, homicide, assaults,

    (MOD Edit) Stop making stuff up!

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