Thread: Go back to Europe Email to ALIPAC

Subject: (no subject)
From: Ealicia621@aol.com
Date: Thu, March 30, 2006 9:52 pm
To: williamg@alipac.us


we are not illegal you bunch of ignorant idiots we are natives to this land
we never came here we have always been here! ask native americans if
europeans legally stole their land? you settled? well we feel like settling in
our land too! Go back to europe or where ever in the hell your white ass
came from

Remind me again who won the Mexican/American war back in 1846?

Emails like that must mean that we're doing our jobs.

Correct me if I am wrong, but they were also defeated by the Spanairds as well? Maybe they should be trying to take over Spain.

Pinto Bean

sounds like a plan

They need to go back to Asia, Europeans were here first, 40,000 years ago before "Native Americans" walked over from Siberia. Recent artifacts dug up in Virginia prove it. Apparently these first American inhabitants interbred with the Asians when they came here, some American Indian tribes have about 20% ancient (not recent) European DNA.

That's very interesting...I guess the $15 million dollars Mexico got IN EXCHANGE for California and other Southwest States means that we forcably took it from them...and wasn't it the Spainards who settled in California???

Now, y'all, don't go bothering their tiny little minds with facts...their minds are made up.

RR

Another feeble attempt by the factually and logically challenged.

Elicia621,

Your presence within the borders of the United States of America is an illegal act because you entered without the permission of our government and therefore you are indeed illegally here.

If you had always been "here" as you claim, then you would not have had to enter and it would not be an issue.

One reason that you were not "here" previously is that the Apache and other Indian tribes would not allow it. I doubt very much if your ancestors who you claim were "here", but were not "here", would have impressed the Apache much by telling them that the Apaches stole your land and that they should go back to Asia.

The "here" you refer to is not "here", but some other place on the continent. Like it or not, all modern and European descended countries for some time have established borders and American Indian tribes established tribal regions. You were not allowed to be "here" regardless of which it was. The only reason you are here now is primarily because there are some among us who do not want to offend you with the truth and to some extent they are as uneducated and foolish as you.

It is not really germane, but "we have always been here" is not true either even if here "means" someplace in this hemisphere. Your ancestors came about 12,000 - 13,000 years ago which was likely before the ancestors of any current Europeans, but it isn't "always".

If you are talking about Spanish blood, then that would be European blood as well. Whichever way you look at it, Native or European, you are attempting to justify being here by saying that somebody stole land from themselves which makes no sense.

The fact that you say "we feel like settling in our land" is a clear admission that you didn't previously settle "here" and therefore you have not "always been here" as previously claimed. How can you now settle something you have always been on? Answer. You are not settling anything, but attempting to justify a parasitic attachment to what was settled and built by somebody else. Even the notion that the land was once stolen from Mexico is weak, because although Mexico claimed the land (because some Pope who didn't own the land granted it to Spain who ceded it to Mexico), Mexico wasn't very successful in settling it and thus owning it. Possession is 9/10 of the law as they say, and Mexico never possessed much of it. And, even if Mexico owned the land and even if the U.S. stole the land, Mexico granted the U.S. amnesty for stealing it in the Treaty of Guadelupe-Hidalgo in 1848. So, unless amnesties are revocable, neither Mexico nor the Mexican people have any claim whatsoever.

The U.S. or what was to become the U.S., was given some land by Native American tribes, some land was purchased or bartered for, and some was taken by force. But none of that land was from your ancestors, so you have no standing or claim. Land and territory has been disputed and has changed ownership since the beginning of history and according to your logic I should be able to claim the continent of Africa or the Garden of Eden or most anything I want. I don't think that would work. My dog tells me it really is the last dog to piss on the tree and the size of the dog that counts. I think we better just protect our trees and our borders so that we don't have to get really nasty about straightening things out again.

was this email reported to AOL? I think he could get banned for it - I hope so.