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Texas Secession Petition Racks Up More Than 80,000 Signatures, Qualifies For White House Response

By Dominique Mosbergen
Posted: 11/13/2012 6:42 pm EST Updated: 11/13/2012 6:54 pm EST



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A petition for Texas secession has qualified to receive a White House response.
As of Tuesday evening, the petition -- which asks for the peaceful withdrawal of the state of Texas from the union -- had racked up more than 81,000 signatures. (Only 25,000 are needed to elicit an official response from the Obama administration.)

According to Politico, the leader of the Texas secession movement said the president's reelection last week was a “catalyzing moment for his organization’s efforts to quit the United States."

“I am completely aware that Election Day was a catalyzing moment, but I do not believe that the underpinnings of this are solely about Barack Obama,” Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement told the political news website. “This cake has been baking for a long time -- it’s the Obama administration that put the candles on the cake and lit it for us.”

The Texas petition reads:

Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

The support for the petition has surged in the last couple of days despite Texas Gov. Rick Perry's calls to support the union.

On Monday, The Huffington Post reported that the governor's press secretary, Catherine Frazier, said that Perry "believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it." Frazier added, however, that the governor "also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."

The Lone Star State is not exactly alone in its sentiments.

As an earlier Huffington Post report notes, residents in more than 40 states have filed secession petitions to the Obama administration's "We the People" program, which is featured on the White House website, in the last few days.

Though none has come even close to Texas' number, many petitions -- including those of Georgia, Florida, Alabama and Tennessee -- have attracted more than 20,000 supporters. Louisiana's petition has garnered more than 30,000 signatures.

“As the economy worsened, people began to ask, ‘What if? Why do we need the middle man? Do we believe that we should have more layers of government than we absolutely need? Could Texas govern itself?’ I think really that self-determination is kind of the underpinning to all of this -- the ability to provide Texas solutions to Texas problems,” Miller told Politico of the state's aspirations for independence.

Miller has not been the only vocal and visible proponent of a Texas secession. Last week, Peter Morrison, a Texas GOP official, called for an "amicable divorce" from the United States.

"Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government?" Morrison, a treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, wrote in a post-election edition of his Tea Party newsletter. "Let each go her own way."

Morrison went on to express exasperation at the "maggots" who backed Obama, specifically accusing non-white voters of voting for the president on an "ethnic basis."
Despite the loud calls for Texas independence, however, the Daily Caller notes that not all Texans are too keen to secede from the U.S.

On Monday, “Caleb M” from Austin, Texas, launched a "We the People" petition of his own, asking the Obama administration to peacefully grant the city of Austin permission to "withdraw from the state of Texas" and to remain part of the United States.

The petition has about 1,400 signatures so far.

As Robert Wilonsky at The Dallas Morning News noted on Monday, however, it seems that no matter how much support Texas' secession petition gets, the state's bid for independence is likely not on the cards.

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Texas Secession Petition Racks Up More Than 80,000 Signatures, Qualifies For White House Response

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The White House website has been bombarded with petitions that have mushroomed to 34 states moving to secede. The first petition came in from Louisiana the day after Obama's re-election, and since then a chorus of others have issued their grievances.

Now, under White House rules stated in its "We the People" program, if 25,000 people sign on by December 7th, a response must be issued. Just a few days after submitting, that number has been reached by the petitions from Texas, Louisiana, and Georgia -- with Texas closing in on 90,000.

Here is the current list of state totals:

1. Alaska (5,306)
2. Alabama (24,721)
3. Arizona (16,016)
4. Arkansas (17,667)
5. California (8,772)
6. Colorado (16,879)
7. Delaware (5,896)
8. Florida (21,129)
9. Georgia (25,57
10. Indiana (15,807)
11. Kansas (5,396)
12. Kentucky (14,596)
13. Louisiana (31.544)
14. Michigan (15,241)
15. Mississippi (14,432)
16. Missouri (15,036)
17. Montana (10,856)
18. Nebraska (4,469)
19. Nevada (7,677)
20. New Jersey (11,299)
21. New York (6,110)
22. North Carolina (23,715)
23. North Dakota (9,626)
24. Ohio (5,187)
25. Oklahoma 6,559)
26. Oregon (11,819)
27. Pennsylvania (5,499)
28. South Carolina (18,416)
29. South Dakota (4,046)
30. Tennessee (24,270)
31. Texas (88,913)
32. Utah (3,844)
33. West Virginia (4,660)
34. Wyoming (6,225)

Will the White House respond, or ignore the will of the people as it routinely does on the issues that matter most? One Florida resident is making national news; former Navy serviceman, Philip Hoezel, who turned his flag upside down in protest on Veterans Day.

While his neighbors berated him for the blasphemy, and for "hurting a lot of people's feelings;" as a Navy man he would know that the traditional significance of the upside-down flag is to indicate a ship in its final moments of severe distress before it sinks -- a ship of state, for instance. It is a form of peaceful protest that is increasing in numbers and is a statement as symbolic as these petitions.

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White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation

If Texas was not part of the U.S. all federal agents would have to be removed from the border and Texas would have to pay for all of it's own border protection.

States that withdraw from the union would no longer have the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force or Coast Guard to defend them. They would be on their own to defend against the invasion by Mexican cartels.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

If Texas was not part of the U.S. all federal agents would have to be removed from the border and Texas would have to pay for all of it's own border protection.

States that withdraw from the union would no longer have the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force or Coast Guard to defend them. They would be on their own to defend against the invasion by Mexican cartels.

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This is not true. If Texas seceded from the Union, every single asset of the Texas National Guard would then belong to Texas TO DEFEND IT'S SOVEREIGN BORDER from invasion.

Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME

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This is not true. If Texas seceded from the Union, every single asset of the Texas National Guard would then belong to Texas TO DEFEND IT'S SOVEREIGN BORDER from invasion.

The TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD is NOT on the list of groups that would not be available to defend Texas.

States that withdraw from the union would no longer have the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force or Coast Guard to defend them. They would be on their own to defend against the invasion by Mexican cartels.

The National Guard would be free to do as they please.