Thread: 50 killed in shooting at Florida nightclub in possible act of Islamic terror

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Judy wrote:

I have no problem with people being able to buy guns if they are on a terror watch list.

You clearly didn't mean that or did you?

Originally Posted by joe s

Judy wrote:



You clearly didn't mean that or did you?

Actually I did. There's a reason Republicans voted against the bill that would have prevented such purchases and the reason is that there are all types of innocent Americans on No Fly and Terrorist Watch Lists. So the act of using violations of the 2nd Amendment to prevent a terrorist from buying weapons does nothing but violate the 2nd Amendment. The issue isn't whether this terrorist purchased his weapons to commit his crimes legally or purchased them illegally. The issue is that he used the purchase of weapons to commit an horrific crime.

I support the Republicans who stood up for the 2nd Amendment, who stood up for the innocents on No Fly and Terror Watch Lists.

Furthermore, this terrorist was no longer on a Terror Watch List. He had been investigated by the FBI at least 2 times, perhaps 3, and was determined to not be a terrorist and his name was removed from the Terror Watch List, the same as I'm sure thousands of other terrorists have been cleared from the list but remain terrorists nonetheless.

So, no, I don't want the basic fundamental rights of Americans to be impeded or diminished or threatened by the War on Terror. I'm against NSA Spying, I'm against any restrictions of the 2nd Amendment, I'm against the Patriot Act, I'm against most of what silly crap our government came up with to fight the War on Terror that infringes on the rights of Americans whether it be free speech, protests, 2nd Amendment, privacy or otherwise.

Terrorists win when our own government decides to attack our liberties and freedoms in the "War on Terror".

Instead of infringing upon the basic fundamental rights of Americans in the "War on Terror", the government should be banning terrorists from entering the country, banning Muslim immigration, banning all immigration for that matter to keep our country safe. Questionable people should be deported even if they've been given a green card. We should dispense with the green card and eliminate permanent immigration through Legal Permanent Resident permits called green cards.

Mateen is a terrorist because he was raised a terrorist by his father, who is a Taliban supporter, a wacko Muslimism Political Ideologue, craving for power in his home country, who in accordance with all the Taliban and most of the foreign Muslim creed of Shariah Law hates women, gays, blacks, western culture, and the United States. So why would our government import enemies of our country and give them Legal Permanent Resident Status to live and breed here? The same was true with the parents of the San Bernardino shooter, the Boston Marathon Bombers, and I'm sure if SOMEONE would actually investigate these people, their parents are all behind this. Of course they'll try to play innocent to save their own necks, but this is the fruit of their poison tree, and these people should not be in the United States to begin with.

This isn't about a religious test, this is a test of common sense. People whose values are different than ours should not be allowed into the United States as immigrants. They can come here on legitimate business visitor visas, they can come here as tourists on tourist visas, if they are diplomats of course they can come for diplomatic purposes, but they can not be issued green cards or long term work visas to live and operate within the United States.

I said this after 9-11. That was 15 years ago. We should have closed our borders then. We should have done a sweep of all these Taliban, Al Qaeda, Shariah Law, Jihad Wackos then and cleaned out the country of this mess, and if that meant all foreign Muslims, then they should have all been told to leave then. This does not apply to American Muslims who have been here for generations. This applies to the new wave of political Muslims from foreign countries who have moved here during the last 30 to 40 years. It's time for them to go back to their home countries. That's my opinion. It's not because of their religion, it's because of their political beliefs disguised as religion.

Furthermore, any foreign person here on a privilege permit who bad mouths the United States or the American People also needs to be deported or otherwise removed from the country and returned to their homeland.

It is not the burden of the American People to protect the rights of foreign nationals threatening our rights, it is the obligation of the American People to protect our own rights, by all means necessary, whatever it takes.

It's way past time everyone gets that straight.

Re-read the Preamble of the US Constitution. The entire purpose of this government is to serve, promote, defend, insure and secure the blessings of liberty for the people of the United States and our posterity. No one else. Just US. We don't owe anyone else a thing under the US Constitution. Never have and still don't.

Now get these people out of here.

What a rediculous response.

Is that because you didn't understand it or because you disagree with it?

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