Thread: 911 bush - an american tragedy

It was hard to watch "I cant secure the borders" Bush talk about terrorism and herosim. A public hanging of he and Dick Chaney to Clelebrate the 5th aniversery of 911 would have gone further in healing the nations phycie.

Once again the Call for independent 3 parties is more the reality. The elections are important and recalls and impeachments past due.

To all who have suffered from 911, this liberal has genuine empathy.

Johnny Rhino

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I don't think you'll ever see a successful third party, but it would be a welcome thing. Actually, you already have a three party system: liberal, conservative, and moderate. Then you have the lazy do-nothins in the elected posts. Is it a four party system?

A very powerful piece by Keith Olberman on MSNBC this evening is worth watching. He doesn't hole anything back.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CountD ... sh-911.wmv

Here is the transcript from Olberman's show...


And lastly tonight a Special Comment on why we are here. Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space.
And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.
And all the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and — as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul — two more in the Towers.
And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.
I belabor this to emphasize that, for me… this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.
And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft", or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here — is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante — and at worst, an idiot — whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.
However. Of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast — of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds… none of us could have predicted… this.
Five years later this space… is still empty.
Five years later there is no Memorial to the dead.
Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.
Five years later this country’s wound is still open.
Five years… later this country’s mass grave is still unmarked.
Five years later… this is still… just a background for a photo-op.
It is beyond shameful.
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At the dedication of the Gettysburg Memorial — barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field, Mr. Lincoln said "we can not dedicate - we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.
Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We can nto dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground." So we won’t.
Instead they bicker and buck-pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they’re doing — instead of doing any job at all.
Five years later, Mr. Bush… we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir — on these 16 empty acres, the terrorists… are clearly, still winning.
And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.
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And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation.
There is, its symbolism — of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.
The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it… was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.
Those who did not belong to his party — tabled that.
Those who doubted the mechanics of his election — ignored that.
Those who wondered of his qualifications — forgot that.
History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government, by its critics.
It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation’s wounds, but to take political advantage.
Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.
The President — and those around him — did that.
They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused; as appeasers; as those who, in the Vice President’s words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."
They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken… a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated Al-Qaeda as much as we did.
The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had ’something to do’ with 9/11, is "lying by implication."
The impolite phrase, is "impeachable offense."
Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space… and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.
Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.
Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible — for anything — in his own administration.
Yet what is happening this very night?
A mini-series, created, influenced — possibly financed by — the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.
The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.
How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death… after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections… how dare you or those around you… ever "spin" 9/11.
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Just as the terrorists have succeeded — are still succeeding — as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero…
So too have they succeeded, and are still succeeding — as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.
This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney’s continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.
And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."
In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm.
Suddenly his car — and only his car — starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man’s lights go on.
As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced.
An "alien" is shot — but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help.
The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials areseen, manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there’s no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it’s themselves."
And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight.
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men.
"For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own — for the children, and the children yet unborn."
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When those who dissent are told time and time again — as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus — that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American…
When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"… look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:
Who has left this hole in the ground?
We have not forgotten, Mr. President.
You have.
May this country forgive you.

How disrespectful to those who lost their lives not to secure the borders and enforce our immigration laws after 9-11. It is like a slap in the face to all Americans. How are we to take terrorism seriously when our own government will not even secure our borders or enforce our immigration laws? By not doing so they send the message that there is nothing to be concerned about, yet we are told there is. I would like to know exactly who the terrorist are, they are referred to as terrorist, evildoers,etc. I want a name, who are they, who are we to be afraid of? Talk of Hitler, Nazi's, tyranny, loss of freedoms is concerning at the least, are we to get use to such terms? If we are under terrorist threats then why are our borders wide open for anyone to enter? This sets the stage for alot of questions to form in Americans minds because the pieces are not fitting together. A major terrorist attack and then the borders are wide open with millions crossing into the country? Millions who have entered the country illegally go virtually unchecked? This makes no sense. You would think a country that had had a major terror attack would lock the borders down and enforce immigration while in fact the exact opposite has happened.

After the London bombings, the French closed their borders 4 days later.

After 9/11, the Americans did nothing to their borders, except reduce Border Patrol Agents.

We are in a period of Ironies and Opposites. Nothing is as it should be, because is what it seems to be.

Our "leader" says he cares about our nation and our people. But his actions prove otherwise.

Our "leader" says a lot of things, but unfortunately, talk is cheap and an easy tool to deceive.

10 Cheers to Olbermann...what a magnificent statement he made tonight.

Thanks for posting it Cindy.

So Olberman is calling for Impeachment.

A wise, good and brave Patriot.

They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken… a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated Al-Qaeda as much as we did.
The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had ’something to do’ with 9/11, is "lying by implication."
The impolite phrase, is "impeachable offense."

There have been no fewer or less serious lies than those about our border security or the deliberate failure to enforce US Immigration Law.

With Bush + Cheyne in power I don't believe any gains we achieve about illegal immigration will be consolidated.
As soon as the Republicans get confirm, as a majority party in Congress , after the november election, he will start pressuring again for his objectives,open borders North America Union, exportation of our jobs, GLOBALIZATION .
Before any election he shows his patriotic disguise, after the election he assumes his real personality A TRAITOR
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I'm glad that Oberman dislikes Bush, but so what? Oberman is for amnesty. We can't impeach Bush and if we did what would it accomplish. Our politicians are not going to secure the border anytime soon or in any meaningful way. Hell Tony Snow is now saying the border is secure and we need to work on a path for legalization. How effing stupid does he think we are!!
The best thing that could happen for us is gridlock. If we lose the Senate(we really never had it) but not the house then nothing gets done and Bush is a lame duck.

Right On Minnie!!

Which is why I feel so strongly that when appropriate and as often as possible, we should call for the Impeachment of the Traitors.

Not to distract in anyway from our illegal immigration mission, but to ensure the results we seek and achieve are actually implemented and executed.

I've called for Double Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney for their numerous impeachable offenses.

It takes 15 minutes...for the US Congress to Vote...on a Double Impeachment Resolution....and End This Nightmare for the American People.

This would make Dennis Hastert President of the United States to finish the term of George Bush. Hastert is the chosen leader of the US House of Representatives and as Speaker of the House would by our Constitutional Succession Line become President.

Impeachment occurs in the US House of Representatives.

They would be throwing out these despicable Traitors and putting in the White House their own leader which makes him our leader.

Politically....it's very simple.

No sane Republican would vote against the Resolution.

No sane Democrat would vote against the Resolution.

It's the only sane thing to do to end this Insanity.