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    Exclamation All States should start doing this

    Since the AG and the Supreme Court have now ratified that Border protection is a Federal Responsibility then All states should start BILLING them for the costs that Illegal Aliens have created in each state in the country! Lets start a new trend! If the Feds say they OWN it, then lets make them pay for that ownership!

    Indiana's budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

    Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana's illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

    Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

    Indiana's law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana's law also is being challenged in court.

    Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state's illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

    Link :Indiana sends Congress tab for illegal immigration | 2012-06-29 | Indianapolis Business Journal | IBJ.com
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    Cities, counties and states have sent bills to the federal government,

    but they can't make them pay.

    EXAMPLES:

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/san-bernard...-funds-260175/

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/capps-fight...rogram-260294/
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    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Cities, counties and states have sent bills to the federal government,

    but they can't make them pay.

    EXAMPLES:

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/san-bernard...-funds-260175/

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/capps-fight...rogram-260294/
    Then pass a Bill that Mandates that they pay. Or bring suit agains the Feds by the states! A united effort by states could be a big win! Remember, it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! ALL THE TIME....

    From the other post here I personally know Tim D. from our border group in CA, if states got to gether and did this PUBLICALLY as an embarrassment to the administration, that htey have broken another promise.
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    well as I said befor this is all obama doing & you know this . & as for all of you illegaL immigrant you all
    know you can not vote . & he only want you in Our country for your vote you are Not a usa Citzien at all
    so don't be a fool . in my book he is not fit to be Our President at all . if gov jan or joe run then I said yes
    they are for the USA
    No amensty Or dream act

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    Cities , counties and states can't make the federal government do anything because federal law takes presedence over state, county and city laws.

    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia

    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Cities , counties and states can't make the federal government do anything because federal law takes presedence over state, county and city laws.

    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia

    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts.
    Then SUE the Federal Government!

    Not only can states sue the Federal government, if enough of them agree (3 the states could abolish the Federal government and create a new government to replace it.

    The Federal government can exist only with the "consent" of the states.

    That consent was given through the Constitution by ratification of the Constitution by the states and that consent can be taken away by amendment to the Constitution by the states who have full authority over the Charter and the states can amend it without consent from the Federal government.
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    It would be great if the federal government would pay for all of the illegal aliens in every city, county and state jail and prison, and all of the other expenses for ALL illegal aliens too.

    BUT

    The federal government is many TRILLIONS of dollars in debt, and people are yelling for the goverment to stop spending, so where would the federal government get the money to pay for all of this spending?

    The only money any govrnment has is that which it takes from people as taxes, fines and fees.

    If they raise taxes, fines and fees it all comes from THE PEOPLE.

    A new government would still have to get all of the money from the people.
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    We all know that the government spends way way to much for anything it wants, cut some of the waste in programs, Cut down the EPA, the IRS, and a bunch of the Foriegn Aid just to start them pay the states. Giving in is NOT an option. Throwing up our arms and saying it can't be done is not an option. If the will of the people want it enough we can elect those who feel the same and make a change.
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    We should be careful with this one. If we can force the feds to pay for illegal immigrants and the problems they cost the states, then states might be able to force the government to pay for illegals as aid for illegals too. States should be able to expect the feds to help them with the cost of illegal immigration but only if the states can prove they are enforcing the law against illegal immigrants and especially if the states themselves can show laws against illegal immigration.

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