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    American Experience Working In Mexico-Must Read

    For anyone thinking we are being too hard on our illegals,


    JUST READ THIS!!!

    American working in Mexico

    From the other side of the fence...

    Received the following from Tom O'Malley, who was a Director with S.W. BELL in Mexico City:

    "I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.

    "During that six months our Mexican and U.S. attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a 'FM3'. It was in addition to my U.S. passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same, except hers did not permit her to work.

    "To apply for the FM3, I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies):
    1. Birth certificate for Barbara and me.
    2. Marriage certificate.
    3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
    4. College transcripts for every college I attended and
    proof of graduation.
    5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had
    worked for at least one year.
    6. A letter from the St. Louis Chief of Police indicating
    that I had no arrest record in the U.S. and no outstanding
    warrants and, was "a citizen in good standing".
    7. "Finally, I had to write a letter about myself
    that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with
    my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We
    called it our 'I am the greatest person on Earth'
    letter. It was fun to write."

    "All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal
    translations, and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side & Spanish on the right."

    "Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours, accompanied by a Mexican attorney, touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times at each location, and we remember at least four locations where we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could
    legally bring in our household goods that were held by U.S. Customs in Laredo, Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid."

    "We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law."

    "We were required to get a Mexican driver's license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged
    for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and fingerprint equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our U.S. license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction
    was to never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back. "

    "We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The company's Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. It was about twenty legal size pages annually."

    "The FM3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees."

    "Leaving the country meant turning in the FM3 and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no
    outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs."

    "It was a real adventure and if any of our Senators or Congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico."

    "The Mexican government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and
    compliant. They never protest at their capitol or government offices, but do protest daily in front of the
    United States Embassy. The U.S. Embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican military surrounds the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on U.S. or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas."

    Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are cruel racist because we insist foreigners comply with our immigration laws like Mexico and all other countries require of us !

    Why won't our government enforce the immigration laws on our side of the border ???????

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    because Mexico trully wants to perform a national identity...america
    is diffrent then mexico. it believes in capitalism, money, profits.

    change that my friend and u might get the america u want...if u want to turn like mexico...a xenophobic society, government making sure that everything is control by mexicans be my guest.
    america wont be the foreing investment attraction it is.

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    This needs to go on the front page here... Thanks for taking the time to write...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iturbide1981
    because Mexico trully wants to perform a national identity...america
    is diffrent then mexico. it believes in capitalism, money, profits.

    change that my friend and u might get the america u want...if u want to turn like mexico...a xenophobic society, government making sure that everything is control by mexicans be my guest.
    america wont be the foreing investment attraction it is.
    No, what Mexico doesn't want is 40 million unemployed Mexicans coming back to their country and sucking on their welfare system.

    Mexico claims they are a country of 120 million, 100 million in Mexico, and 20 million in the US. They know that if the 20 million illegals head back to Mexico because of tough new US immigration policies another 20-30 million will be with them as they will be taking their wives and anchor babies with them.

    They would much prefer we pay for their citizens so yes, the Mexican President is very supportive to see that the US has an open border policy.

    Don't you find it ironic that he critizes our immigration policies yet they have immigration policies that make ours look like candyland which they currently are.

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    What I have found is that when you go to foreign countries, even the so-called "poor" ones, nearly everyone is a shrewd businessperson just eager to get their hands on American dollars. They've got scams and rackets galore. Fortunately they are usually fairly small ones or you wouldn't even come back alive. They do nothing to restrain the bad guys in this world, they constantly complain about what the US should be doing for them. They are irresponsible about morality and family matters. I'm just totally sick of it.
    "Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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    Quote Originally Posted by iturbide1981
    because Mexico trully wants to perform a national identity...america
    is diffrent then mexico. it believes in capitalism, money, profits.

    change that my friend and u might get the america u want...if u want to turn like mexico...a xenophobic society, government making sure that everything is control by mexicans be my guest.
    america wont be the foreing investment attraction it is.
    I have NO problem with Mexican style laws applied to Mexican nationals living here in the USA.
    StarshipTrooper<div>
    </div><div>Things happen for a reason.</div>

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    When we want jobs and capital to go to Americans first and to provide a secure future for Americans, we are called nativists, as if that is something bad. Americans have been made to feel bad for wanting to protect their culture and their children's futures, and are falling victim to these hoaxes.

    Whenever I hear the term xenophobic, when many more than 20 million illegals are here doing low paying jobs, undermining our wage structure for American citizens, and having far more children than the American citizens supporting them with public benefits and free health care, I automatically assume that the person who says that is a traitor. When I see at least a million legal immigrants brought in from other countries to undermine our salaries and destroy American citizens' ability to have a valuable job after graduation from college, and we are called names for objecting to these practices, I see a traitor behind those names.

    When I see illegals in college getting free or low cost classes, and protesting for the DREAM act because they have not received enough free benefits, many of whom major in Chicano studies which teach them to hate American citizens of all colors, when our American students are in debt and have no jobs to aspire to, I see a traitor.

    Xenophobic I am? No, anyone who calls me that is practicing treason to undermine our society, culture and values. No one is illustrating the problem with our young black Americans, who have been impacted more than anyone else and even run out of their neighborhoods when they become occupied by a majority of illegals. No one speaks from them, and if you call an American citizen who opposes illegal aliens xenophobic, you are a racist.

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