Thread: HR 1913 bill could shut down Alipac, etc!

This is the 'hate speech bill' that we really need to call on, as it could shut down talk about illegal aliens, among other issues. Orwell is spinning in his grave.


http://www.rense.com/general85/hatedbb.htm



If there is one thing Rep. John Conyers did not want, it was premature news that his extremely dangerous new federal hate crimes bill (HR 1913) had been entered into the House Judiciary. A milder, shortened version (HR 256) was introduced in early January to take any flak against hate crimes legislation. The much more threatening version, HR 1913, contains all that is necessary to establish a hate crimes bureaucracy in America. Shielded as long as possible, it has 42 co-sponsors and is a polished weapon for destroying free speech. Conyers wanted to stealthily introduce it just before spring recess of Congress last Thursday-to be rapidly pushed to victory when members of Congress return April 20.

Dishonest legislators avoid introducing alarming legislation amid the floodlights surrounding the beginning of a new session of Congress. They wait until the last minutes of a session, just as the lights are just being turned off! This happened in Canada in 1971 when their federal hate law was passed as MPs were literally departing for Christmas vacation.

Conyers must have been delighted at the lack of opposition from the mainstream religious right since early January. He knows most Christian "watchdog" groups won't act until the final bill, with title and bill number, is established. This was the situation last week: virtually all such opponents were silent. Our NPN poll showed protest calls to Judiciary members down to a dismal average of one per day!

But on Wednesday my e-alert warned "<http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/conyersintroducingnewhatebill.htm>Conyers Introducing New Hate Bill!" Its effect was electric. The next day, Republican offices reported receiving "many calls" objecting to Conyers' new hate bill. Already Conyers' cherished legal weapon was being splattered with mud by the conservative right!

Throughout Thursday, Conyers must have had second thoughts about introducing his hate bill. Perhaps he thought to minimize the damage by not giving the hate bill a name and number. Even at 5:30 EST Thursday evening, a spokesman for Judiciary said Conyers might not enter it until April 20.

But on Friday morning, there it was: HR 1913, The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Although not yet posted on the government website, this new bill is undoubtedly identical to HR 1592 which passed the House in 2007.

Watchdogs Begin to Bark

Meanwhile, the religious right was beginning to awaken. Through my Wednesday article, discovery of the lurking hate bill was trumpeted all over the internet. Responding to my encouragement, many called those groups I had listed within "The Hate Bill Hall of Shame," asking why they were doing nothing. Result: Some leadership groups scrambled into action.


· Late Thursday night, WorldNetDaily published a strong article announcing Conyers' hate bill. WND also links <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93787>to a short but powerful video critical of hate laws, a recording of Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) speaking on the floor of the House in 2007. Gohmert, one of the feistiest hate bill enemies in the House Judiciary, is (like most Judiciary Republicans) vowing a bitter fight against the hate bills. Just like two years ago, they are powerfully energized by calls of protest and deeply grateful for them. They agree with NPN that the only sensible place to defeat the hate bills is in Judiciary, not the floor of the House.

· Although the spokeswoman for the California branch of Traditional Values Coalition told my research assistant Friday that she "didn't even know there was a hate bill in Congress until yesterday," TVC quickly posted an excellent, stiff call to action against the bill.

· On Friday, Concerned Women for America featured a gripping radio interview with a Canadian Christian describing how free speech has become extinct in Canada. While mentioning that there is a hate bill in Congress, they gave no details concerning the present threat from Conyers' bill.

· WorldNetDaily's article says "Tony Perkins of FRC was also busy alerting his constituents" to the threat of Conyers' bill. How that is happening is unclear since as of Sunday, April 5, FRC's homepage still has no alert posted.

Our Battle Strategy

Over this weekend, the homepages of most large conservative groups (except TVC) remain barren of any warning. But expect that to rapidly change. Conyers' evil hate bill is important news to the evangelical right. Every new right watchdog must be seen by their followers as taking action.



Hate Bill HR 1913 NOW! Call toll-free 1-877-851-6437 or toll 1-202-225-3121.â€

I just sent this to all MSM stations, we will just see who gets on top of this!!!

Conyers is another one who needs to be thrown out....these meant to be stealth bills is just another reasons for the tea partys and why Americans are fed up!!

I googled the bill and many of the recent entries were about or from David Duke, the grand poobah of the KKK. That alone makes me worry about what the bill really says. I seriously doubt that Duke has had an epiphany and abandoned his racism--he is just trying to sell his books.

Why do we have to have laws to tell us what we can say and who makes the decision on what is HATE speech. I thiink most people, who are sociallay attuned, know what adn when to say things. I also think you learn as you get older. I can remeber when I was in the 7th grade we called everyone that was mentally retarded, spaz. I went over to a firends house, was joking around and called her a spaz. Her mother jumped all over me because my firend had a mentally retarded sister. I did not realize that my words were offensive to her, now I am more sensative. People who are not sensative to these situations are going to talk that way wether or not there is a law. Why does the FEDERAL government feel the need to pass social laws? They have no constitutional right to do so.

I googled and got the above website, along with David Duke, and then 3 THOUSAND other websites opposing this bill!! Duke is only the first 2 from google

try it:

federal hate crimes bill (HR 1913)

Duke also has Pat Buchanan on his website, is that also an offence to you? If the bill is not real, then tell us so, if it is, then why are you siding with illegals?

It is also mentioned on VDARE.com, who is one of the few websites to stand against the SPLC and 'those' types of organizations.

Emailing the MSM only does good when thousands of people do it at a time for the same cause. To my knowledge, NO ONE has invited me or anyone else to JOIN a mailing list.

Vortex what is scary is that the KKK is possibly trying to reorganize as there have been alot of talk about it. In the Sun-Sentinel there was a front page article for 2 days on how KKK calling cards were dropped off in a Davie restaurant. Davie, Fl is a city with a KKK history which still supposedly has secret meetings. The article commented on what the cards say but there was never a picture of one shown so that makes me skeptical. They could have blacked out the phone number.

The KKK has nothing to do with this bill, and David Duke is against illegal immigration also. The KKK has no political power, LA-Raza does.

You people need to stop diverting attention from this, trolling this forum does no one any good, except illegal aliens. Give it a break.

swatchick and Arizonablues, I only worry about what the support of what I call a nutcase--David Duke--could do to attempts to defeat this bill before it gets to the floor for vote. It seems these days, while those with the best of intentions are not lying with dogs, they still are getting fleas.

Originally Posted by vortex

swatchick and Arizonablues, I only worry about what the support of what I call a nutcase--David Duke--could do to attempts to defeat this bill before it gets to the floor for vote. It seems these days, while those with the best of intentions are not lying with dogs, they still are getting fleas.

They go out of their way to tie idiots like David Duke to bills like that for precisely that reason.

Sorry, but even though I utterly detest what Duke says, I'll fight for his right to say it.

Oh Ab, quit being silly. I am not threatening you or your beliefs, and FYI, I am not trolling on behalf of illegals, so you get a grip.
There is a difference between rational discussion and emotional outpouring. I prefer rational discussion myself.