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    Arizona-Style Immigration Law Could Lead to Profiling

    Indiana House Speaker Brian Bosma Says Proposed Arizona-Style Immigration Law Could Lead to Profiling

    Published April 10, 2011

    Indiana House Speaker Brian Bosma says that a proposed Arizona-style immigration measure may lead to profiling.

    Indiana's Republican House speaker says he is concerned that a legislative proposal modeled on the controversial Arizona law that targets illegal immigration will lead to profiling.

    Speaker Brian Bosma said that House leaders were talking with business leaders and looking closely at the bill approved by the Senate and awaiting action by the House.

    That bill contains tax penalties for businesses that hire illegal immigrants and allows police officers to seek proof of immigration status if they have a reasonable suspicion a person is in the country illegally.

    Bosma said he was uncomfortable with the prospect of foreign citizens in the state on work or education visas being frequently questioned.

    "Putting these individuals in a position, having not committed any other crime, of having to prove their legal residency here has given many folks concern," Bosma told reporters. "We have to find a way to deal with the issue that does not give individuals who are here legally very strong third-class residency."

    The Indiana Chamber of Commerce has said it worries the bill would hurt the state's business climate, and Indianapolis-based drugmaker Eli Lilly and Co. has raised concerns about possible damage to its ability to attract top workers.

    Bill sponsor Sen. Mike Delph, R-Carmel, said he's supporting changes to the proposal but that it would still be "tough but fair."

    "This doesn't hurt law-abiding businesses or citizens in the least," Delph said. "People who support following the law shouldn't have any problem with what we're trying to do."

    Delph said a proposed amendment to the bill would:

    -- remove the authority for police officers to verify the citizenship or immigration status of those stopped for other reasons.

    -- eliminate a requirement that the state police negotiate an agreement with federal authorities so that troopers could enforce immigration laws. Delph said that was being removed because of its possible $5 million cost.

    -- restore a requirement that the state calculate the costs of illegal immigration and seek reimbursement from Congress.

    The bill, which the Senate approved in February by a 31-18 vote, requires most government documents and meetings to be only in English, but the amendment would specify that other languages could be used in public school classes if the student is enrolled in a class to learn English.

    Delph said he wanted to have tougher penalties on businesses that knowingly hire illegal immigrants, but that he was compromising to win passage of the law.

    "People are going to support illegal immigration and they justify it or they support American sovereignty and they want to crack down on illegal immigration," he said. "There's no way really to hedge on that."

    Bosma said he shared frustrations over the federal government not dealing effectively with illegal immigration and believed the crackdown bill would be considered by a House committee, which might take up the changes Delph has proposed.

    "There's no deal on this," Bosma said. "People are looking at a lot of different solutions."

    This is based on a story by The Associated Press.

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    Immigration Law Could Lead to Profiling
    This is one worn out argument and insults the intelligence of of US citizens that sick of the PC political spin and are raising the BS flag and saying "oh that crap again" JMO
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    Bosma you sale out piece of crap! Is this a RINO?
    http://www.in.gov/cgi-bin/legislative/c ... ?data=h088

    Notice how he keeps saying families from all walks of life!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1R7mmrt ... re=related
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    stevetheroofer wrote,
    Bosma you sale out piece of crap! Is this a RINO?
    He sure as heck does not sound like much of a Republican committed to the rule of law.

    -- restore a requirement that the state calculate the costs of illegal immigration and seek reimbursement from Congress.
    While at face value this looks great, without a tough stance at the state level, ie tough crackdown and enforcement of immigration laws, would this not just be a circular arguement, ie, placing burden upon tax payers across the country to pay for the lack of enforcement at the state level? Just more subsidies being laundered at the federal level?

    I understand if the feds did their job this would be a safeguard for the states, but it seems both states and feds need to enforce the laws, otherwise the burden is just masked by shifting costs?

    Should the feds continue to ignore or neglect their responsibilities and the states just keep turning a blind eye, yet billing the feds, then the tax payer still loses.

    Given the manner in which the feds cannot, or will not balance a budget, and have an insatiable appetitie for more and more money, It leaves one with little faith in these scumbags posing as politicians. JMO

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    Bosma said he was uncomfortable with the prospect of foreign citizens in the state on work or education visas being frequently questioned.
    If they keep out of trouble, the police won't need to ask for proof now would they?

    How are documents racially profiled, hmm? You either have them or you don't. That's it, no gray areas. If you can't proof your legal status in the US, you need to be arrested, processed and deported. If you get caught again, jail and then deported. You can't earn money for your family or pay your smugglers while in jail.
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    Indiana House Speaker Brian Bosma Says Proposed Arizona-Style Immigration Law Could Lead to Profiling
    I am just sick and tired of this shit
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    Its NOT profiling. Its enforcing the law. If your here legally then you don't have to worry. If your illegal then you already realize that your facing deportation. Illegal means your a CRIMINAL. You broke the law. You deserve punishment and thats deportation. Arizona laws allow enforcement of immigration laws. Every state needs these laws onthe books and they need to be enforced to the utmost to rid our communities of those who have broken the law, are here illegally, engage in criminal activity including gang activity, drug distribution, prostitution (I know...its legal in mexico), Id theft and ID fraud.

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    You are SO right Bill.

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    the chances of racial profiling in Arizona are 50-50 because just slightly more than 50 percent of all peace officers in the state just so happen to be...


    *gasp* hispanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattyk
    You are SO right Bill.
    "We need to put up billboards of your Avatar on the border!"
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