Thread: Arnold want to take care of unemployed illegals

Arnold want to give assistance to illegals who have lost work becaue of frozen citrus in Calif. Housing, food, etc.
Don't we have poor unemployed on the streets that we are not caring for?
Does anyone have the story heard on Foxnews this morning?

Citrus freeze leaves thousands jobless


By GARANCE BURKE, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jan 18, 12:23 AM ET

SANGER, Calif. - The deep freeze that has destroyed some $1 billion worth of California citrus could also mean months of unemployment for thousands of farmworkers, packers and truck drivers during what is already a lean season for those who work in agriculture, industry officials say.

The bad news was already trickling in Wednesday at Harris Farms, a 7,000-acre operation about 25 miles east of Fresno.

"All of my sisters-in-law, my mother-in-law and my brother-in-law just got laid off from the packing sheds," said Valentino Mexicano, a ranch hand whose family of five lives in nearby Sanger. He and other members of the farm's night crew were just getting off a 15-hour shift monitoring miles of orange and lemon trees.

"It's bad," he said. "People are just going to be looking for little jobs to survive because the bills won't wait."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said the state would offer assistance to all affected laborers, regardless of their immigration status.

"Everyone will get help," he said Tuesday. "We are not here collecting immigration statuses."

The governor's press secretary, Aaron McLear, elaborated on Schwarzenegger's comment Wednesday, saying the promised assistance for illegal immigrants included food programs, temporary housing, low-income energy assistance and other social services — but not unemployment insurance.

McLear said state agencies were working with community organizations to deliver many services, and those groups likely would be in charge of determining what kind of documentation, if any, workers would need.

Applicants must prove they can work legally in the United States to qualify for state unemployment insurance or federal disaster unemployment assistance, said Jehan Flagg, a spokeswoman for the California Labor & Workforce Development Agency.

Some 12,500 workers are directly employed in the citrus industry in California's San Joaquin Valley, and hundreds more truckers carry the fruit to docks to be shipped around the world. It's unclear how many of those farmworkers are illegal immigrants, who traditionally make up a large percentage of the valley's agricultural labor force and are ineligible for many forms of government assistance.

In winter months, the citrus industry provides thousands of jobs in Fresno County, which employs more farmworkers than any other California county, according to federal statistics. But even during a normal year, about 40 percent of farmworkers in the county risk going hungry during the winter, according to the California Institute for Rural Studies.

"For many farmworkers, working in citrus provides the money needed to pay rent and buy food," said Marc Grossman, spokesman for the United Farmworkers of America. "You could find a job at a packing shed, but if you're not harvesting you're not packing either, there are really very few options."

Schwarzenegger has asked the federal government for disaster aid following a string of subfreezing nights in the Central Valley's orange, lemon, lime and grapefruit groves.

Workers displaced by the freeze can apply for state unemployment insurance, which pays up to $450 per week for 26 weeks over a one-year period, Flagg said.

If President Bush approves Schwarzenegger's request and declares a state of emergency, those affected by the freeze could qualify for additional federal unemployment aid.

Mexicano's job is safe because Harris Farms employs its 20 full-time workers year-round to prune grape and olive trees, repair machinery and round up cattle that escape from grazing grounds in the Sierra Nevada foothills, Manager Rod Radtke said. But in nearby Woodlake, the freeze has already forced Sun Pacific Shippers Inc. to lay off its entire staff of 70 citrus packers, graders and shippers.

"It's not like a hurricane that damages material things, but the freeze damages people's livelihood," said manager Frank Martinez. "With this going on there's no hope. Unemployment just isn't enough for people to keep up with their utilities and their mortgage payments."

Joel Nelsen, who heads the 2,000-member trade organization California Citrus Mutual, said he expects many citrus workers will look for odd jobs to make it through the winter. But under current law, workers can only earn up to $25 a week before their unemployment benefits are reduced.

Republican state Sen. Abel Maldonado said he plans to introduce a bill that would give California's farmworkers the chance to earn up to $200 a week without having their unemployment benefits cut.

At Harris Farms, where ice crystals hung from rows of navel orange trees, this year's harvest will last only through April, instead of September, Radtke said.

About 70 percent of the citrus crop was damaged since the freeze began Friday, and the company will likely contract for fewer pickers to harvest the undamaged fruit, Radtke said.

Shippers in the San Joaquin Valley said Wednesday it was too soon to tell how the losses would impact their business, but said the outlook wasn't good.

The trucking industry won't be able to gauge the hit from the freeze for another week, when truckers will start to get a sense of the demand for their loads, said Julie Sauls, a spokeswoman for the California Trucking Association.

"We do expect products to become short and more expensive," said Chuck Aiello, a buyer with FreshKo Produce Service, a Fresno-based wholesale citrus distributor. "It'll be inevitable that our company to feel it. Everyone will."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070118/ap_ ... s_disaster

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01 ... _17_07.txt

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0701 ... disaster_1

As long as its not his money he doesn't have a thing to lose ,plus he gets brownie points for giving tax money to citizens of mexico .

They are blowing a great opportunity to get these ILLEGALS out of the
country! IDIOTS all!

Skip wrote on January 17, 2007 9:53 PM:"The governor's press secretary, Aaron McLear, elaborated on Schwarzenegger's comment Wednesday, saying the promised assistance for illegal immigrants included food programs, temporary housing, low-income energy assistance and other social services — but not unemployment insurance. "

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01 ... _17_07.txt

Citrus freeze leaves thousands out of work

Workers displaced by the freeze can apply for state unemployment insurance, which pays up to US$450 per week for 26 weeks over a one-year period, said Jehan Flagg, a spokeswoman for the California Labor & Workforce Development Agency.

Does this include illegal immigrants? If so, how can the state justify doing this legally. Anyone with half a brain can see giving illegals unemployment insurance is aiding and abetting.

Schwarzenegger said the state would offer unemployment benefits to all affected labourers, no matter their immigration status. "Everyone will get help," he said. "We are not here collecting immigration statuses."

Does that help include unemployment insurance for illegals, Arnold? Boy, Arnold played the voting public like a fiddle during the elections! Of course I guess the alternative to Arnold was even worse.

I hope Arnolds latest exploits cause a rain of anger to fall on his big fat head from California voters.

Question, exactly how does an illegal apply for unemployment insurance without their illegal status becoming known? Such a taxpayer funded giveaway would require an in-depth application process. Doe Arnold the Joker even think before he opens his fat mouth?

Originally Posted by reform_now

They are blowing a great opportunity to get these ILLEGALS out of the
country! IDIOTS all!

I agree 100%, The only discussion now should be about how they are going to get the illegals in California out of the country. If Arnold wants to spend some taxpayer money the only thing he should be allowed to do is hire the buses to get them to the border and then get Mexico to pay him back for the transport.
I can't feel sorry for the farmers anymore. Many farmers have sold out to illegal labor and they can afford to pay a good wage to an American. They always have the same excuse that they can't find Americans to do the job. I don't believe that! they just want to pocket as much money as possible. People think that farmers are all poor but you'd be surprised how much some of them make. They are in business just like everyone else and they get $500,000 30 year loans @ 1% for thirty years. A guy out in Georgia used the money to build homes for the illegals right on the farm.

http://www.govmail.ca.gov/

Above is a link to tell him how you feel.

Here's the kind of children these illegals have:

http://api.cde.ca.gov/APIBase2006/2006G ... 65-0108092

What is going on with this A-hole? I guess living with all the ultra liberal Kennedys has finally washed off on him. I think the man ran as a conservative strictly because at the time that was what was needed in CA, now the gloves are off, he is showing his true colors, he is a total idiot, thank God we have the law stating he cannot run for President because of his not being born here!I am really surprised we still have that law on the records!

nittygritty wrote:

thank God we have the law stating he cannot run for President because of his not being born here!I am really surprised we still have that law on the records!

Shhhhh, not so loud nitty, we don't want to give our boys and girls on the Hill any ideas.