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    AZ not usurping federal power, but big lie continues. WHY?

    SEE: SB 1070 Hearing in Phoenix today


    Salgado's attorneys argue the judge should block the law before it takes effect because it would require the officer to use race as a primary factor in enforcing the law and because the state law is trumped by federal immigration law.


    We are continually told by our big media that Arizona’s SB-1070 law is usurping the federal government’s exclusive authority over immigration. But our big media, including FOXNEWS, never points to that part of our Constitution which grants an exclusive power to Congress over immigration. And, it never does so because the word “immigrationâ€

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    BECAUSE

    BECAUSE The Federal Government is UNABLE to enforce our immigration laws and is unable to secure the border by itself (or refuses to) states most certainly SHOULD have the right to assist in enforcement.

    If the Federal Govt cant defend the people the states must pick up the slack.

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    Re: BECAUSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Tbow009
    BECAUSE The Federal Government is UNABLE to enforce our immigration laws and is unable to secure the border by itself (or refuses to) states most certainly SHOULD have the right to assist in enforcement.

    If the Federal Govt cant defend the people the states must pick up the slack.
    Please let me emphasize this situation is not about AZ assisting the federal government. This is about Arizona exercising its sovereign policing powers within its borders for the protection and general welfare of its citizens. Our domestic enemies are arguing a constitutional issue that does not exist!

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    In a nutshell, the people of these various states should without delay insist upon their respective states to perform their constitutional duty and enforce the laws that the states are required to uphold. To look to the federal government to do what the states are bound to do under the Constitution is nothing less than a transference of power that is not even legal.

    The MSM, combined with nefarious forces, money interests, and an educational campaign that has dumbed down the citizens, or has perverted the understanding of our Constitution and our respective history has to a large extent succeeded in pulling the wool over the eyes of Americans to the point that they have been demanding that the Feds do a job that is not theirs to do, thus gaining in undeserved and dangerous powers never intended for such fools and traitors. The focus of the American citizen has been diverted in a direction of the fool's folly.



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    JWK the brilliance and foresite of our founding fathers never ceases to amaze me.

    I believe those who are suing AZ are suing every citizen of the USA including our own Government whose salaries WE pay plus they are using taxpayer money to sue the taxpayers. Maddening !!!!

    The really sad part is there is no doubt they know they are wrong yet they are stirring the pot,hoping some liberal far left judge will rewrite our constitution from the bench.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    Why is it that our “conservativeâ€

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    Johnwk wrote,
    [quote]Why is it that our “conservativeâ€

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    [quote="roundabout"]Johnwk wrote,
    [quote]Why is it that our “conservativeâ€

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    For today's demonstrating, demanding, thieving lifetime lifestyle illegal aliens, the LIE is their mantra, which is the knee jerk reaction of ALL CRIMINALS.

    That is why illegal aliens belong in the shadows, because that is where all criminals belong - and they know it down deep in the soul that they are destroying within themselves.

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    A major problem is, today’s lawyers have not been taught to study the founding of our nation and its legislative history as found in Madison‘s notes on the Convention, the Federalists and Anti Federalist papers, Elliot‘s debates (state ratification debates) and the first few secessions of Congress during which time many of our founding fathers were in attendance. Today’s lawyers have been taught by progressive professors to study case law under which our constitution has been slowly re-written by progressive and activist judges.

    I have presented some of the pertinent historical documentation at the top of the thread just to show the true intent and meaning of founding fathers.

    In addition see Article 1, Section 9.

    The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.


    Immigration and naturalization are two distinct powers. Migration or immigration is the movement of people from one place to another while naturalization is the act by which an alien becomes a citizen, and, the regulation over immigration within a State's borders is a power originally exercised by the States and never relinquished to Congress, while the power over naturalization has been granted to Congress.


    JWK

    [b][i]“The fundamental principle of constitutional construction is that effect must be given to the intent of the framers of the organic law and of the people adopting it. This is the polestar in the construction of constitutions, all other principles of construction are only rules or guides to aid in the determination of the intention of the constitution’s framers.â€

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