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Boehner: Far right has lost credibility, what?

Posted by Bill Bissell, Admin II on December 12, 2013 at 2:47pm in Patriot Action Alerts
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Where does John Boehner get off saying we lost our credibility?



He also states he has never violated his conservative principles. If that were true wouldn't he have resisted Obama and Harry Reid harder then he during the budget battles ? The government might still be shut down. How does explain his constituents thoughts during the shut down episode.



Folks is John really on our side, or is he following the orders of some one else in the shadows?

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A Democratic budget dressed in RINO red

Posted on December 12, 2013 by Diane Sori

“In divided government, you don’t always get what you want,” said Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee and co-author of the new bi-partisan budget deal.

Reaching a deal a month before the January 15th deadline when existing funding to operate many federal programs runs out, the Paul Ryan/Patty Murray bi-partisan $85 billion budget accord in a word ‘stinks.’ And it ‘stinks’ big time for this deal removes spending constraints and cuts which when announced brought a smile to Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s face as he urged Congress to hurry up and pass it…and that in and of itself should tell you just how bad this deal really is.

And while I believe Paul Ryan, in his heart, did NOT want Republicans to be blamed for yet another messy government shutdown as we head into the 2014 mid-term elections, this deal was still a sell-out…sort of the budget equivalent of the deal we just gave Iran as Ryan…channeling his inner John Kerry…willfully put aside our conservative fiscal core beliefs getting ‘We the People’ nothing in return except avoiding the looming January 15th government shutdown that actually should NOT be avoided but welcomed…for this Obama government simply does NOT work

And as expected, this deal was heralded by House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor. But it still rightly faces a challenge from true Conservative Republicans and TEA Party supporters in the House, and if it’s to be passed it does need support from the Democratic House minority.

“It makes sure that we don’t lurch from crisis to crisis,” according to Ryan, but once again the devil of the crisis is in the details for this deal actually allows federal agencies discretionary spending increases for fiscal year 2014 and fiscal year 2015 to a tune of $63 billion over that two year period with NO entitlement savings…as in NO cuts to the freebie and handouts for the ‘sponges’ who are the so catered to future Democratic voters…and affords provisions within this proposal for that very raising or initiating of fees…in other words ‘political speak’ for raising taxes.

Claiming any of those spending increases would be offset by spending reductions…reductions including a $6 billion cut to military pensions thus screwing our military yet again…and increasing ‘fees’ (translation: taxes) elsewhere in the budget amounting to a tune of about $85 billion over a decade…that equates to NOTHING but a joke that hopes to dull the pain of the automatic still in-effect ‘sequester’ spending cuts. So all this mumbo-jumbo simply means is that a miserly cut of roughly $20 billion in the nation’s $17 trillion debt would actually be made…chump change in the scope of things.

The only good thing I can see in this entire deal…and even that is NOT all it seems…is that federal government workers would be required to make larger contributions to their own pensions. But in doing that an increase in the form of a federal security ‘fee’…as in tax…will now be put in place that adds $5 to the cost of all round trip flights…translating into if you dare stick it to the government they will stick it right back to ‘We the People’…and as expected they’ll stick it by hitting us in the pocketbook…yet again.

And here’s a little bit of added happiness that hovers over the passing of this proposal…since this proposal as written does NOT include an extension of benefits for workers unemployed longer than 26 weeks…and I mean the truly unemployed who are out there looking for work NOT the ‘sponges’ …this means that up to 1.3 million more people possibly will be added to the existing 91.5 million people who have already dropped out of the labor force with yet another 800,000 more projected to become unemployed over the next few months.

So knowing all this I sure hope every single word of the Paul Ryan/Patty Murray budget proposal is read BEFORE it’s passed or it will come back to bite for much of its proposed savings actually would come near the end of its 10-year projections as just $11 billion would accrue in the first three years, an amount that will be far overshadowed by the $63 billion in new spending allowed this year and next.

Thankfully, a few Republican Senators took Economics 101 in school, paid attention, and actually understood its principals. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is one of them for as soon as the deal was announced he denounced said deal by saying, “This budget continues Washington’s irresponsible budgeting decisions by spending more money than the government takes in and placing additional financial burdens on everyday Americans.”

And so a vote on this proposal could be called in the Republican controlled House by tomorrow, and if passed the Democratic controlled Senate could vote on it late tomorrow afternoon or early next week. But is its passing a given…NO one knows for sure as some Democrats have now voiced opposition to any and all deals that dare to touch in any way federal government workers’ pension funds (including the afore mentioned having workers pay more into said pensions) without asking for even more sacrifices from wealthier Americans.

And back we go to ‘redistribution of wealth’…sigh…

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BUDGET DEAL SPARKS REVOLT

The Mount Vernon Assembly's emphatic No!
By Jeffrey Lord – 12.13.13

The Ryan-Murray Budget Deal. The Mount Vernon Assembly. On the surface, one issue has nothing to do with the other. In reality? They are tied together, the very existence of the first — and the stunning lack of credibility of Speaker John Boehner — explaining the reason for the second.
The budget deal, announced Tuesday night with much fanfare by House GOP Budget Chair Paul Ryan and his Senate Democrat counterpart Patty Murray, was instantly panned by conservative groups and, among others, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Mark Levin. Rush said that the House GOP was “so frightened of being blamed for another shutdown that they gave up parts of the sequester, which had been a hard line on spending.” Hannity said the deal was a perfect example of why Boehner should be removed as Speaker. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich wrote a piece for Newsmax that blistered the deal as follows:

You could tell how bad a deal it was when no one could describe it honestly.
The budget deal has tax increases that can't be called tax increases or no Republican could vote for them, so they are simply described in misleading language. But if you fly, you will pay a higher tax no matter what the politicians call it.
The sequester is broken, and spending will go up.
Because no Republican can vote for spending increases, there had to be offsetting out-year cuts. Of course, the immediate spending increases will be real and the out-year cuts will never happen.
It is sad that no one can tell the truth in plain language. The real disappointment isn't just that the budget deal is so bad that it can't be honestly described. The real disappointment is the lack of imagination and lack of new thinking and creativity.

Ryan did his best, venturing on to Levin’s show to defend his handiwork as well as taking to Greta Van Susteren’s Fox show in person.
The Wall Street Journal wrote up Ryan’s deal this way:

The best that can be said about the House-Senate budget deal announced late Tuesday is that it includes no tax increases, no new incentives for not working, and some modest entitlement reforms. Oh, and it will avoid another shutdown fiasco, assuming enough Republicans refuse to attempt suicide a second time.
The worst part of the two-year deal is that it breaks the 2011 Budget Control Act's discretionary spending caps for fiscal years 2014 and 2015. The deal breaks the caps by some $63 billion over the two years and then re-establishes the caps starting in 2016 where they are in current law at $1.016 trillion. Half of the increase will go to defense and half to the domestic accounts prized by Democrats.
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Breaking the caps is a victory for Senate Democrats and House Republican Appropriators like Oklahoma's Tom Cole, who will get more money to spend and will dodge another continuing resolution that doesn't allow them to set spending priorities. It would be nice to think they'll spend the money on such useful purposes as cancer or Alzheimer's research at the National Institutes of Health. But they will also get to dole out pork. The deal means overall federal spending will not decline in 2014 as it has the last two years.

The attacks by one conservative group after another on the budget deal brought this angry response (video here) from the GOP Speaker John Boehner, who snorted among other things that the attacks were “ridiculous,” Boehner oblivious to the damage he was doing to his own credibility.
Meanwhile?
Meanwhile over the weekend as the Ryan-Murray negotiations were reaching their climax with the national media panting outside the door, another meeting of potentially explosive significance was taking place on the grounds of George Washington’s Mount Vernon estate a few miles down the Potomac. Virtually unnoticed.
As described here at Red Millenial. Reporter Garrett Humbertson’s story began with the following headline, and bold print for emphasis in Humbertson’s reporting supplied by me:

State Legislators discuss Convention of States at Mount Vernon Assembly
Approval ratings for Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court are all at record lows, reflecting the public’s dissatisfaction with a runaway federal government. Many are concerned about Washington D.C.’s culture of corruption, entitlement programs on the path to bankruptcy, and a complicated tax code and bureaucracy which stifle both economic growth and liberty.
With this in mind, nearly one hundred state legislators from 32 different states gathered at George Washington’s home in Mount Vernon, Virginia, on Saturday. They met to discuss the possibility of a Convention of the States for the purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution, as described in Article V of the United States Constitution.
Fed up with the federal government’s overreach, state legislators say that such a convention would meet for the purpose of crafting constitutional amendments to curb the federal government’s abuses. Amendments that are being mentioned include Congressional term limits as well as limits on federal taxation and spending.

In other words, what these state legislators were about was finally grabbing the reins from the out-of-control federal government that the Ryan-Murray budget deal has come to symbolize.
The Mount Vernon Assembly, organized by Indiana state Sen. David Long and Wisconsin Rep. Chris Kapenga is, of course, is a direct outgrowth of this year’s bestselling book by talk radio host, constitutional lawyer and ex-Reagan aide Mark Levin. That would be The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic.
Wrote Mark’s publisher of the book, again with bold highlights supplied by me:

For a century, the Statists have steadfastly constructed a federal Leviathan, distorting and evading our constitutional system in pursuit of an all-powerful, ubiquitous central government. The result is an ongoing and growing assault on individual liberty, state sovereignty, and the social compact. Levin argues that if we cherish our American heritage, it is time to embrace a constitutional revival.
The delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia and the delegates to each state’s ratification convention foresaw a time when—despite their best efforts to forestall it—the Federal government might breach the Constitution’s limits and begin oppressing the people. Agencies such as the IRS and EPA and programs such as Obamacare demonstrate that the Framers’ fear was prescient. Therefore, the Framers provided two methods for amending the Constitution. The second was intended for our current circumstances—empowering the states to bypass Congress and call a convention for the purpose of amending the Constitution. Levin argues that we, the people, can avoid a perilous outcome by seeking recourse, using the method called for in the Constitution itself.
The Framers adopted ten constitutional amendments, called the Bill of Rights, that would preserve individual rights and state authority. Levin lays forth eleven specific prescriptions for restoring our founding principles, ones that are consistent with the Framers’ design. His proposals—such as term limits for members of Congress and Supreme Court justices and limits on federal taxing and spending—are pure common sense, ideas shared by many. They draw on the wisdom of the Founding Fathers—including James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and numerous lesser-known but crucially important men—in their content and in the method for applying them to the current state of the nation.
Now is the time for the American people to take the first step toward reclaiming what belongs to them. The task is daunting, but it is imperative if we are to be truly free.

Mark himself wrote this, again with bold print for emphasis mine:

I undertook this project not because I believe the Constitution, as originally structured, is outdated and outmoded, thereby requiring modernization through amendments, but because of the opposite-that is, the necessity and urgency of restoring constitutional republicanism and preserving the civil society from the growing authoritarianism of a federal Leviathan. This is not doomsaying or fearmongering but an acknowledgement of fact. The Statists have been successful in their century-long march to mangle and undo the social compact. To disclaim the Statists’ campaign and aims is to imprudently ignore the inventions and schemes hatched and promoted openly by their philosophers, experts, and academics, and the coercive application of their designs on the citizenry by a delusional governing elite. Their handiwork is omnipresent, for all to see — a centralized and consolidated government with a ubiquitous network of laws and rules actively suppressing individual initiative, self-interest, and success in the name of the greater good and on behalf of the larger community. Nearly all will be emasculated by it, including the inattentive, ambivalent, and disbelieving.

Now.
The Ryan-Murray budget deal is nothing if not the funding blueprint for “a centralized and consolidated government with a ubiquitous network of laws and rules actively suppressing individual initiative, self-interest, and success in the name of the greater good and on behalf of the larger community.”
Congressman Ryan, whom we like here, has said of the deal that “We've got to find a way to make divided government work” and that it doesn’t “violate a core principle.” Ryan seems oblivious to the notion that the entire deal says to other conservatives that the House Republican leadership is blissfully unaware that the very phrase “make divided government work” is synonymous with the furtherance of what Levin correctly calls a “post-constitutional America.” That one section after another in this budget deal is nothing more than a quest for a liberal utopia that does not and cannot exist.
Hence the importance of the Mount Vernon Assembly. Where discussions have now begun by state legislators on how to go about reining in Ryan and his House and Senate colleagues by among other things passing Constitutional amendments establishing term limits for Members of Congress, restoring the role of states in electing United States Senators, limiting taxing and spending, and giving States the authority to check Congress. Among other things.
There is more to come, with the Mount Vernon Assembly already planning a second meeting for next year.
But the real irony here is that someone as smart as Paul Ryan thinks he is “making divided government work” — at the same time the Mount Vernon Assembly has taken up Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments precisely because they believe budget deals like the one Ryan constructed are a pluperfect example of a post-constitutional America that not only doesn’t work but is heading the nation over the financial cliff.
There is more to come here, much more.
The train that is the Mount Vernon Assembly has left the station, with no turning back

http://spectator.org/articles/57091/...-sparks-revolt