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    to alipac "pjwishes" glad you are with us, you have other people here going through the same thing, so you are not alone.....we need to stick together in order to take our country back....what's happening is just not right!!!! again WELCOME. I wish you lots of luck!
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    I really empathize with all of you guys as I've been saying the same thing for years.

    I believe the main problem we have is the media. The MSM controls the information. And as long as they control that, they control how and what the masses think. They basically chose the candidates thay "they" want by focusing on a chosen few, to the exclusion of others. You keep playing
    that same record over and over and over again, the public is going to believe that's all that is out there.

    And I agree about McCain - his campaign was dead in the water. I'm still not absolutely certain what happened but it seemed to begin when the media kept focusing on Romney's religious background. Romney was in the lead at that time. And if I remember correctly, Tancredo had endorsed Romney because he felt confident about Romney's promise to combat illegal immigration. That's all you need to do - just plant a seed of doubt about a person, and then keep repeating it. It is indeed a form of brainwashing the public.

    So as I see it, the first battle we need to win is the information battle. We need to educate the masses on what they are NOT being told by the MSM. I would suggest checking out www.campaignforliberty.com. I've told other Alipacers about this site as well. They have over 60,000 people signed up thus far, and they appear to have a good plan in place to help educate the public about all sorts of issues.

    From the website:

    The Campaign for Liberty will carry out its mission through the following activities:

    1. Promoting candidates for public office who share our commitment to freedom.

    2. Gaining a foothold in political life at every level of government by expanding our precinct leader program.

    3. Educating the electorate and lobbying against harmful or unconstitutional legislation.

    4. Encouraging the formation of discussion groups and book clubs at the local level to help people learn more about our ideas.

    5. Establishing a speakers bureau to give presentations around the country about the great principles we champion.

    6. Developing materials for homeschooling families, to help them educate their children in history, sound economics, and related fields.

    7. Featuring written as well as video commentaries on the news and issues of the day.


    Check it out: http://www.campaignforliberty.com

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    I am telling you. Get wise on the situation. Since the EU, Europe has been overrun with third world immigrants --- the banking and financial establishments initiated this. What do you think is happening here in America? Who owns the banking/financial institutions. Who has the ear and influence to squeeze the president? Who benefits the most from a NON-homogenous America?

    McCain is FIRMLY a bought pawn, same with Obama.


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    The two nuckleheads will continue to finish the job bush butt has started.
    Yes it is sick, and to me it looks like the AMERICAN people who are going to vote for these wannabees, it confuses me, you know I am not a smart cookie but, I can tell a jack of azzz, a mile away. They are only hearing half of what these nuckleheads are saying, do they really KNOW our tax dollars go to these people who are collecting all the freebies, they can get there hands on??

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    Chuck Baldwin www.baldwin2008.com

    VOTE FOR CHUCK BALDWIN.
    I have brought this up many times and what I see is everyone goes right back to talking about McCain and Obama on this website. If you want things different then vote different. Let's send the message we don't want either one of them or we will get more of the same . Vote for Chuck Baldwin or be ready to battle this till american citizens are a minority in this country, and we lose it all, Or Don't vote at all, but don't vote for Obama or McCain. We will just have more of the same with McCain or even worse with Obama. He will end exactly why most of us come to this website for. Wouldn't that be nice? Then we could pick another atrosity to fight.
    go to www.constitutionparty.com
    and look under newsroom and then current issues
    look at his if I were president speech
    He is a current candidate for the 2008 election for president
    Go there or we get what we deserve.
    Even if he isn't your ideal. It will send a powerful message if we don't vote democratic or republican. Do we want 4 more years of politics as usual or do you want your country back.
    now if you don't at least go there and check him out
    then something is wrong with your attention span
    This is a better choice and if we vote for him It WILL send a message to our government.
    We aren't going to take being ignored anymore.
    This is our guy for real change Back to the constitution and bill of rights. Obama doesn't say what kind of change he stands for McCain could care less how we feel. That's obvious with his HisPandering to LaRaza. I tell you Chuck spells it out what he will do. He will get this country back on her feet.
    I emailed Ron Paul and asked him to come out publicaly to support Chuck Baldwin as Chuck baldwin came out and supported Ron Paul when he was running koobster ,We have till November to get him out there Call tv shows shows to get him airtime like Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck
    Call radio talk shows . He has appeared on the terry anderson show and
    michael savage's show. If you know of any other talk shows to contact go for it. I emailed both of them and it worked to get him on there.
    How about others? Got any ideas who is your favorite talk guy or gal.
    Anybody else who you think would be a good candidate.
    All I know is we can't go McCain or Obama.

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    AmericanGal4Ever,

    Exactly, we need to settle this once and for all.

    Alipacers aren't voting for either of the two slime buckets.
    We know what they are all about, we've debated it here for almost a year.
    Anything these traitors do or say shouldn't suprise us, when knew they were stooges before they made it this far, and they are still stooges and obviously this whole ideal of one of these two clowns being president has to be a setup.

    We can all agree these two candidates are totally against what we and the majority of the American People want and stand for. With that said, why vote for a traitor. All traitors lead to the same road of destruction, I won't be a part of it. SO....



    Obviously the only thing we can do to battle against them and try to push them out of the way is to have our own nominee or nominee's.
    We need to talk more about Chuck Baldwin and how giddy we would be if his policies are instituted, that will inspire others to get on the wagon with us. Bama might be some peoples hope but Chuck Balwin is my hope. Just as I voted for Mr. Badnarik (constitution party) in 2004, I will vote for Chuck Baldwin.

    I'll be so happy when Chuck Baldwin wins, this guy is going to send people to jail for treason, derilection of duty and aiding criminal aliens.

    He is going to LOCK DOWN THE BORDER and JAIL EMPLOYERS and VERY SOON AFTER WE WILL SEE OUR TAXES AND HEALTHCARE BILLS GO DOWN because illegals won't be sopping up the services with their child births every year.

    THE ILLEGALS WON"T BE WORKING HERE, so they won't be able to abuse the tax system by claiming 9 DEPENDENTS, when they are tweenty years old.

    I'll be glad when CHUCK BALDWIN IS THE PRESIDENT and when he is it won't be long after, THE EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO JAIL IF THEY HIRE ILLEGALS, which means in a few months MY PAYCHECK WILL BE GOING UP AGAIN INSTEAD OF DOWN.

    When Chuck Baldwin is elected, THOSE ANCHOR BABIES ARE HISTORY, NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES.......GOODBYE!

    Just think when Chuck Baldwin gets in, THE TERRORIST WON"T BE COMING IN OVER THE BORDER AT WILL ANYMORE, THIS WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, JUST BY ELIMINATING THE ILLEGALS THAT WOULD BE HERE KILLING INNOCENT AMERICANS. AN INSTANT SAVING OF AMERICAN LIVES. NO MORE AMERICAN HUMAN SACRIFICES FOR MEXICO AND GLOBAL CORPORATIONS SAKE. NO TERRORIST MEXICANs OR AL QAIDA. LETS SHUT IT ALL DOWN! THATS WHAT CHUCK BALDWIN WILL DO!

    JUST THINK, when CHUCK BALDWIN WINS, WE ALL WIN, THE DEFICITS ARE A REAL PRIORITY, not just something for the bankers to keep refinancing to keep making billions at our expense. AS AMERICANS MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE ILLEGALS HAVE LEFT, THE MONEY CAN BE INVESTED AND SPENT HERE on NEW American Products that Americans can produce and we will support. Americans DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE GLOBAL TRAITOR CORPORATIONS ANYMORE. WE NEED INDUSTRY THATS GOOD FOR AMERICA AND AMERICANS, NOT SELLOUTS.

    DID CHUCK BALDWIN SAY SCREW THE FEDERAL RESERVE? GOOD, WE CAN SEE EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT TALKS ABOUT IS FINANCING, AND OF COURSE IT ALL GOES THROUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE. THEY MAKE BILLIONS TIME AND TIME AGAIN OFF OUR MISERY, SELLING US OUR OWN MISERY AND THEN PROFITING ON IT TIME AFTER TIME. GOOD RIDDENCE!

    CHUCK BALDWIN SAYS....LETS SPEAK ENGLISH ALL ACROSS THIS GREAT LAND OF AMERICA. HE'LL MAKE IT THE OFFICIAL ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND THEN THOSE ILLEGALS WILL STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. TALK TO CHUCK, HE KNOWS WHY PRO ILLEGAL GROUPS DON'T WANT ENGLISH AS THE OFFICIAL SPOKEN LANGUAGE, IT HELPS HIDE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, THATS WHY!



    Sounds to me as if CHUCK BALDWIN IS A REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT! HE BEATS THE SOCKS OFF McCAIN'T and BAMA! HANDS DOWN! NO CONTEST!


    ARE YOUR POLITICIANS SELLING OUT YOU & YOUR COUNTRY?
    ISN'T IT TIME YOU TALK TO CHUCK? VOTE FOR CHUCK!


    WE HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT, WE CAN'T DEPEND ON THE CORRUPT MSM, THEY ARE BOUGHT OFF AS WE ALL KNOW. WE HAVE ALOT TO DO IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME!
    Unless we get those criminals & make them pay for what they have done to our country and the lawlessness they have sponsored, we are just another Mexico ourselves!

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    I wouldnt rule out some form of "subliminal brainwashing" by the MSM or some food product fed to unsuspecting Americans that is leading us to self destruct a great nation.

    Only a few months ago, Americans hated John McCain and every single thing he stood for. Americans hated Osama binLaden and his terrorists groups for killing thousands of innocent people all in the sake of their "allah", and we have, IMO, a Muslim on the presidental ballot.

    BOTH OF THESE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES are traitors and are against everything that Americans want for our country. I dont beieve that ANY SANE AMERICAN WOULD VOTE FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE BRAINLESS IDIOTS!

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF US?

    We all need to pray for America and find the strength to keep us as the great nation we always were; "ONE NATION, UNDER GOD"....
    It is not so much what is wrong with all of us, but what MSM and the corporations are doing. I think there has been tampering at the polls, brainwashing by MSM and big corporations funding these candidates. They are NOT the American people's candidates, they are big businesses candidates. The corporate elites have found a way to roll right over us and they are doing it. We have to stay as mad as hell and remain dedicated NOT TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! To cow down now would be the downfall of our country, these corporations are all about money and cannot see past the dollar signs.

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    Chuck Baldwin sounds better and better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Some how we have two candidates that have risen from the bottom of the barrel...I've never in my worst nighmares thought we would end up with some one worse than Bush...The pieces of the puzzle doesn't fit how these two legitimately became our two candidates for president??

    I know we have an evil force in the government working against us. I've heard about these private anti American elitist organizations that most likely picked who our next president is going to be. I just hate to think our elections are fixed...But it sure looks that way.
    We are controlled by the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commision and the CFR...but you would think even THEY could come up with candidates who are more appealing! I agree with you completely...these two are the WORST candidates on the planet! These two are actually going to make Bush look good! Unbelievable! The conservative voters have been disenfranchised and our rights have been stripped from us. We have NO candidate.

    I just think we're on the fast track to socialism, the re-distribution of wealth, the population transfer from third world countries, the death of capitalism, and "SOCIAL JUSTICE" for all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanMe
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Some how we have two candidates that have risen from the bottom of the barrel...I've never in my worst nighmares thought we would end up with some one worse than Bush...The pieces of the puzzle doesn't fit how these two legitimately became our two candidates for president??

    I know we have an evil force in the government working against us. I've heard about these private anti American elitist organizations that most likely picked who our next president is going to be. I just hate to think our elections are fixed...But it sure looks that way.
    We are controlled by the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commision and the CFR...but you would think even THEY could come up with candidates who are more appealing! I agree with you completely...these two are the WORST candidates on the planet! These two are actually going to make Bush look good! Unbelievable! The conservative voters have been disenfranchised and our rights have been stripped from us. We have NO candidate.

    I just think we're on the fast track to socialism, the re-distribution of wealth, the population transfer from third world countries, the death of capialism, and "SOCIAL JUSTICE" for all!

    AmericanMe, How true what you said, "These two are actually going to make Bush look good." I want to cry!

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