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04-17-2014, 06:20 PM #1Senior Member
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After Harry Reid’s Threats Bundy Ranch Now Surrounded by Heavily Armed Guards as Talk of Federal Raid Picks Up
Posted on Thursday, April 17th, 2014 at 4:52 pm.
by: Benjamin Franklin
Earlier we published news about a Sheriff claiming a massive federal raid on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada is imminent. The Sheriff even says the raid could possibly include violence as the fed was not likely to initiate a scenario it is not prepared to win. Especially not after the humiliating defeat suffered by the BLM as it was forced to retreat last Saturday.
The Bundy Ranch will not be caught off guard, though, as news reports make it clear the property is now prepared with heavily armed security.
Local rancher Cliven Bundy may have his cattle back, but his supporters say they are still preparing for an imminent threat.Meanwhile, we’re seeing reports the BLM has NOT returned all of Bundy’s cattle, even though they said this would happen. Bundy is still missing roughly 100 of his cattle and the BLM has yet to explain where the cattle are.
Militia groups from all over the country say they are flocking to the Bundy ranch to protect the family from a feared federal government raid.
The Bureau of Land Management allowed Bundy to release his cattle Saturday, after they felt threatened.
Bundy now has a whole contingent of armed guards surrounding him 24 hours a day.
“They’re just there, trying to make sure something crazy doesn’t happen to him,” Bundy’s son Ammon Bundy said.
His security detail and family feel he is someone to be protected because of what the federal government could do.
“There were snipers on the hills and armed guards and you know, military forces with cameras all over.” Ammon Bundy said.
Cliven Bundy fears that the government could gather up again because they never reached a formal deal.
He is also trying to determine whether federal agents damaged any of his cattle before they released them.
The BLM only allowed the family to open up the gate of the pen where the animals were being held because officers were afraid of violence. As of now, no one has cleared him to take back his cattle for good.
Taking the stage to address supporters Monday, Bundy was quickly obscured behind his guards. The detail told 8 News NOW they are now patrolling the area 24 hours a day looking for federal snipers.
“You never know, you never know,” Ammon Bundy said.
Senator Harry Reid, who has major interests in nearby land as he negotiates with the Chinese to develop green energy on Nevada soil, has created even more tension by publicly declaring the feds will be back. The fed is indeed
looking more and more likely to return, but the Bundy Ranch is more and more likely to be much better prepared.
At this point an armed fed initiated raid could prove incredibly dangerous and would put numerous American lives at risk. Time will tell if the government is willing to provoke the situation into one of possible violence and unnecessary lethal action.
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04-17-2014, 06:50 PM #2
Reid: Bundy Supporters Are “Domestic Terrorists”
April 17, 2014 1:57 PMSupporters of Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy have been called domestic terrorists by Senator Harry Reid

(LAS VEGAS, KXNT)–Supporters of Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy have been called domestic terrorists by Senator Harry Reid.
He made the comments during an appearance at a Review-Journal event, and repeated them, saying “what happened there was domestic terrorism’
The government says Bundy owes more than a million dollars in grazing fees and fines stemming from a 20-year dispute over trespass cattle. After obtaining court orders and beginning a roundup of cattle more than a week ago, BLM backed down, called off the roundup, and returned the cattle, after armed supporters of Bundy converged on the area.
Reid says Bundy is a law breaker. He says he will not second-guess the BLM decision to call off its round-up under a threat of potential violence, but that he says Bundy is wrong.
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The vilification of the Bundy family is in full force now by the mainstream media who are trying to paint Bundy as a law breaker, tax evader and label him as part of the Sovereign Citizen Movement, a hot button label that effectively puts a bounty on his head as a terrorist as far as law enforcement is concerned.
What are the legal issues here? How do we get control of bureaucracies like the #BLM that can put anyone out of business with their regulations and are willing to use lethal force against those who don't follow their orders?
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Bundy Ranch Saga Helps Expose Communist Chinese Land Grab
Just the tip of the iceberg?
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Harry Reid: Don't worry I'm working with the Chinese Govt to get rid of them Right Wing Ranchers...

Harry Reid: Don't worry I'm working with the Chinese Govt to get rid of them Right Wing Ranchers...
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They don’t call him Dirty Harry for nothing. The Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior...Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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Hey #BundyRanch , Crimes against humanity charges should be brought up against @BarackObama & @SenatorReid & The #BLM for the murdering of Cattle!

Graphic Photos Show What The BLM Really Did To Bundy's Cows
And this was supposedly done to save animals...
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Graphic Photos Show What The BLM Really Did To Bundy’s Cows
And this was supposedly done to save animals...
B. CHRISTOPHER AGEE — APRIL 17, 2014

According to several reports breaking on social media Wednesday, federal agents targeting the Bundy Ranch in Clark County, Nev. did much more than merely herd hundreds of cows away from the site prior to backing down from their position Saturday. The following graphic images are being distributed by the Bundy Ranch as proof that multiple head of cattle were slaughtered, apparently under the direction of federal Bureau of Land Management officers.

Some close-up shots reportedly reveal the entrance point of wounds that took down the family’s livestock.

The photos show the dead and decaying cattle, offering little room for speculation beyond the assumption that BLM agents were complicit in their deaths.

With elected officials, including Democrat Sen. Harry Reid, declaring the standoff is “not over,” many worry the government’s apparent predilection for violence could easily spill over to include human targets.

Many outraged commenters have pointed out the glaring hypocrisy of leftist animal rights groups who, at this point, have remained largely silent regarding allegations of cattle mistreatment on the ranch by federal forces.

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BLM: We are Worried Cliven Bundy Might Have Prescriptive Rights & He Might Use that Defense in Court
Ben Swann April 16, 2014
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In this ongoing story surrounding cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, there are a series of questions media has ignored. For instance, in the 20 years Bundy hasn't been paying his fees, why hasn't he been taken to court? Why this year, spend nearly $1,000,000 of taxpayer money to round up 400 cattle that ultimately have to be returned? Why didn't the BLM just place a lien on the cattle rather than attempting to take them by force and then auction them off? The Bureau of Land Management has suffered a huge black eye this week because of their response to the Bundy situation. Perhaps though, there is a reason the BLM chose force over the courts.
In an exclusive interview with Benswann.com, Montana cattle rancher Todd Devlin says the BLM is now considering new ways of dealing with the Cliven Bundy situation. Devlin is not just a Montana cattle rancher, but is also a County Commissioner in Prairie County Montana. He has also worked with the Department of Interior, having taught workshops for the agency in the past. Monday, Devlin reached out to his contacts in the Department of the Interior to find out why the Bureau of Land Management has refused to work with Bundy rather than simply attempting to run over him.
Among the questions Devlin asked of the BLM, "Is it possible that this guy (Cliven Bundy) has prescriptive rights?" The response from top officials at the BLM, "We are worried that he might, and he might use that defense."
So what exactly are prescriptive rights? Prescriptive right to property is an easement that gives some one the right to use land owned by someone else for a particular purpose. An example is using a path through Party A's land to get to your land; a prescriptive easement is allowed which gives the user the right to get to his land through A's property.
In most states, if a trespass or use of land occurs regularly for at least 5 years without the "owner" of the land taking legal action, prescriptive rights come into play. Because Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees to the BLM in 1993, but continued to use the land for over 20 years, it is possible he now has prescriptive rights to the land. That might explain why the BLM has not taken this issue to court and never bothered to file a lien against the cattle.
Granted, there have been court actions over the years. In 1998, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering him to remove his cattle from the federal lands. He lost an appeal to the San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Yet, the "trespass cattle" remained on the BLM land. In fact, it took until August of 2013 for a court order to be issued saying Bundy had 45 days to remove his cattle from federal land. 15 years went by from the time of the last court case over the cattle until the BLM attempted to remove the livestock.
Of course, Bundy has not made the claim that he will not pay the fees, he simply says he will not pay those fees to the BLM because he doesn't recognize federal authority over the land. Bundy has said that in the past that he would pay fees to Clarke County, Nevada, though Clarke County has refused to accept them. The BLM has insisted that Bundy owes $1.1 million dollars in grazing fees for his trespass cattle.
"The actual number is probably around $200,000. The $1.1 million claimed by the BLM is probably mostly interest and penalties for trespass cattle." says Devlin, who goes on to say that it is unlikely that Clarke County would be able to collect those penalties.
When Devlin reached out to the BLM, he suggested that the federal agency just allow Bundy to pay the fees to the county rather than continuing with these aggressive tactics to confiscate his cattle.
"Why don't you just let him pay them there (Clarke County)? I got a call back from the liaison saying 'Yes, pursue it.'" Devlin reached out to contacts in Nevada to get that process moving forward. If that were to happen, Clarke County could collect the grazing fees and if it desired to do so could hand those fees over to the BLM.
Finally, Devlin says instead of allowing the situation with Bundy's cattle to grow completely out of control, the BLM could have simply placed a lien on the cattle in the first place. Of course, that lien might have been rejected in court if Bundy were able to demonstrate those prescriptive rights. Then again, the courts so far have sided with the government; therefore, it is even more baffling why the lien wasn't placed on the livestock.
Days after the BLM has claimed they will stand down, they are now reportedly considering a lien on the cattle,
"I asked why you didn't put a lien against the cattle?" Devlin asked the BLM. "They hadn't thought about that, but they are considering it now."
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Harry Reid’s View on Terrorists Explained in One CartoonBy Kira Davis
21 hours ago
Political cartoonist A.F. Branco has perfectly captured Harry Reid’s sad views on what really constitutes a terrorist.

As an American who believes vehemently in our Constitution, free speech and free political discourse I find Reid’s comments both ridiculous and hurtful.
Do you think its a coincidence that Reid wants to sell Cliven Bundy’s land to the Chinese and is simultaneously labeling those whom have come to the rancher’s defense “terrorists”?
H/T Comically Incorrect
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Harry Reid’s Facebook Page Just Got Obliterated…
This is generally what happens when you walk over Americans' freedom...
B. CHRISTOPHER AGEE — APRIL 17, 2014

Despite reported efforts to silence conservative viewpoints, social media sites like Facebook remain the most accessible forum through which the public can express its views. Developments regarding the Bundy Ranch situation, for instance, have been shared extensively by users despite the fact that many mainstream media sources have largely ignored the story.
Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, who some reports suggest has a financial interest in the Bureau of Land Management’s action against the Bundys, recently indicated that the situation is “not over,” leading many to prepare for a federal raid on the historic ranch. In response to the announcement, patriots on Facebook proved they are not only capable of using the site to spread important news; they also provide plenty of pointed criticism of those they feel deserve it.
Reid’s official Facebook page, filled with the traditional fare – i.e., self-congratulatory fluff – of a career politico, has been bombarded by detractors over the past few days. While such divisive candidates are always subject to ridicule, the level of disdain shown recently in regard to the Bundy Ranch situation provides a telling insight into the prevailing public sentiment.
Taking just one recent Reid post as a case in point, the overwhelming majority of hundreds of comments that followed are from unmistakably outraged citizens. Many concede that Facebook is about the only forum through which their concerns will find an audience.
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Some of the comments offer a pithy take on Reid’s policies:
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Others are decidedly more in-depth analyses:
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Many of the responses include predictions for his political future – along with others who seem to put personal aspirations above their sworn oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution.
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Try as he might to steer the conversation away from the continuing controversy, it is clear that a significant group of advocates is determined to hold him accountable for his position. The backlash was not contained to Facebook. Twitter has been inundated with similarly scathing comments like this one:
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