Thread: California, Arizona southwestern states belong to mexico?

Mexico never owned the southwestern states. These states where inhabited by the indians tribes, until the spanish conquered them, such as murdered them, and then stold the land. They took the land after they murdered these indians. The spanish had second dibs then they gave the land to their mestizos, mexican children, who had third dibs and then lost the land to American colonists. mexicans did NOT exsist before the spanish came. mexican history, is only 500 years old. The native tribes of what is now called mexico, did not live on what is now the southwest United States, there were American Indian tribes already settled on the southwestern states, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, belongs to the Indian tribes, not the mexicans.

Mestizos have lied over the years from relation to relation, that they have "RIGHTS" to this land of the southwest, and that the white people, Europeans stold this land. Their claims to the southwest are an insult to the AMERICAN indians. the American indians were on the land first, for thousands of years even before their was even a mexican.

The treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed Feb 2, 1848, by the American diplomate Nicholas Trist, ended the war, and gave US undisputed control of Texas, established the US mexican border of the rio grande river, and ceded to the US California, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Colorado, Arizona, New mexico, Wyoming. Which all belong to the indian tribes, not anyone else. In return mexico recieved $15,000,000.00 million dollars for the land that was stolden from the indians, in which mexico murdered the indians. Along with the Europeans who also murdered the indians for this land. The 800,000 mexicans living in those areas were granted the same rights as the USA citizens. Violence and discrimination forced many of these mexicans off their land, which belongs to the indians, and when the border patrol was created, mexicans, were allowed freely move between the USA and mexico.


K BSTER


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... And don't forget that the $15,000,000.00 that the U.S. Government paid out to Mexico were 1848 dollars!

Indian tribes who lived in the states of the southwest.

Jicarilla an apache people currently living in new mexico
Mescalero Native American tribe of southcentral new mexico
Lipan indians southwestern new mexico, southeastern Arizona
Kiowa indians lived in the plains of west Texas, and Oklahoma, and eastern New mexico until the arrival of the Europeans
Western Apache most of eastern Arizona which includes the white mountains


The Apache were located in the southwest Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas.


www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/culture/northamerica/apache.html

www.mle.matsuk12.us/america-natives/sw/sw.html


The southwest Native Americans came from the states of arizona, New mexico, Southern Colorado, and the northern part of mexico. Most of the land is covered by cactus. Some tribes spoke their own language, had their own religious customs, and laws followed. Most of the southwest Native Americans, became farmers and lived in villiages.

The Apache, Hopi, Navajo, and Zuni tribes of the southwest came from the states of Arizona, New mexico, Southern Colorado, and the northern parts of mexico. Most of the land is desert covered in cactus.

www.nativeamericans.com/southwestTradition.htm

So now with the real information, that the indians where her long before the mexicans came here.
The land here actually belongs to the indians.

I wish they would get the real facts, the real history, but, they want their race to be number 1 and that white people or the Europeans owe the mexicans. because this land was stolden, when it was bought for 15 million dollars, all along it was stolden from the indians, by the mexicans.

Originally Posted by MarkM

... And don't forget that the $15,000,000.00 that the U.S. Government paid out to Mexico were 1848 dollars!

Yes and all the other money now they are getting while here, DEMANDING we GIVE to them, becasue the Europeans owe them.

Technically, Mexico is already attacking us, sending millions illegally here to take jobs and, if I am not mistaken, providing the second largest inflow of money behind their creaking oil industry. It might be number one by now. We need our National Guard on the borders, not fighting in foreign countries.

WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE BORDER? CLOSE THEM DOWN, TOTALLY

What the Mexican government has perpetrated within the United States is nothing short of a silent invasion and occupation of the USA. It has nothing to do "immigration" legal OR illegal.

The Mexican government has basically ordered their poorest population to go to the USA illegally, steal jobs from Americans and send remittances back "home" to Mexico. Untaxed American dollars have been pouring into the Mexican economy to the tune of BILLIONS per year as a result.

In the meantime, the Mexican government has been busy establishing MEXICAN CONSULATES ALL over the USA, Alaska and Hawaii included, to aid and abet their illegal population here right under the noses of the American people and our government. I believe there are around 72 Mexican Consulates in the USA at this time. These "consulates," more like military Mexican outposts built for the colonization of the USA by Mexico, need to be investigated and closed down.

Mexico has infiltrated our political arenas with their agents, as well as our educational system with their text books, teachers and Marxist teachings, to help facilitate the erosion of American culture, language, laws and sovereignty. This has ALL been done OUT IN THE OPEN with the blessings of OUR government!! The degradation of the "American Dream" and way of life is solely the outcome of the Mexican government's free reign within the USA to do and say as they please within our borders.

Originally Posted by MarkM

... And don't forget that the $15,000,000.00 that the U.S. Government paid out to Mexico were 1848 dollars!

Which translates to about $313 million by today's standards.

The Mexican people and their government are professional EXTORTIONISTS!

Originally Posted by koobster

The 800,000 mexicans living in those areas were granted the same rights as the USA citizens.

You have your number wrong, there were only 8000 Mexicans living in the Southwest.